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Old June 6th, 2014, 07:55 PM   #161
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The model on the previous page (the one with the so-called "Tumor" version) is from a display in Las Vegas from a couple weeks ago, so we're pretty confident it's the most recent... but as some have pointed out, we're a far cry from knowing whether it's final.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 05:49 AM   #162
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I understand where you're coming from. It's less "pure" this way I suppose, but in my mind also less of a sculptural abstraction. I guess I was in the minority, but I really disliked the most stripped-down square-to-cylinder version. That felt like a pillar to me. This -- with the multiple setbacks, a clearly defined base that adheres to the rule of thirds, with the slim tower portion rising out of it -- feels like a skyscraper in the classical sense. The shapes and textures are modern, but the basic breakdown of the form would be at home in the 1920s-30s golden age of NYC skyscrapers. Ultimately, it's just a matter of what you're looking for. I prefer this because it's more formally traditional, less abstract -- but it's totally valid to prefer the opposite.
I totally agree with ur total post as well as I too understand where Citibooster is coming from. If Related goes with either designs I would not be opposed to either but my preference is the latest look. I really like it. Either way, this skyscraper will be unique to NYC and it will be a standout with or w/o that tumor. Lol.

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Old June 8th, 2014, 08:16 PM   #163
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I hear ya both, just to me the "tumor" as I kind of half jokingly refered to it just causes what would have been a masterpiece to lose its near perfection..... I know you can't see it from some angles but it was stand alone, and even with a relatively unobtrusive base a gorgeous, iconic building. I had thought that in changing the original, bottom heavy, setbacked look they wanted something sleeker and cleaner and I really came to love it. Well, even if it's built out like the model at the Las Vegas exhibition, which I'm still crossing my fingers it won't, it will still be a magnificent addition to the HY and the skyline and I really look forward to it. We'll just have to see how it plays out!
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Old June 26th, 2014, 03:24 AM   #164
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looking very different indeed.


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Old June 26th, 2014, 05:22 AM   #165
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WOW this is going to be awesome!! And that doesn't even include one of the manhattan west buildings the spire or related west yard phase two!!
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I like the heights but I hope the rest of the towers north of HY Phase 1 aren't just glass boxes.
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Old June 26th, 2014, 07:51 AM   #167
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I like the heights but I hope the rest of the towers north of HY Phase 1 aren't just glass boxes.
those are just place holders, the trending height is 700ft+ hopefully we'll get more supertalls there.
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Old June 26th, 2014, 04:37 PM   #168
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This looks bland, very bland. I know these are just placeholders but the overall site plan is a mess. The buildings are too close to each other and none of them stands out. I'd much preffer a lesser ammount of truly tall buildings than a huge ammount of shorter buildings. This site plan shows density being promoted to a truly horrific and bland level that looks more like a deep thin tectonic fault than an urban development
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This looks bland, very bland. I know these are just placeholders but the overall site plan is a mess. The buildings are too close to each other and none of them stands out. I'd much preffer a lesser ammount of truly tall buildings than a huge ammount of shorter buildings. This site plan shows density being promoted to a truly horrific and bland level that looks more like a deep thin tectonic fault than an urban development
It's making the most most out of the land by being incredibly dense, but don't foeget Hudson Boulevard which will be a long strip of parks and trees right through the centre of all this. They're also place holders; there will be some 8-900+footers there which aren't in the render, don't forget the Hudson Spire and many more to come...
There will most likely not be a plato here to the left of the render in real life.

It's also down to the angle of the photo as well; one reason why the taller buildings don't stand out so much is because midtown rises above the Hudson Yards in the photo

Here I very badly cropped out midtown from the render, and Hudson Yards looks a lot better, which really shows what it will look like:

[IMG]http://i60.************/245gb3n.png[/IMG]

Also, has this had another design change? The edges from the bottom appear to taper right towards the top with the sides looking flatter... Well the west side does anyway
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Old June 26th, 2014, 06:13 PM   #170
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This looks bland, very bland. I know these are just placeholders but the overall site plan is a mess. The buildings are too close to each other and none of them stands out. I'd much preffer a lesser ammount of truly tall buildings than a huge ammount of shorter buildings. This site plan shows density being promoted to a truly horrific and bland level that looks more like a deep thin tectonic fault than an urban development
As you say these are just placeholders. It makes it look as boxy as avenue of the americas around 48th st. Which will not be the case due to how the blocks are currently broken up as you can see here. Or in the rendering of 470 11th ave. I expect we will have quite a mix of heights and architectural styles here.



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Old June 26th, 2014, 06:40 PM   #171
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Silverstein Properties... 1100 feet? Looking forward to that one!
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I've lived to see Kanto think something is bland... what has the world come to.
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Old June 26th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #173
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At first sight, the facade remembers a bee hive. The model shows the look of supertall's facade like made of wire. The rest, including the shape of the Equinox seems conventional. I guess this balance of daring and classic will bring a appropriate renewal of midtown for me.
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Silverstein Properties... 1100 feet? Looking forward to that one!
Yeah that's the conjoined twin towers: http://newyorkyimby.com/category/514-eleventh-avenue

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There is yet another new design for 35 HY! It also appears that 50 HY has grown again and is now around 365m.

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Yeah that's the conjoined twin towers: http://newyorkyimby.com/category/514-eleventh-avenue

Love the facade on that. Reminds me of the Twin Towers.
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There is yet another new design for 35 HY! It also appears that 50 HY has grown again and is now around 365m.

50HY does appear to be above 30HYs observation deck in that render!

And I mentioned that earlier, glad it's not only me who's noticed what appears to be a design changed, it seems to have flatter sides with rounded off edges that sort of twist around the tower as it tapers... sort of like a tapering Shanghai Tower
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Old June 27th, 2014, 01:48 PM   #178
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Amazing cluster, but I hope it won't be glass alone.
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Love the facade on that. Reminds me of the Twin Towers.
Reminds me a whole lot more of the Ion Center in Chicago. Take it from a person who worked in One World Trade Center.
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Could it be 84 floors now for this tower??? The Latest Models that we all had seen indicates that the height of this tower is almost on par with 30 Hudson Yards OD @ 1080'

Some details about this tower...

Beam by Beam, a Mega-Project Grows
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And, the platform-supported eastern half will feature 35 Hudson Yards, an 84-story tower by David Childs of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, which will be layered with a mix of condos, hotel rooms, and offices. Unlike most of the other planned high-rises, its facade will be stone.

The site will also have shops, in the form of a seven-level mall similar to what Related built at the Time Warner Center.
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