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Old June 29th, 2010, 04:57 AM   #1181
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Old June 29th, 2010, 07:13 AM   #1182
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Apologies if this has already been asked and answered amongst the sea of other posts on recent pages, but how many 2009 stock trains have now entered service on the Victoria Line?
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Old June 29th, 2010, 09:04 PM   #1183
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Apologies if this has already been asked and answered amongst the sea of other posts on recent pages, but how many 2009 stock trains have now entered service on the Victoria Line?
8 I think
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Old June 29th, 2010, 09:06 PM   #1184
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Nice to see you've rivalled Stalin in the history-manipulation stakes.
Would you believe that a mean RMT rep circulated a flyer around the Bakerloo Line comparing me to Joe Stalin?

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Old June 30th, 2010, 12:12 AM   #1185
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Southwark Station - Jubilee Line















http://www.flickr.com/photos/5593585...65406/sizes/l/
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Old June 30th, 2010, 01:43 AM   #1186
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Apologies if this has already been asked and answered amongst the sea of other posts on recent pages, but how many 2009 stock trains have now entered service on the Victoria Line?
Underground News June 2010 edition said: train 7 was being delivered making six trains commissioned for service. Train 2 to return to Derby soon.
(I think train 1 already has)
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Old June 30th, 2010, 02:38 PM   #1187
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But are all trains on Victoria Line being replaced?
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Old June 30th, 2010, 09:36 PM   #1188
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But are all trains on Victoria Line being replaced?
Yes, and the track and the signalling system.
Trouble is the two stocks and signalling systems have to work in parallel during the switch over.
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Old July 1st, 2010, 04:18 AM   #1189
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Yes, and the track and the signalling system.
Trouble is the two stocks and signalling systems have to work in parallel during the switch over.
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Great to see the replacement. Is any other line seeing replacements apart from Victoria?
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Old July 1st, 2010, 09:28 AM   #1190
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Great to see the replacement. Is any other line seeing replacements apart from Victoria?
Metropolitan, H&C, Circle and District... and eventually all the Overground trains should be replaced as well, I think?
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Old July 1st, 2010, 10:28 PM   #1191
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Didn't you ever think about separate the Northern line in two lines?

Northern line -> Edgware - Bank branch - Morden
Morden and City line -> High Barnet - Charing Cross branch - Kennington and maybe Peckham Rye Rail Station. In this line, Mill Hill East branch will be disused.
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 04:58 AM   #1192
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Didn't you ever think about separate the Northern line in two lines?

Northern line -> Edgware - Bank branch - Morden
Morden and City line -> High Barnet - Charing Cross branch - Kennington and maybe Peckham Rye Rail Station. In this line, Mill Hill East branch will be disused.
How many passengers presently use Mill Hill East?
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 08:44 AM   #1193
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How many passengers presently use Mill Hill East?
Just over a million. It's not going to close - it's quite useful and good for short runnings too, and the shuttle is doing its job for the rest of the day. It also causes zero problems on the rest of the line so why would you bother?

Anyway, yes, there is talk about splitting them, but it would be Edgware - Charing Cross - Kennington and High Barnet/MHE - Bank - Morden. It's the only way as each line would need a depot - there are two of them, one at Morden and one at Golders Green - so you can't have Golders Green and Morden both on one line!
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 06:50 PM   #1194
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Just over a million. It's not going to close - it's quite useful and good for short runnings too, and the shuttle is doing its job for the rest of the day. It also causes zero problems on the rest of the line so why would you bother?

Anyway, yes, there is talk about splitting them, but it would be Edgware - Charing Cross - Kennington and High Barnet/MHE - Bank - Morden. It's the only way as each line would need a depot - there are two of them, one at Morden and one at Golders Green - so you can't have Golders Green and Morden both on one line!
Not to mention that physically, Charing Cross trains have an underground balloon loop just south of Kennington so trains can turn back without switching ends.

I also understand that plans are fairly advanced to extend the Charing Cross branch south from Kennington to Nine Elms, with the new lines branching out from the loop south of Kennington.

http://www.tunneltalk.com/London-Und...-Battersea.php

One thing preventing the separation of the Northern Line into two lines is the inadequate underground interchange currently available at Camden Town. Camden Town is really two deep-level stations (two platforms on the Edgeware Branch and two platforms on the High Barnet Branch), joined by connecting passageways and with a single surface building. The station could not handle the interchange traffic caused by splitting the line into two.

For train operations, there are no issues, other than the limitation on the depots as indicated above. The junction south of Camden Town can handle any combination of route without interfering with any other route.

Camden Town Station and Junction - and can you imagine building a deep-level junction line that today?


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Old July 3rd, 2010, 04:42 AM   #1195
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Great to see the replacement. Is any other line seeing replacements apart from Victoria?
All of the sub-surface lines. The Jubilee line is set to get automatic train operation (ATO) in 2011. The Northern is set to get it after. Then the Piccadilly with new trains/signalling, and then finally the Bakerloo with new trains and signalling too. The scheduel is hazy because of funding issues and the PPP etc.
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 04:28 PM   #1196
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Thanks once again, good trains play an essential role in quality service.
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Old July 4th, 2010, 07:26 PM   #1197
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Old July 7th, 2010, 02:59 AM   #1198
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New S Stock being tested:

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Old July 7th, 2010, 03:06 AM   #1199
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This gives an idea how old the signalling on LU is.
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The new stock is really 'bulky', love it.
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