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Old June 29th, 2017, 08:30 PM   #641
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Hopefully the choice of materials will reflect a transition to more traditional masonry based architecture for the residential component of Hudson Yards in the next phase.

I'd like to see what RAMSA can do there now, especially since they were one of the original architects in the proposal process:
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hopefully he's still on board. The masterplan rendering looks decidedly less stern-sy.
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are you sure it is the same architect on both images. There were like 4 different proposals?
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the first image was an evolution of Related/Oxford's initial proposal. The plan was always to use different architects. KPF had the Masterplan, 10 and 30 (later 55 after it was acquired from Extell), Diller Scofido + Renfro had 15, SOM had 35, and now Foster has 50. Stern had 2 towers and the school in phase 2 of the masterplan. For all we know, the towers in the masterplan rendering are placeholders.
The towers in those Phase II renders are almost certainly placeholders, since none of them are recognizable as belonging to the style of their respective "starchitects."

Per this keynote presentation by Stephen Ross in December, RAMSA is still doing the twin residential towers over the school...



...and there will be buildings by Frank Gehry, Bernardo Fort-Brescia of Arquitectonica, as well as a further "building" by Thomas Heatherwicke which I suspect is the small pavillion in the NW quadrant of the most recent site plan diagram. The two remaining residential towers do not have architects yet.



(This is my best understanding, although it's possible, given the vagueness in Ross' description, that Gehry is the one designing the office tower and that Arquitectonica is doing the middle twins)
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Old June 29th, 2017, 09:03 PM   #642
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The cladding on this tower is turning out very sleek and lovely, the offset from floor to floor is only just becoming apparent and I think the effect will be beautiful when finished. I wasn't originally enjoying the limestone, but that was before the glass and vents were installed, now I think the color and texture will work well with the variety of facades surrounding it.

I hope there's more material variety in the next phase of construction, but I also really hope Stern isn't involved!

Edit: Guess he is, whoops!
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Old June 29th, 2017, 09:05 PM   #643
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the entire project is turning out to be fantastic. These two towers will make a great pair.


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Old June 30th, 2017, 05:25 AM   #644
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So disappointed that they're going to ruin Hudson Yards with a Frank Gehry abomination.

He's the worst architect in the world.
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Old June 30th, 2017, 10:30 AM   #645
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So disappointed that they're going to ruin Hudson Yards with a Frank Gehry abomination.

He's the worst architect in the world.

YOU ARE the abomination!!
Frank Gehry is the Mozart of Architecture!
What makes you so frustrated and hateful when it comes to Gehry??...

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Old June 30th, 2017, 07:25 PM   #646
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I'd say he's more like Salvador Dali-fascinating, yet incomprehensible and not at all classical.
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Old June 30th, 2017, 07:47 PM   #647
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YOU ARE the abomination!!
Frank Gehry is the Mozart of Architecture!
What makes you so frustrated and hateful when it comes to Gehry??...
To be fair, I'd say Mies van der Rohe or Le Corbusier would be the "Mozart" of architecture, making Gehry the "Lizst" or "Chopin" of architecture
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Old June 30th, 2017, 08:21 PM   #648
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YOU ARE the abomination!!
Frank Gehry is the Mozart of Architecture!
What makes you so frustrated and hateful when it comes to Gehry??...
The only way to improve a Frank Gehry building is to tear it down. They are all hideous eyesores and egotistical pieces of trash ... he's terrible.

But I'll stop commenting on it in this thread starting ... (Frank Gehry Sucks) ... Now.
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Old June 30th, 2017, 08:40 PM   #649
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To be fair, I'd say Mies van der Rohe or Le Corbusier would be the "Mozart" of architecture, making Gehry the "Lizst" or "Chopin" of architecture

To each his own!...Le Corbusier is imo VERY overrated...
Gehry is the quintessential American Genius.
FL Wright is the quintessential Human Genius:the JS Bach of Architecture.


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Le Corbusier was ruinous for architecture. His ideas of placing people into monolithic blocks and destroying natural street grids have ruined cities like London and Paris. And what's worse, studies have shown that these "blocks" are so ugly that they ruin the surrounding areas and usually turn into depressing ghettos. His ideas were a monumental disaster.
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To be fair, Corby originally called for greenery around his blocks, but it was never done. Probably wouldn't have made much of a difference, though.
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To be fair, I'd say Mies van der Rohe or Le Corbusier would be the "Mozart" of architecture, making Gehry the "Lizst" or "Chopin" of architecture
Le Corbusier is more the Stravinsky. Gehry may be the Respighi.


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To be fair, Corby originally called for greenery around his blocks, but it was never done. Probably wouldn't have made much of a difference, though.
The greenery would also break up the city grids and make large areas with no retail, which is important in cities (as are parks for that matter).


I've always hated Le Corbusier.


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What's so ugly about Gehry buildings like this one?

https://ds1.cityrealty.com/img/9ceb8...-street-02.jpg
Personally, I like some of his designs a lot but I feel like they can be hit and miss, so let's hope for the best. Also, when are the final plans supposed to be released for Phase 2, and when is it expected to begin construction?
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Those rounded square, inset windows are the coolest. I love this building!
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