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Old November 24th, 2010, 08:13 PM   #1621
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They are doing a lot of repairing work on many Victoria Line stations so they look like little gems from the early times. They did that on Green Park station quite recently.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 02:38 PM   #1622
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haha if one thinks the Victoria line is bad then he/she needs to see more of the underground
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Old November 25th, 2010, 09:08 PM   #1623
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Commuters told to avoid Tube during Olympics

Commuters will be advised to avoid using the Underground during the Olympics as the network struggles to cope with millions more visitors.

Games chiefs will urge more people to walk to work from mainline railway stations, get on their bike or use other means of travel. Bosses will also be asked to allow staff to work from home and set up video and telephone conferences instead of travelling to meetings.

Kicking off a London 2012 public information campaign, the Olympic Delivery Authority revealed for the first time the impact the Games will have on the city's transport network. They expect an extra 20 million journeys on public transport, with trips almost doubling from the daily norm to 6.5 million on the busiest day.

The influx will include 10 million ticket-holders and a million visitors to outdoor “live sites” broadcasting Olympic action in the biggest logistical exercise ever undertaken in London. Tube travellers will be faced with delays of up to one hour on key routes, the authority warned.

Disruption will be worst on the Central and Jubilee lines, which will ferry spectators eastwards to the Olympic Park in Stratford. The forecast delays will be a blow to long-suffering office workers using the Jubilee line, which has become one of the most notorious stretches of the network.

Today's “Keep on Running” campaign comes amid concern that businesses located on or near the 100-mile network of VIP Olympic lanes will suffer disruption. Firms on the route have been advised to order supplies early and reschedule deliveries to off-peak times. The Federation of Small Businesses has said it might advise some members to shut down during the Olympics, but the authority said it hoped such measures would not be necessary.

Speaking to a meeting of 400 businesses about Olympic transport at the ExCel centre, its chief executive David Higgins said: “There will also be some challenges for the capital as we welcome the world to London. It will be business as unusual and we are reaching out early to help companies plan their Games and ensure they keep running in 2012.”

Colin Stanbridge, chief executive of the London Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said: “There will be inevitable pressures on the transport system and it is crucial that all companies are aware of any impact on their own firm. Affected businesses will need to think ahead and should start considering plans as early as possible.

“This might include implementing travel plans or flexible working for employees, reducing non-essential journeys and making adjustments to delivery schedules to ensure they can remain open for business as normal.”

How transport will be affected

Roads

Games chiefs want the number of road journeys into London cut by a fifth for the Games — on top of the seasonal drop of 10 per cent during the school holidays when the event takes place.

Only with such reductions can they be confident that the network of Olympic lanes will work. They have guaranteed that VIPs will be able to get from their hotels in Park Lane to Stratford in 17 minutes.

Tube

The greatest pressure will be on Central and Jubilee lines heading to the Olympic Park where the main gateway stations will be Stratford and West Ham. Queues outside stations during extended morning and evening peaks seem inevitable and experts have warned of paralysis if Stratford station is shut by a security alert.

Rail

Commuter routes into London will be under greater pressure. Carriages with standing room only will be further burdened as Olympics fans from the commuter belt travel in during rush hour for early heats. The will be extra pressure on St Pancras, from where millions of ticketholders will be shuttled into the Park on the high-speed javelin.

Cycling/walking

Games bosses want Londoners to embrace the spirit of the Tube strikes and get on their bikes. There will be a massive bike park in Victoria Park and the Boris bike scheme is being extended to Tower Hamlets by 2012.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 12:16 AM   #1624
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Victoria line tops Tube complaints as £10m new trains are launched



The Victoria line receives more complaints than any other Tube route — even though many of its multi-million-pound new trains are now running, new figures reveal.

Its passengers made 174 complaints out of 1,986 over the whole network in the four weeks from September 19, the most recently available statistics. Twenty of the line's new trains, about half the additional stock, were operational at the time. The rest are being introduced at the rate of one a fortnight as part of a £900 million upgrade due for completion by spring 2012.

However, problems with computer software failures and over-sensitive door sensors have raised questions over whether adequate testing was carried out. In one instance last month thousands suffered delays after the straps of a passenger's bag were caught in the doors of a new train. The District line had the second highest number of complaints with 161, followed by the Jubilee line with 158.

The four weeks covered came just before the Tube's “worst month” on record for delays. Complaints for that period, when thousands of passengers had to be led through tunnels to safety, are expected to be higher. The figures were uncovered by Valerie Shawcross, Labour transport spokeswoman for the London Assembly. She said: “They show that passengers are rightly aggrieved. The Mayor needs to show he is taking action.”

London Underground's managing director Mike Brown confirmed the new Victoria line stock is suffering from some “fundamental issues”. He said the faults were a direct result of contracts awarded by defunct maintenance giant Metronet which meant new stock was not “intensively tested”. A Transport for London official said: “Several unrelated problems caused disruption during this period, including industrial action.

“Close to 90 million trips were completed at the time, meaning fewer than one in 40,000 resulted in complaint.” During the bag incident the train's doors could not completely close, which stopped the train and led to all 800 passengers being ordered off. It was taken out of service. It was one of the fully automatic £10 million trains ordered as part of the Victoria line's £900 million upgrade.

Ambulances were called to Pimlico last week when 3,000 were trapped inside “furnace-like” carriages in a broken train. TfL admits the problem was caused by the new trains, which have proved 23 times less reliable than the 43-year-old trains they are replacing.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 12:25 AM   #1625
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how can you explain that such "modern" voitures meet so much failures?
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Old November 26th, 2010, 12:37 AM   #1626
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Could be simply bad luck or a manufacturing problem. The trains are from Bombardier Transportation. Anyway, no one better than Tubeman or iampuking to answer that I suppose.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 12:40 AM   #1627
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Old November 26th, 2010, 05:43 AM   #1628
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Teething problems is the only answer I can come up with.

And btw, there is only one 'n' in my screen name.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 02:53 PM   #1629
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how can you explain that such "modern" voitures meet so much failures?
It is integration/teething problems. You have old trains on infrastructure that is partially old (which they are designed for) and partially old (which they are not). The opposite is true for the new stock.

If there are still problems with the new stock when the signalling etc is complete and they have been running for a month or two like that - then we have problems!!
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Old November 26th, 2010, 04:33 PM   #1630
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The Victoria Line: Bathtubs and Breakdowns

The amount of problems and minor delays has been very irritating.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 11:00 PM   #1631
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Old November 26th, 2010, 11:42 PM   #1632
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I notice something with London transports:

They are modern without being futuristic unlikely Asia cities or paris , barcelona for europe!

-Like you show the stations are clean, clear, cars too but not so fantastic when come to futuristic aspect.
-Waterloo station was cool designed but when you walk there when eurostar used to arrive there it wasn't futuristic
-St pancras too! very clean and modern but not futuristic!
-it seems to be the same for new stratford railway station= a continuation , not a revolution in design

It is a thing i notice in the most of your transportation urban spaces-> being modern without being futuristic!

It's a different path when you compare asia futuristic new transports places.

it's just my opinion.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 11:53 PM   #1633
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A few interesting points from Modern Railways in regards to London Rail.

The Tube upgrade project has survived largely untouched in regards the comprehensive spending review. Cuts are concentrated in Station upgrades. New trains, signalling track and power has priority.

There is some massive resignalling required and there are no kind words about Thales in regards to the Jubilee line.

As they have got a bit more time for new trains for the deep tubes they have begun to rethink on new trains and it looks like they are basically reviving the Space train concept, but now called the Evo.

Basically they are looking at a semi-articulated configuration. Made of light weight aluminium design, passive steering bogies, all double doors with through gangways between cars and a lower floor. From the picture supplied it looks similar to the Xtropolis design pitched for Crossrail. There would be two double doors per articulated section, with both doors practically next to each other. Each carriage would be much shorter than current stock. The aim is to reduce power consumption from 0.42 Kwh per passenger km to just 0.26 kwh/ per pkm. This would produce much less heat in the tunnels and allow air conditioning on the trains. Even if that does not quite work out the less heat put in to the tunnels the better.

After the Sub surface lines are resignalled the Piccadilly line will be the next one to resignalled as there is a high degree of line sharing with the sub surface lines.
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Aren't Victoria Line and Jubilee Line the only ones being resignalled at the moment?
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Old November 27th, 2010, 03:35 AM   #1635
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I notice something with London transports:

They are modern without being futuristic unlikely Asia cities or paris , barcelona for europe!

-Like you show the stations are clean, clear, cars too but not so fantastic when come to futuristic aspect.
-Waterloo station was cool designed but when you walk there when eurostar used to arrive there it wasn't futuristic
-St pancras too! very clean and modern but not futuristic!
-it seems to be the same for new stratford railway station= a continuation , not a revolution in design

It is a thing i notice in the most of your transportation urban spaces-> being modern without being futuristic!

It's a different path when you compare asia futuristic new transports places.

it's just my opinion.
Care to post examples?

And your argument about St Pancras is void because the recent section was designed to compliment, rather than compete with, the original Barlow trainshed.
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I doubt I'm the only one...
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haha if one thinks the Victoria line is bad then he/she needs to see more of the underground
are you kidding??? i am living here for some time now...so i am far away legible when i am saying this...for me...best tube lines are central and northern line and also Jubilee...
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