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Old July 18th, 2010, 09:10 PM   #1221
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It would be a pity if they didn't took advantage of the real speed capacity of trains.

I read something here about the old and the new signalling being used simultaneously at the moment until the replacement of the rolling stock is not finished.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 09:58 PM   #1222
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Old July 19th, 2010, 02:30 PM   #1223
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is it just me or the interior of the trains feels rather small and cramped?... the platforms seem kind of small to
ps: when the train stopped why didn't it leave to the next station?
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Old July 19th, 2010, 06:49 PM   #1224
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is it just me or the interior of the trains feels rather small and cramped?... the platforms seem kind of small to
ps: when the train stopped why didn't it leave to the next station?
Are you serious?

The Waterloo and City opened in 1898. Station size was established then.

You can't built a train any bigger than the tunnel diameter

Train doesn't continue because it is the end of the line. Waterloo and City is a two station shuttle line.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 08:34 PM   #1225
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so they choose to build small cramped trains instead of building future tunnels bigger and modernising old ones? i'm pretty sure other cities confronted this problem and didn't found the best solution to adapt all present and future trains to 19 century tunnels
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Old July 19th, 2010, 08:39 PM   #1226
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is it just me or the interior of the trains feels rather small and cramped?... the platforms seem kind of small to
ps: when the train stopped why didn't it leave to the next station?
Compared to other mass transit systems I've used I would say they are more spacious simply because of the parallel seating, which gives much more room.

And don't forget LU is the oldest metro system in the world, you can't change the all network overnight. With the exception of that corner at the end of the platform (in the video), I can't see any problem with the platform size.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #1227
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From the side these trains do look pretty good. Not to keen on the cab ends tho
New S Stock looks great. Which lines will these be installed on?
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Old July 20th, 2010, 01:06 AM   #1228
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Metropolitan, Hammersmith & City, Circle & District
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Old July 20th, 2010, 05:25 PM   #1229
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so they choose to build small cramped trains instead of building future tunnels bigger and modernising old ones? i'm pretty sure other cities confronted this problem and didn't found the best solution to adapt all present and future trains to 19 century tunnels
As others have pointed out many times, the Waterloo and City was built in the 19th century making it one of the very earliest deep-bore tube lines in the world. You would have to rebuild it from scratch in a wider bore tunnel to have bigger trains; which I don't think are cramped btw, having used this line myself.

The best reason I reckon for doing this on the W&C line however would be to make it possible to extend it, which would be very difficult on its current alignment at the Bank end at least.

I'm not sure what you mean about rebuilding old 19th century tube tunnels elsewhere in the world. Could you give some examples?
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so they choose to build small cramped trains instead of building future tunnels bigger and modernising old ones? i'm pretty sure other cities confronted this problem and didn't found the best solution to adapt all present and future trains to 19 century tunnels
I don't see a problem. The station and trains are big enough for the volumes. Extending the line north is not possible as other tube tunnels are in the way - the platform tunnels would have to be closed and new platform tunnels built at a different level and orientation. Extending south makes no sense either as this would duplicate Bakerloo and Northern lines in an area well served by Network rail trains. Seems to me that London can spend its money on more worthy and less costly upgrades. The Waterloo and City is effective at what it does - move peak commuters from The City to Waterloo Station.
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so they choose to build small cramped trains instead of building future tunnels bigger and modernising old ones?
What is crazy about that? On the basis new trains costs about a tenth of what you are suggesting it seems quite sensible.
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Old July 23rd, 2010, 08:59 PM   #1235
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One day I reckon someone will accidentally trip over the step-free 'hump' or a tactile paving slab and end up under a train
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Old July 24th, 2010, 04:44 AM   #1236
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At least at this station the raised section actually matches the rest of the flooring.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 04:25 AM   #1237
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One day I reckon someone will accidentally trip over the step-free 'hump' or a tactile paving slab and end up under a train
The ramp doesn't look like it has a big slop.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 11:38 AM   #1238
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The ramp doesn't look like it has a big slop.
It's not, but it's a bit disconcerting the first time you encounter one. I could honestly see someone in a rush down the platform being caught out and tripping over the slope, gentle or not.
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