daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Subways and Urban Transport

Subways and Urban Transport Metros, subways, light rail, trams, buses and other local transport systems



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old August 25th, 2013, 08:52 PM   #1
micro
Registered User
 
micro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hamburg, .de Home: everywhere
Posts: 1,258
Likes (Received): 106

MISC | Adjacent Metro Cities

Do you know more metro/subway or LRT lines that run between metro cities?


New page @ metrobits.org: http://mic-ro.com/metro/adjacentcities.html
__________________

metrobits.org
| Follow metrobits.org on Twitter

n20 liked this post
micro no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old August 25th, 2013, 10:36 PM   #2
Falubaz
Registered User
 
Falubaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Zielona Gora, Polska
Posts: 14,799
Likes (Received): 2940

Busan-Gimhae line conects these two cities
__________________
Zielona Góra - Ziemia Lubuska

₪₪₪Zielona Góra moim okiem₪₪₪ Zielonogórskie autobusy₪₪₪Port Lotniczy ZIElona Góra₪₪₪ BRT₪₪₪ścieżki rowerowe w ZG
₪₪₪[Świat] „Przebłyski pamięci”₪₪₪Moja Ameryka - nie tylko Stany
Falubaz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 12:16 AM   #3
micro
Registered User
 
micro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hamburg, .de Home: everywhere
Posts: 1,258
Likes (Received): 106

But Gimhae doesn't have its own metro/LRT system.

Only connections between actual metro/subway/LRT cities please.
micro no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 12:21 AM   #4
Svartmetall
Ordo Ab Chao
 
Svartmetall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Past: Northampton, UK (19 years), Auckland NZ (7 years), Now: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 14,074
Likes (Received): 8796

Are you counting metro-like Japanese commuter rail (as your list suggests)? In which case, should you not add Osaka to Kyoto and Osaka to Kobe?

Additionally - Chiba is connected to Tokyo via the very frequent Sobu line (metro-like) and connects the Chiba Monorail and Tokyo metro systems.

Last edited by Svartmetall; August 26th, 2013 at 12:29 AM.
Svartmetall no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 01:13 AM   #5
Minato ku
Moderator
 
Minato ku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Paris, Montrouge
Posts: 16,746

Do we really count Jersey City and Newark as metro cities?
PATH for me is more a subway service linking to Manhattan than the real metro service for Jersey City and Newark.

It is not like Yokohama or Busan which have real local metro system primarily serving the city.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Svartmetall View Post
Are you counting metro-like Japanese commuter rail (as your list suggests)? In which case, should you not add Osaka to Kyoto and Osaka to Kobe?

Additionally - Chiba is connected to Tokyo via the very frequent Sobu line (metro-like) and connects the Chiba Monorail and Tokyo metro systems.
There are through services between the Fukutoshin line of Tokyo metro to Yokohama via the Tokyu Toyoko line and Tokyu Den Toshi line.
So by taking a Tokyo metro train you can go to Yokohama and then transfer to Yokohama subway.
Infact you can also go to Minatomirai line (a subway line in Yokohama) directly by taking a subway train on the Fukutoshin line without changing of train.
__________________
すみません !
J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !
Minato ku no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 01:35 AM   #6
Svartmetall
Ordo Ab Chao
 
Svartmetall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Past: Northampton, UK (19 years), Auckland NZ (7 years), Now: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 14,074
Likes (Received): 8796

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minato ku View Post
There are through services between the Fukutoshin line of Tokyo metro to Yokohama via the Tokyu Toyoko line and Tokyu Den Toshi line.
So by taking a Tokyo metro train you can go to Yokohama and then transfer to Yokohama subway.
Infact you can also go to Minatomirai line (a subway line in Yokohama) directly by taking a subway train on the Fukutoshin line without changing of train.
Ah okay, so he only wants direct to direct transfers, gottcha. I didn't think the regular Keio line interlined with any subway lines, only the Keio New Line (which yes, joins up with the Keio line) on the TOEI Shinjuku line, hence my confusion.

Anyway, nevermind, misunderstood his criteria.
Svartmetall no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 01:55 AM   #7
Minato ku
Moderator
 
Minato ku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Paris, Montrouge
Posts: 16,746

Well, I don't know the criteria, too.
I mean, what is the metro system of Kamakura? The Enoden?

If we look the lines included he uses commuter lines that have no through services with the subway.
So you are right about Osaka with Kobe and Kyoto. It may be included using his criteria.

Being more strict about the metro definition, I would agree for Tokyo/Yokohama but not for Tokyo/Tama and Yokohma/Kamakura.
__________________
すみません !
J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !
Minato ku no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 02:00 AM   #8
xeror
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 136
Likes (Received): 33

How about Taipei Metro connecting Taipei, New Taipei City and Taoyuan?
xeror no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 02:16 AM   #9
Minato ku
Moderator
 
Minato ku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Paris, Montrouge
Posts: 16,746

New Taipei city and Taoyuan are not metro cities, understand a city with its own metro system.
New Taipei city is served by the metro network of Taipei but it doesn't have its own system or line.
__________________
すみません !
J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !
Minato ku no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 08:03 AM   #10
Silly_Walks
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,974
Likes (Received): 836

Rotterdam-The Hague? The Hague is not a 'metro city', they only have trams.

Otherwise you could also include Amsterdam-Amstelveen (line 51), because Amstelveen has LRT (line 51 and line 5). Or Amsterdam-Diemen (line 9), because Diemen has a tram :P
Silly_Walks está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 08:32 AM   #11
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minato ku View Post
Do we really count Jersey City and Newark as metro cities?
Of course they are. Why are you inclined to disqualify intra-NJ nightime (11PM-6AM) travelers there?

Anyhow, Seoul and Inchon(sp?) must be linked up by now
__________________
.
hee hee
.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 10:34 AM   #12
Alargule
Res Uder et Siger
 
Alargule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 8,204
Likes (Received): 2080

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly_Walks View Post
Rotterdam-The Hague? The Hague is not a 'metro city', they only have trams.
Den Haag would indeed hardly qualify as a 'metro city' by European standards. By American standards, however, it might be qualified as such because the tram network might be qualified as a LRT network. Den Haag does have some infrastructure resembling LRT standards (trams running on their own right of way, larger vehicles (Randstadrail), tunnel sections).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly_Walks View Post
Otherwise you could also include Amsterdam-Amstelveen (line 51), because Amstelveen has LRT (line 51 and line 5). Or Amsterdam-Diemen (line 9), because Diemen has a tram :P
That's not entirely correct. Whereas Den Haag trams are run by HTM, a company that falls under jurisdiction of the city of Den Haag, tram lines to Amstelveen and Diemen are run by GVB, a company that falls under jurisdiction of the city of Amsterdam.
Alargule no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 10:55 AM   #13
xeror
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 136
Likes (Received): 33

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minato ku View Post
New Taipei city and Taoyuan are not metro cities, understand a city with its own metro system.
New Taipei city is served by the metro network of Taipei but it doesn't have its own system or line.
Well it's controversial on the definition of whether New Taipei City is a metro city or not. Among the 99 stations of Taipei Metro, 34 of them, more than one third, are outside Taipei City. The shareholders of Taipei Metro company include both governments of Taipei City and New Taipei City. You may regard this metro as a system shared by two cities. And its name Taipei Metro does not mean that it is the metro system of Taipei City only as Taipei can mean Taipei City and Taipei County (former name of New Taipei City when Taipei Metro was built).

As a comparison, Foshan Metro has only 11 stations within its city limit and the whole system (currently only one line, Guangfo Line) is currently operated under Guangzhou Metro. Although you may say it has its own name, it does not make a significant difference to Taipei Metro.
xeror no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 12:16 PM   #14
CNGL
Leudimin
 
CNGL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Huesca
Posts: 7,450
Likes (Received): 1932

The Shenzhen "red" and "green" lines are Longhua and Luobao lines. I hate this though, they should have kept numbers (Lines 4 and 1) instead of switching to names.

But wait a few years, then the Pearl River Delta area will be crazy with lots of connections.
__________________
Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum, quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non nunquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem - Cicero, De finibus bonorum et malorum, from which placeholder text is derived.
CNGL no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 12:20 PM   #15
Minato ku
Moderator
 
Minato ku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Paris, Montrouge
Posts: 16,746

Quote:
Originally Posted by xeror View Post
Well it's controversial on the definition of whether New Taipei City is a metro city or not. Among the 99 stations of Taipei Metro, 34 of them, more than one third, are outside Taipei City. The shareholders of Taipei Metro company include both governments of Taipei City and New Taipei City. You may regard this metro as a system shared by two cities. And its name Taipei Metro does not mean that it is the metro system of Taipei City only as Taipei can mean Taipei City and Taipei County (former name of New Taipei City when Taipei Metro was built).

As a comparison, Foshan Metro has only 11 stations within its city limit and the whole system (currently only one line, Guangfo Line) is currently operated under Guangzhou Metro. Although you may say it has its own name, it does not make a significant difference to Taipei Metro.
What you should look is where is centered the network, not the number of station outside the city limits.
All the connections between metro lines are in Taipei city, none are in New Taipei.

As such, the subway in New Taipei is just the Taipei metro network extended to the suburbs, not a different system or line made specially for New Taipei
I am pretty ignorant about Foshan, so, I can't say anything.
__________________
すみません !
J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !
Minato ku no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 02:02 PM   #16
xeror
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 136
Likes (Received): 33

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minato ku View Post
What you should look is where is centered the network, not the number of station outside the city limits.
All the connections between metro lines are in Taipei city, none are in New Taipei.

As such, the subway in New Taipei is just the Taipei metro network extended to the suburbs, not a different system or line made specially for New Taipei
I am pretty ignorant about Foshan, so, I can't say anything.
It may be vague to define which city owns the metro system based on the locations of the interchange stations. They are solely the consequences of the alignments of lines. You can design a system with interchange stations outside the city core simply because there is no space to build a large station. What if when the west part of the circle line of Taipei Metro is built? There are 5 interchange stations with the existing lines within New Taipei City. Do you classify New Taipei City as a metro city by then?

The center of the system is not a good criterion either. Just take the London Underground as an example, a part of the system core is within the City of London instead of London with a couple interchange stations with high usage. Although the busiest station, King's Cross St. Pancras, is just outside the City of London. Nonetheless the center of Taipei Metro is inarguably located in Taipei City. However, it is simply because New Taipei City was a county and its center is located inside Taipei City.

Taipei Metro is financially owned by both Taipei City and New Taipei City and a significant part of it is geographically located within New Taipei City. I would say it is a shared metro system between these two city. What the thread starter meant may be 2 separable systems that are connected by a single or 2 metro lines. This excludes the systems shared by multiple cities.
xeror no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 04:45 PM   #17
Falubaz
Registered User
 
Falubaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Zielona Gora, Polska
Posts: 14,799
Likes (Received): 2940

Quote:
Originally Posted by trainrover View Post
...
Anyhow, Seoul and Inchon(sp?) must be linked up by now
Oh, Incheon line 1 is conected to Seoul metro at 4 points:
line 1 (at Bupyeong)
line 7 (at Bupyeong-gu)
line AREX (at Gyeyang)
Suin Line conects Incheon line 1 with Seoul line 4 at its terminus in Oido
__________________
Zielona Góra - Ziemia Lubuska

₪₪₪Zielona Góra moim okiem₪₪₪ Zielonogórskie autobusy₪₪₪Port Lotniczy ZIElona Góra₪₪₪ BRT₪₪₪ścieżki rowerowe w ZG
₪₪₪[Świat] „Przebłyski pamięci”₪₪₪Moja Ameryka - nie tylko Stany

Ashis Mitra liked this post
Falubaz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 05:05 PM   #18
chornedsnorkack
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4,974
Likes (Received): 388

Quote:
Originally Posted by CNGL View Post
The Shenzhen "red" and "green" lines are Longhua and Luobao lines. I hate this though, they should have kept numbers (Lines 4 and 1) instead of switching to names.
More importantly, they are NOT connected to East Rail.

Shenzhen-Guangzhou railway is. But it is not a metro. Even its stations are deserted - between Shenzhen and Zhangmutou, 44 km, all trains without exception are nonstop. I suspect Tangtouxia and Shigu, in Dongguan, are completely deserted, and trains that stop in "Shenzhen East" fail to continue to Shenzhen. Not sure about Pinghu station.
chornedsnorkack no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 09:09 PM   #19
Minato ku
Moderator
 
Minato ku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Paris, Montrouge
Posts: 16,746

Quote:
Originally Posted by xeror View Post
The center of the system is not a good criterion either. Just take the London Underground as an example, a part of the system core is within the City of London instead of London with a couple interchange stations with high usage. Although the busiest station, King's Cross St. Pancras, is just outside the City of London. Nonetheless the center of Taipei Metro is inarguably located in Taipei City. However, it is simply because New Taipei City was a county and its center is located inside Taipei City.

Taipei Metro is financially owned by both Taipei City and New Taipei City and a significant part of it is geographically located within New Taipei City.
I don't see what this has to do with this thread.
You mean that Tapiei and New Taipei have the same metro network, I agree on this point but this is not two adjacent metro cities.
It is the same network for the metropolitan area of Taipei.

It is very different of Tokyo and Yokohama.
Yokohama has its own metro system independent of Tokyo subway networks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by xeror View Post
I would say it is a shared metro system between these two city. What the thread starter meant may be 2 separable systems that are connected by a single or 2 metro lines. This excludes the systems shared by multiple cities.
If you include city because the metro network serves the suburbs, you could add a lot of city.
__________________
すみません !
J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !
Minato ku no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2013, 09:26 PM   #20
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

Hmm, 3 pairs so far ain't much of a count, eh?
__________________
.
hee hee
.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium