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Old August 25th, 2013, 02:34 AM   #61
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Also, the distance is not negligible. The map might look deceiving.

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Another thing which might be of interest: The beige building behind the orange/red neo-gothic building in the middle did actually use to look like this before it was redesigned and simplified into its current look. Here it is on streetview. Yes, it is the very same building.
Why did they do that?
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Why did they do that?
Because modernism. Here is a similar redesign from Oslo. There are a few of these around the country. And another one in Larvik.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 02:54 AM   #63
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So they didn't destroy those building, but totally redesigned it? How about the interior?
It seems a bit weird. This kind of modernization happened often in my country, but the old buidlings were just demolished. That way, they had the freedom that come up with something completely new (and often a lot bigger).
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A lot is because the traintrack/infrastructure especially between Oslo and Bergen is ancient with only some very minor updates+upkeep.

In Norway, many fly between Oslo and Bergen, alternatively drive. Train is only (or at least mostly) for those with time to spare.
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Because the line is a old, outdated, single-railed thing that stops in every town along the way. It is not exactly high speed. It is not without reason Norwegians in general chose to fly and which is why we have some of the busiest air routes in Europe.

Edit: dexter26 was faster than me.
That's such a shame. I'm afraid it's even slower than our trains.
What's its maximum speed and distance from Oslo to Bergen?
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Old August 25th, 2013, 03:05 AM   #65
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So they didn't destroy those building, but totally redesigned it? How about the interior?
Yes, that's right. I'm unsure about the interiors as I have never been inside any of the buildings, but I doubt they showed much mercy when handling it given how the outsides look. Many commercial buildings, even the "well preserved ones", from this period have gotten their interior gutted in order to have modern, open floor plans anyway. I suspect that the same is true for the ones I linked to too.
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It seems a bit weird. This kind of modernization happened often in my country, but the old buidlings were just demolished. That way, they had the freedom that come up with something completely new (and often a lot bigger).
Well, they did that too. For example this building was demolished here in Oslo. There were even long plans about demolishing the whole wharf in Bergen too. Plans which got approved, but luckily got stopped due to protests from the local population in the last minute.

I guess it is much cheaper to maintain a facade consisting of concrete plates than a ornament stone and plaster facade, so these redesigns made sense financially and I doubt the landlords were hard to convince when the people in power showed little desires to preserve it.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 03:20 AM   #66
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That's such a shame. I'm afraid it's even slower than our trains.
What's its maximum speed and distance from Oslo to Bergen?
The line is 471,25 km long. The air distance between Oslo and Bergen is around 300km. Maximum speed the line reaches is 160km/h on top of the Hardangervidda mountain plateau. The maximum speed on the rest of the stretch is 130km/h.
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The line is 471,25 km long. The air distance between Oslo and Bergen is around 300km. Maximum speed the line reaches is 160km/h on top of the Hardangervidda mountain plateau. The maximum speed on the rest of the stretch is 130km/h.
Oh, so train spents a lot of time embarking and disembarking people in the stations. The train itself is quite fast.
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Really beautiful! thanks!
A question, I've noticed something in a couple of buildings, in the first pic you can see that the horizontal lines of each building are not parallel with the next building, and in the second pic in the windows of the white building you can see that windows of the samen building and floor are not parallel, one is slightly lower than the next one. There's any reason for that?

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Old August 25th, 2013, 03:49 PM   #69
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Really beautiful! thanks!
A question, I've noticed something in a couple of buildings, in the first pic you can see that the horizontal lines of each building are not parallel with the next building, and in the second pic in the windows of the white building you can see that windows of the samen building and floor are not parallel, one is slightly lower than the next one. There's any reason for that?
The buildings have sunken and settled independently from each other due to a combination of unstable ground, poor foundation and a unstable and lively material like wood inherently is. Just like the Leaning tower in Pisa, only difference being that these are built in wood. They are leaning all over the place. Just take a look at this image: http://www.all-free-photos.com/image.../PI5206-hr.jpg or this:



It's a rather common feature on old wooden buildings in Norway (and elsewhere for that matter). Two other examples from Norway:
- http://www.unesco.org/new/typo3temp/pics/62cfcb67c4.jpg
- http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FYjktarmQD...0/IMG_6452.JPG
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Really beautiful! thanks!
A question, I've noticed something in a couple of buildings, in the first pic you can see that the horizontal lines of each building are not parallel with the next building, and in the second pic in the windows of the white building you can see that windows of the samen building and floor are not parallel, one is slightly lower than the next one. There's any reason for that?
Thanks! Yes as Galro explained its all to do with them being old and built of wood, although the same can happen to brick buildings too.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 12:01 AM   #71
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Yup, in Dutch cities you ofthen see this with brick houses. They lean all over the place like in this picture: http://www.tabhauser.com/Amsterdam/a...0tabhauser.JPG

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That's cool, is this Roros? Looks almost as cool as that ghost town from Insomnia film.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 02:34 AM   #73
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Yes, it's RÝros (Roeros), an old mining town an two hours drive from Trondheim. Here it is on streetview:

https://maps.google.no/maps?q=r%C3%B...,73.07,,0,-1.4
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Excellent photos. The most beautiful feature about the place seems to be the landscape. I'd love to do some exercising while climbing those hills.
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The planners were thinking the same. There's loads of trails and paths in those mountains, the main ones are paved and go up/down the mountains gently, with wide bends, others are rough, narrow and steep and with plenty of hair-raising moments too! Great views all round. It's really impressive and beautiful city.
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41. Back to the street level now. Some ship being repaired. Just look how wooded the mountains are - practically a wilderness.



42. The previously mentioned yacht of Emir of Qatar - Katara built in 2010 in Germany.



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44. One of the ships we saw from Floyen. Rosenkrantz Tower in the background.

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The buildings have sunken and settled independently from each other due to a combination of unstable ground, poor foundation and a unstable and lively material like wood inherently is. Just like the Leaning tower in Pisa, only difference being that these are built in wood. They are leaning all over the place. Just take a look at this image: http://www.all-free-photos.com/image.../PI5206-hr.jpg or this:



It's a rather common feature on old wooden buildings in Norway (and elsewhere for that matter). Two other examples from Norway:
- http://www.unesco.org/new/typo3temp/pics/62cfcb67c4.jpg
- http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FYjktarmQD...0/IMG_6452.JPG
Very interesting, thanks!
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45. An 18th century building within Bergenhus Fortress walls, Rosenkrantz Tower behind it.



46. Haakon VII of Norway.



47. Random building near Bryggen.

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48. Some more of Bergens residential areas.



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