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Old March 20th, 2010, 12:04 PM   #921
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When they start the Chelsea-Hackney line?
Not before Crossrail 1 is completed, if at all... I reckon 2020 at the earliest
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Old March 21st, 2010, 01:41 AM   #922
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They are thinking about construct new lines?
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Old March 21st, 2010, 03:02 AM   #923
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They are thinking about construct new lines?
They are constructing a new line... Crossrail.
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Old March 21st, 2010, 03:31 AM   #924
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Reclaimed Canary Wharf and Manchester are similar - pointless on the dirty soil.
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Old March 21st, 2010, 03:56 AM   #925
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Reclaimed Canary Wharf and Manchester are similar - pointless on the dirty soil.
Sorry I don't follow. Similar in what way? What is pointless?
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Old March 21st, 2010, 11:31 AM   #926
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Sorry I don't follow. Similar in what way? What is pointless?
Don't worry about it... Judging from his other posts, he is insane. Ignore.
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Old March 21st, 2010, 11:48 AM   #927
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Don't worry about it... Judging from his other posts, he is insane. Ignore.
As a mental health nurse, I'm sorry to say I agree. I hope he/she gets the help they need soon.
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Old March 21st, 2010, 02:31 PM   #928
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They are constructing a new line... Crossrail.
That's not really "subway". I'm talking about London Underground...
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Old March 21st, 2010, 06:22 PM   #929
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That's not really "subway". I'm talking about London Underground...
Eh? Calm down! Crossrail may not be part of the London Underground network, but it is an underground railway similar to a tube line. And will no doubt appear on Underground maps and be used by passengers as though it were part of the Underground network.

As for a new London Underground line... none planned (for the near future) as far as I'm aware. There are DLR extensions planned, including one which could go quite a way through central London all underground (Bank to Victoria) and then there's Crossrail, Thameslink, Hackney-Chelsea, ELR extension...
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 12:37 AM   #930
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This, to me, does entail a few questions- Will we see any more London Underground lines? Or will they now all be Crossrail? In the future, will Cross rail replace the current tube lines? Central seems pretty well served, do we need any more lines/station in the Central Area (WestEnd, Westminster and City)? Will Trams now be the better option?
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 01:38 AM   #931
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That's not really "subway". I'm talking about London Underground...
Crossrail will run straight through Central London with 24tph in the peaks, and 240m trains, sounds pretty much like a metro to me.

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This, to me, does entail a few questions- Will we see any more London Underground lines? Or will they now all be Crossrail? In the future, will Cross rail replace the current tube lines? Central seems pretty well served, do we need any more lines/station in the Central Area (WestEnd, Westminster and City)? Will Trams now be the better option?
Crossrail will be integrated with the Tube but is not intended to replace any of it, much like the RER and the Metro in Paris.

As to whether or not there will be more Tube lines it is hard to say. Currently it is unclear whether the future Chelsea-Hackney line will be a more of a Tube line or a Crossrail line. Personally I think it should be somehwere in between, i.e. the high frequency (30tph and over) and segregation of a tube line but with Crossrail-size loading guage. There are also numerous proposals to extend the Victoria, Bakerloo and Charing Cross branch of the Northern line further into South London

I can't think of any part of Central London that needs to be better served, but I can think of several places in Zone 2 that do.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 01:41 AM   #932
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Another video of the new Victoria line trains, this time amply demonstrating that the new trains aren't any quieter than the current trains.

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Old March 22nd, 2010, 11:48 AM   #933
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I can't think of any part of Central London that needs to be better served, but I can think of several places in Zone 2 that do.
I certainly agree that Zone 2 could be better served by the tube, especially in South London.

Having said that, I think there is still potential for new lines/stations in Central London even after CR 1 & (hopefully) 2. Much of the system is close to or at full capacity, and projections suggest that the system is set to get busier.

For example, I once worked near Russell Square and I remember how congested that station and the trains were at rush hour. I also once worked near the intersection of Marsham St. and Horseferry Road and could really have done with a tube station in the general vicinity instead of a long foot slog to Victoria. In addition I once lived in Bloomsbury and could have done with a station nearby, maybe on the Metropolitan/Circle.

There have been plans for tube lines in the past in Central London which have never come to fruition: one would have run East-West from Hammersmith to Olympia, High St. Kensington, Albert Hall, Hyde Park Corner and on to Charing Cross where it would have continued on to the city on the same alignment as the proposed extension of the DLR. I wonder if the DLR would have sufficient capacity to run through Central London...

The original Chelsey-Hackney line as I understand, would've run East from Vic to that previously alluded station at the Marsham/Horseferry intersection, on to Waterloo before swinging north to Aldwych and Holborn, then East to Farringdon and Old Street before continuing into North East London. I think the route changed as commuter patterns changed, but bits of this route could still be useful additions to the network. I think the Cross London Tram would have catered for at least some similar journeys between Holborn and Waterloo.

Ah well, one can dream...
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 08:36 PM   #934
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Old March 24th, 2010, 02:06 AM   #935
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Why not a new circle line in Zone 2?
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Old March 24th, 2010, 06:16 AM   #936
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Why not a new circle line in Zone 2?
This is London Overground.
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Old March 25th, 2010, 11:48 AM   #937
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Nice pictures -


London Underground is supposed to be the best transport system on the globe - it must work smooth as far as there is no ugly wish to stem it working normal.
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Old March 25th, 2010, 03:14 PM   #938
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I remember Bank Station has a large gap between the train and platform!


London Underground is an art.

Still the best, compared to the other transit system around the world, it is the most comprehensive to me.
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Old March 25th, 2010, 09:58 PM   #939
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Old March 26th, 2010, 10:36 PM   #940
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I remember Bank Station has a large gap between the train and platform!


London Underground is an art.

Still the best, compared to the other transit system around the world, it is the most comprehensive to me.
This is on the Central Line platforms and it's because the there is quite a curve in that part of the tunnel.
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