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Old April 10th, 2010, 03:30 AM   #1021
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I find it unattractive and I don't see a problem expressing my opinion on that just as I don't have a problem with anyone expressing their opinion on the matters relating to London Underground even if I disagree with their point of view.
So you'd prefer it if everwhere had no character or spirit? Okay.

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You clearly haven't been there recently then! Though in defence of the station it is undergoing a VERY VERY VERY slow refurbishment. Will look nice once they eventually finish it. Hopefully before I leave this country in 10 months time. Would be ironic actually as the refurb started when I first arrived about 3 years ago.
The fifites subterrenean section of the station is grotty, but the original part is spacious and attractive.

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Old April 10th, 2010, 03:50 AM   #1022
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So you'd prefer it if everwhere had no character or spirit? Okay.
Did I say that? Show me.

The stations, above all, must be functional, spacious, comfortable and have appropriate facilities. The presence of "character" is of no importance to me or most commuters who use it daily.

This is why stations of the new part of Jubilee line (as well as some other new/reconstructed stations) are the best ones. Even in visual terms they look much more apealing and cosy than the old ones with "character". The latter being just my personal perception which I'm not trying to show as a "truth".
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Old April 10th, 2010, 11:41 AM   #1023
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The fifites subterrenean section of the station is grotty, but the original part is spacious and attractive.

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Notting Hill Gate is my local station and I can assure you it doesn't look anything like that at present which was the point of my post.

Whilst of course the structure is impressive, for anyone who might have visited the station for the first time in the last 6-12 months (since they started the refurb of the upper platforms) you would think it is a worn out grotty station.

I reckon it will be one of the better looking stations if ever they finish the refurb. Provided of course they do a good clean once they have finisged. I have noticed at other stations they do a refurb and by the time they finish the first parts are already filthy and they don't do a final spit and polish.
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Old April 11th, 2010, 02:37 AM   #1024
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Did I say that? Show me.
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It isn't that you think "character" and "spirit" is unattractive
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I find it unattractive and I don't see a problem expressing my opinion on that just as I don't have a problem with anyone expressing their opinion on the matters relating to London Underground even if I disagree with their point of view.
You think character and spirit is unattractive, therefore, by extension, you don't think anywhere should have it.

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The stations, above all, must be functional, spacious, comfortable and have appropriate facilities. The presence of "character" is of no importance to me or most commuters who use it daily.
Yes, and the stations in London which have "character" are also functional as well. The "character" has no bearing on the functionality of the station.

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The stations, above all, must be functional, spacious, comfortable and have appropriate facilities. The presence of "character" is of no importance to me or most commuters who use it daily.

This is why stations of the new part of Jubilee line (as well as some other new/reconstructed stations) are the best ones. Even in visual terms they look much more apealing and cosy than the old ones with "character". The latter being just my personal perception which I'm not trying to show as a "truth".
The stations on the Jubilee line are attractive, I agree, but they are not the only attractive stations on LU. Attractiveness, from a forumers viewpoint, is a visual thing and has little to do with the purpose of the object at hand. I therefore disagree that it has anything to do with the functionality. The stations on most Chinese metros are unattractive to me, and they are functional.

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Notting Hill Gate is my local station and I can assure you it doesn't look anything like that at present which was the point of my post.

Whilst of course the structure is impressive, for anyone who might have visited the station for the first time in the last 6-12 months (since they started the refurb of the upper platforms) you would think it is a worn out grotty station.

I reckon it will be one of the better looking stations if ever they finish the refurb. Provided of course they do a good clean once they have finisged. I have noticed at other stations they do a refurb and by the time they finish the first parts are already filthy and they don't do a final spit and polish.
So you're saying the platforms are under refurbishment, I assume it's similar to what happenned to the District platforms at Earl's Court and the roof is covered in scaffolding? If this is the case, why have you brought it up? What does the temporary state of the station have to do with what I was discussing?
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Old April 12th, 2010, 01:17 AM   #1026
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This station was "inspired" by the Moscow Metro, although without the socialist propaganda and precious stone.
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Old April 12th, 2010, 02:44 PM   #1027
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Canary Wharf - Norman Foster.

It's a cathedral, the God Bless the UK!

That's the coolest looking station I've ever seen.
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Old April 12th, 2010, 04:09 PM   #1028
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This station was "inspired" by the Moscow Metro, although without the socialist propaganda and precious stone.
Yes, it can clearly be noted by the central hall. AndI think it's a great looking station.
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Old April 12th, 2010, 04:48 PM   #1029
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Does anyone have the info about the LU being the longest system in the world? I.e. when it did become the largest in terms of route length? Was it all the way from the beginning or was it later?
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Old April 12th, 2010, 08:43 PM   #1030
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This station was "inspired" by the Moscow Metro, although without the socialist propaganda and precious stone.
Even without the lavish decorations of its inspiration, that's a pretty pleasant layout. Would be nice to see it on other LU stations, although I don't know how well it is at handling crowds and such.
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Old April 13th, 2010, 02:42 AM   #1031
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Even without the lavish decorations of its inspiration, that's a pretty pleasant layout. Would be nice to see it on other LU stations, although I don't know how well it is at handling crowds and such.
Well Gants Hill is rather a quiet station so it's hard to guess. It obviously handles crowds better than most deep level stations which are far more cramped.

The only other station with a long, wide central hall like Gants Hill is London Bridge on both the Northern and the Jubilee lines. The former however was constructed by building a new tunnel adjacent to the existing two-tunnel layout. The latter was built from scratch and, unlike Gants Hill, was not inspired by the Moscow Metro.

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Old April 13th, 2010, 07:09 AM   #1032
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Even without the lavish decorations of its inspiration, that's a pretty pleasant layout. Would be nice to see it on other LU stations, although I don't know how well it is at handling crowds and such.
The central hall handling it very well, removing most of passenger's flow from platforms. That is the main reason why it was actively used in the center from late 1930's.
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Does anyone have the info about the LU being the longest system in the world? I.e. when it did become the largest in terms of route length? Was it all the way from the beginning or was it later?
If you look at this photo album, it shows you how much the tube has changed (I took it with my camera phone hence the quality)

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&id=536097268

between 41-50 would be the longest route, which is currently the case; West Ruislip to Epping without changing.

although in 1898 you could have gone from new cross gate all the way to windsor via the district line which might be further
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Old April 14th, 2010, 05:43 AM   #1036
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I was wondering: is the loading gauge of the Underground's new S-stock, or any subsurface stock, wider than that of British mainline railways?
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Old April 15th, 2010, 08:20 PM   #1038
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I was wondering: is the loading gauge of the Underground's new S-stock, or any subsurface stock, wider than that of British mainline railways?
I'm sure that the existing sub-surface stock is wider than the average stock in use across the main line network.

With regards to the new S-stock, I'm not sure.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 08:42 PM   #1039
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Isn't the Metropolitan line A stock the widest in Britan ?
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It is. The S Stock however will not be the widest in Britain as they have to fit everywhere on the SSLs whereas the A Stock used the wider tunnels on the northern side of the Circle.
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