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Old April 8th, 2015, 07:06 PM   #341
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I have a hard time believing that this tower will stand 1009' tall. Every models and renderings I had seen for this tower suggests it's much taller.
It's still below 30 Hudson's roof though, so not much taller but still probably taller than 1009'.

Maybe 1100-1150?
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Old April 8th, 2015, 09:44 PM   #342
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Every time I look around seems like a new render. We know it will be over 1,000 ft but goodness knows what form they will finally decide on.
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And the renders aren't getting better either. I'm beginning to lose interest.
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Old April 9th, 2015, 05:52 AM   #344
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I'm happy with all the Hudson Yards towers but I'm pretty disappointed with 35 Hudson Yards. I really hope it's not final.
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I'm happy with the height of 35 Hudson(believe it may well wind up in the 1,100 ft range when it's done) but the ever changing design is frustrating, especially when the latest looks blocky and boxy and the original was changed to be sleeker because it looked too cylindrical and blocky. I'm also mildly perturbed they took the corset out of the Culture Tower which really defined it, though they have not changed the basic four tubed upper section which still makes it distinct and interesting. The office towers and the retail area where Neiman Marcus will highlight and the Culture Shed still look good to me in their renderings and I just hope we get a final design soon.
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Old April 9th, 2015, 07:21 PM   #346
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I'm happy with the new design of this building, but not with its height. To me anything shorter than the Freedom Tower is a huge disappointment. So far I would characterize the Hudson Yards as a horribly wasted huge potential. The designs of most buildings are medicore, the heights of all buildings are medicore, the urban planning is sub standard ........ I mean look at how much free space there was - free space in the most valuable city on Earth. And what did they build there? Just some fillers to fill in the space, nothing that would come even remotely close to being even slightly extraordinary. What a wasted opportunity ........
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I'm happy with the new design of this building, but not with its height. To me anything shorter than the Freedom Tower is a huge disappointment. So far I would characterize the Hudson Yards as a horribly wasted huge potential. The designs of most buildings are medicore, the heights of all buildings are medicore, the urban planning is sub standard ........ I mean look at how much free space there was - free space in the most valuable city on Earth. And what did they build there? Just some fillers to fill in the space, nothing that would come even remotely close to being even slightly extraordinary. What a wasted opportunity ........
I don't think it's a wasted opportunity at all, not every building built in NY is going to be higher than 1WTC. We already have potential towers to go higher than that building in Midtown anyway so a bunch of 1000-1200+ foot towers is still amazing.
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Old April 9th, 2015, 11:48 PM   #348
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People still call it Freedom Tower? What is this, 2008?
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People still call it Freedom Tower? What is this, 2008?
Ha! I know, what a terrible name.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 12:05 AM   #350
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Well, it needs an interesting name. 1WTC is uninteresting and uniconic. The former North Tower was 1WTC too, yet to give it some life and an iconic status people called it the North Tower and together with its twin they called them the Twin Towers. I think that Freedom Tower is a very good name - iconic, bold and memorable. A name suitable for a building of its stature
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Well, it needs an interesting name. 1WTC is uninteresting and uniconic. The former North Tower was 1WTC too, yet to give it some life and an iconic status people called it the North Tower and together with its twin they called them the Twin Towers. I think that Freedom Tower is a very good name - iconic, bold and memorable. A name suitable for a building of its stature
Well opinions are opinions but I personally think it's the cheesiest name they could come up with, I mean obviously it's better than say "pile-of-shit tower" or something but it's still pretty bad.
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I'm happy with the new design of this building, but not with its height. To me anything shorter than the Freedom Tower is a huge disappointment. So far I would characterize the Hudson Yards as a horribly wasted huge potential. The designs of most buildings are medicore, the heights of all buildings are medicore, the urban planning is sub standard ........ I mean look at how much free space there was - free space in the most valuable city on Earth. And what did they build there? Just some fillers to fill in the space, nothing that would come even remotely close to being even slightly extraordinary. What a wasted opportunity ........
I remain cautiously optimistic that we'll se at least two towers in the HY eclipsing 1WTC. One beign the Tishman's Spire site and the other will be proposed by late 2015/ early 2016. But ... a real signature tower will most likely rise in Midtown East or at MSG. 57th Street has kind of reached its height limit with Nordstrom (there could be one tower with a higher roof) and Lower Manhattan won't go over 450m+ for a while (maybe 80 South can pull it off).
So yes, Midtown East is a very likely location for a huge tower since the rezoning is in full swing.
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I'm waiting for the next design!
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I'm happy with the new design of this building, but not with its height. To me anything shorter than the Freedom Tower is a huge disappointment. So far I would characterize the Hudson Yards as a horribly wasted huge potential. The designs of most buildings are medicore, the heights of all buildings are medicore, the urban planning is sub standard ........ I mean look at how much free space there was - free space in the most valuable city on Earth. And what did they build there? Just some fillers to fill in the space, nothing that would come even remotely close to being even slightly extraordinary. What a wasted opportunity ........
Give me a break......Filler? Is this a joke? You have, all next to each other, a tower that is 1280ft, 900ft, 920ft, 1000ft, 780ft, 1070ft, 1050ft, and Tishman Spire. Quit the crap and appreciate what we are getting.
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Give me a break......Filler? Is this a joke? You have, all next to each other, a tower that is 1280ft, 900ft, 920ft, 1000ft, 780ft, 1070ft, 1050ft, and Tishman Spire. Quit the crap and appreciate what we are getting.
You have to understand Kanto ... he's not hating. I would argue that he's a NY skyscraper fan since he cares much about what's going on in the city.
It's just that we are all hungry for a real singature tower, and HY would be the perfect location for it (no NIMBYs, vast space). Of course not every single tower can be a supertall, even Dubai has "fillers". I think we all expected or still expect a tall tower that will break the plateau.

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The North Tower is simply not tall enough to break the plateau.
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What I see in that pic is a 1000' plateau, certainly nothing to complain about. And remember there is still potential for a signature tower.
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What I see in that pic is a 1000' plateau, certainly nothing to complain about. And remember there is still potential for a signature tower.
Exactly. This development is basically downtown Moscow in one complex, and there is still potential for taller buildings.

Even with its surroundings the ~1280' North Tower will have quite an impact especially considering how wide it is.
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To me and to the city of New York, the incredible density, the massive scale of this project, the new urban habitat that is being created, etc. are much more valuable than having one 2000 footer here.
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To me and to the city of New York, the incredible density, the massive scale of this project, the new urban habitat that is being created, etc. are much more valuable than having one 2000 footer here.
Agreed, Midtown manhattan looks almost like Sao Paulo but with buildings 3 times as tall... great combination
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