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Old September 3rd, 2013, 06:54 AM   #61
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 11:08 AM   #62
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Good old Dora-trains. Not every lamp inside the train is lit and it seems as if metro does not run with top speed, do they have energy-saving modus for this metro?

Stations are huge, must have been very diffiicult to build those in that depth. Somehow I heard that this metro is the world deepest concerning tunnels, but it´s hard to get serious information about this. Kiev Arsenal-station holds the flag, beeing the deepest still.

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I must say that the stations look pretty cool
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Old September 4th, 2013, 12:16 PM   #64
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Any pictures of the Pyongyang tram system? It's like a time-warp into 1950s Czechoslovakia. Or of main line trains and trolleybuses for that matter.

The video seems to be the same two-stop ride that everyone does? I'm pretty sure foreigners aren't actually allowed to do anything else.
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Old September 4th, 2013, 01:42 PM   #65
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I do notice some more colorful clothes than in previous metro videos from NK. Did that actually change, or are these just actors put to work to make it seem more 'modern' and 'normal'?
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Any pictures of the Pyongyang tram system? It's like a time-warp into 1950s Czechoslovakia. Or of main line trains and trolleybuses for that matter.

The video seems to be the same two-stop ride that everyone does? I'm pretty sure foreigners aren't actually allowed to do anything else.
Foreigners living in NK can if the reports are true. The problem is that no one seems to be able to get videos of the second line of the Pyongyang metro. Apparently, from reports, it isn't as ornate and nice as the one that everyone sees.
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... or are these just actors put to work to make it seem more 'modern' and 'normal'?
I would definitely suspect this. For touristic purposes, North Korea is possibly the largest theatre in the world.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 12:29 PM   #68
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I would definitely suspect this. For touristic purposes, North Korea is possibly the largest theatre in the world.
This is more or less an impossible debate because none of us have a clue. What we can note is that without a subway a city of that size would have a hard time to get people to work. And in the end, even north koreans are humans - not machines.

And there are western people living freely there, for example personnel of embassies and a few professors at the university. Surley they would have reported about it.

For a report about an independent trip to Pyongyang take a look here: http://vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.se/
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Old September 6th, 2013, 11:48 PM   #69
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What you mean they're living freely? Nobody does there!
Words 'freely' and 'North Korea' dont match.
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i wonder what it would feel like to be in North Korea, as an expat especially those embassy men and proffesor...

but i do notice from several videos on youtube that people in Pyongyang actually travel everywhere on foot and that the street are void of car, makes me wonder if that metro are actually are used for good or is it just one stage.... well since there are almost nothing there, there's no need to go anywhere but to the nearest shopping centre or the youth hangout place... or their workplace...
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Well, if there are hardly any cars, that is actually an argument for the Metro being really of use rather than not, as part of a dominating public transportation network. If no motorized options were available people would not walk on long distances but take a bike. So if there were no functioning PT network, you would have to see a lot more bikes on the streets than you do. Just think of Copenhagen, where one third of the ways are done by bike. The streets are fulll of them, everywhere.
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probably a mass murder, they forced the citizen to work 24/7 without a paycheck
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Did you see that the poor girl got hit by the guy filming that at 0:47? Poor girl!
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Yes, I did. Probably to resolutely maintain their anonymity, I notice clumsy Utoob filmers not necessarily apologizing plus he still kept charging across that platform for 'perfect' footage.
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i wonder what it would feel like to be in North Korea, as an expat especially those embassy men and proffesor...

but i do notice from several videos on youtube that people in Pyongyang actually travel everywhere on foot and that the street are void of car, makes me wonder if that metro are actually are used for good or is it just one stage.... well since there are almost nothing there, there's no need to go anywhere but to the nearest shopping centre or the youth hangout place... or their workplace...
If feels boring as hell! Embassies, int'l organizations, NGOs, and their staff housing are usually located in Munsu-dong, a complex consisting of three streets, walled from the rest of the neighborhood. The exceptions are the embassies of Russia and China, which are located downtown, and the embassy of Brazil, which was located in a government guest house. There was a place called the Random access club, plus a number of government run clubs catering for foreigners. As far as other expats are concerned there is a number of foreign businessmen, students, and a handful of university lecturers from abroad. Contrary to the public belief, there is a considerable number of cars in Pyongyang.
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Old November 23rd, 2013, 02:32 PM   #78
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Good old Dora-trains. Not every lamp inside the train is lit and it seems as if metro does not run with top speed, do they have energy-saving modus for this metro?

Stations are huge, must have been very diffiicult to build those in that depth. Somehow I heard that this metro is the world deepest concerning tunnels, but it´s hard to get serious information about this. Kiev Arsenal-station holds the flag, beeing the deepest still.

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Yes, they are saving energy, so trolley-buses, trams and metro trains run at very slow speed, in order not to overload the grid, because voltage tends to be very unbalanced. Tourists are taken to the two newest stations, opened in 1897, which are far more ornate than the rest.
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Old November 23rd, 2013, 02:39 PM   #79
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This is more or less an impossible debate because none of us have a clue. What we can note is that without a subway a city of that size would have a hard time to get people to work. And in the end, even north koreans are humans - not machines.

And there are western people living freely there, for example personnel of embassies and a few professors at the university. Surley they would have reported about it.

For a report about an independent trip to Pyongyang take a look here: http://vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.se/
Fair enough! Tourist visits to the metro are not prearranged, and passengers are ordinary commuters. Bear in mind that the standard of living in Pyongyang is far higher than in rest of the country, and it can easily match that of an average Chinese city.
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Fair enough! Tourist visits to the metro are not prearranged, and passengers are ordinary commuters. Bear in mind that the standard of living in Pyongyang is far higher than in rest of the country, and it can easily match that of an average Chinese city.
From what we've heard the current gen of the Kim dynasty has done a good job of sprucing up downtown Pyongyang, adding some stores, hotels, even malls, with stuff for the North Korean elites & the tourists.

But you can be sure nothing much gets down to the villages & the rural areas.
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