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Old April 16th, 2013, 01:17 AM   #1201
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There was a similar uphill battle to get turbo-props/Porter set up at Billy Bishop. Most, including myself, didn't think it would get approved. I'm hopeful of a repeat experience. Despite only 7 in favour, the 20 undecided likely represent councillors who are open to reason and rational arguments.

Porter has been a success and Torontonians seem to have very positive things to say about having a downtown airport. Pearson is expensive and many would welcome having more destination options out of Billy Bishop... which jets would make possible. If the Porter statement that the new jets wouldn't be noisier than the turbo props is accurate, the only real issue is runway expansion. Honestly, I can't see what valid reason there might be for saying no, but we'll just have to watch it play out.

I don't think local politicians think about the broader implications for Canada by supporting Bombardier, but the benefit is obviously there. It's my hope that the 20 undecided will see the bigger picture: increased air connections for Toronto, a stronger Toronto based Porter, more jobs at Billy Bishop, and helping our biggest aerospace manufacturer.

It should be noted that there has been an airport there for decades while the condos are new. I'm not oblivious to local concerns, but you don't move into an area then try to shut down industry that already exists there. It's absurd. If these people wanted peace and quiet, they shouldn't pick the centre of the biggest metropolis in the country in which to live.
Sadly, the NIMBY concept still reigns on some people who want to live close to the city and desire to have suburb-like conditions of total peace and quiet each and every night. I even wonder: why were those condominiums built near there in the first place when it could potentially attract NIMBY activists? I don't know what gives with those people who oppose an airport expansion because it will bring much more noise later on while the impacts could be limited.
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Cheap American flights threaten Canadian airport business
Aviation conference weighs problem of travellers avoiding Canadian airports
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Posted: May 3, 2013 9:32 AM CT

The promise of cheaper flights is driving many Canadians across the border to U.S. airports — costing millions of dollars in lost revenue in Canada — but the federal government says it won't subsidize air travel.

The trend of more Canadians flying out of the United States is disconcerting to Canada's aviation industry, which is calling on the federal government to do something to lure back those travellers.

"What we really need to do is get airports, airlines and government in the room together to develop a new national air travel strategy," said Daniel-Robert Gooch of the Canadian Airports Council.

He and other people in the aviation industry were in Winnipeg this week for the Western Canadian Aviation Forum, a conference paying close attention to the problem of air travellers taking their business elsewhere.

"It's a growing problem," said Senator Dennis Dawson, chairman of the Senate transport and communications committee.
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"It has been a problem for a few years, but every year it grows by about 15, 20 per cent, so that means it is revenue lost for Canada. When you have over five million Canadians flying out of American airports, it's more people than are flying out of the fifth biggest airport in Canada," he said.

"These people are developing a habit of going to American airports, [and] all of these airports are growing to the detriment of your local airport. The reality is there have been estimates of thousands of jobs lost [in Canada]."

Manitoba is one of the provinces seeing the exodus of travellers. Close to half the cars in the parking lot at the Grand Forks International Airport have Manitoba license plates these days.

Victor Matos, Melodie Ralph and their family saved more than $1,000 by flying to Orlando through the North Dakota city instead of leaving from Winnipeg.

"We have a lot of friends that do it, and do it regularly, like once [or] twice a month, going to Florida and other sun destinations right out of here," Matos told CBC News at the Grand Forks airport.

Geography blamed

Ralph said if they found a cheaper alternative in Winnipeg, they'd take it. But so far, there isn't one because of "all those extra surcharges and taxes and fees that are added on," she said.

"We like to travel; we love to travel," Ralph said.

"We are going to find the most economical way to do that. If that means driving an hour and half to Grand Forks to save a thousand dollars, that's what that means."

The reason for the vast price differences in the U.S. and Canada has much to do with geography, said Dawson.

"We are a smaller market dispersed on a bigger country. That is not something easy to deal with but in addition to that, the government has imposed rents on airports," he said.

"The government is making money out of security taxes for CATSA [Canadian Air Transport Security Authority]. They shouldn't be making money out of security taxes. All of those are costs the government can control."

Additionally, unlike in Canada, the U.S. government picks up security costs rather than pass them down. It also does not charge rent to airports for the lands they sit on.

Air industry officials say the fees charged on this side of the border make Canadian airports uncompetitive and are driving passengers south at a loss of $2.3 billion a year.

"We have to look at the fees and taxes that are levied on travellers in Canada," said Gooch.

Lower rates, fees, says senator

A new federal strategy is needed so Canada can better compete with American airlines and airports, Dawson said, and that starts with addressing the rents airports pay, as well as other fees and charges added onto airline tickets.

"They can lower the rates of rents. They should. They should abolish them completely but, at best, let's ask them to lower them," he said.

"These fees are one of the biggest impediments that can easily be controlled. We can't make our country smaller, and we can't get 10 million people more.

"If we lower those, we'll encourage people to fly out of Canada."

But Steven Fletcher, Canada's minister of state for transport, said he doesn't think taxpayers' money should go towards subsidizing people's flights.

"Why would a Canadian taxpayer want to subsidize a trip to the Caribbean? Because that's essentially what is being argued," Fletcher said on Friday, after he met with aviation industry stakeholders.

"That's not what happens in Canada. That's what happens in the United States. But in Canada … you use it and you pay for it, and no tax dollars go into it."

Canada's air industry is based on the "user-pay principle," meaning taxpayers do not subsidize air travel in Canada, and those who fly pay for the system.

"Our government will continue to keep taxes and fees as low as possible, while ensuring the ongoing sustainability of our airports," a government spokesperson told CBC News in an email.

The spokesperson added that Ottawa recently made it mandatory for airlines to advertise all-inclusive airfares that include taxes, fees and surcharges.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 11:58 PM   #1203
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Old July 5th, 2013, 03:09 PM   #1204
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WestJet's passenger traffic up 8% in June
Growth may not be enough to outpace capacity increase, analyst says
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Posted: Jul 4, 2013 11:24 AM ET

Despite reservation cancellations and a drop in advance bookings caused by floods in Alberta, WestJet reported an eight per cent increase in passenger traffic for the month of June over the same period last year.

The Calgary-based airline's seat capacity also increased in that time — by a little more than 11 per cent — and that resulted in a drop in its load factor, which measures how full the airline's flights are overall.

The load factor for June was 76.8 per cent, compared to 79 per cent in June 2012.

Almost nine million people flew on Canada's second-largest airline since the start of the year, an increase of 5.7 per cent over the first six months of 2012.

"We continued to be pleased with our strong year-over-year traffic growth," said the airline's president and CEO, Gregg Saretsky.

But Walter Spracklin of RBC Capital Markets warned that the growth might not be enough to outpace the rise in capacity. The 8.3 per cent uptick in passenger traffic in June fell short of the analyst's forecast of 10 per cent.

"We are seeing the largest capacity uptick from WestJet since the first quarter of 2011, leading to what we believe will be continued pressure on yields and RASM (revenues per available seat mile)," Spracklin wrote in a report cited by The Canadian Press.

June also saw the launch of WestJet's regional carrier, WestJet Encore, with inaugural flights taking off June 24 from Calgary to four B.C. destinations and to Saskatoon. WestJet will add Brandon, Man., to Encore's serviced routes later this summer.
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Old July 5th, 2013, 10:16 PM   #1205
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Old July 6th, 2013, 12:13 AM   #1206
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Sharp, modern looking cabin, especially business. Economy looks super cramped though.
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So they've adopted Emirates' 3-4-3 seating ... how did they push in that extra 1 seat?
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By using narrower seats with narrower aisles of course. These seats are 1.5" narrower and also have less 1" less legroom than their older 77W layout.
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I'm getting rid of my Aeroplan points and avoiding Air Canada once and for all!
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I'm getting rid of my Aeroplan points and avoiding Air Canada once and for all!
Might be prudent, but it seems to be the direction all north american carriers are going, 17-17.5" seats at 31" pitch in economy. Most European carriers too, I guess one should try and fly with Asian or a couple of the Middle Eastern carriers. I have found United's economy plus to have really decent personal space for the amount of extra expenditure, but their cabin service is kind of spotty.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 05:26 AM   #1211
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WestJet warns on outlook but optimistic on costs

TORONTO, July 30 (Reuters) - WestJet Airlines Ltd posted a slightly higher-than-expected quarterly profit on Tuesday but warned that a key measure of airline efficiency would decline in the near term as it launches its Encore regional carrier.

Canada's No. 2 airline said revenue per available seat mile (RASM) fell 4.6 percent in the second quarter and would show a similar drop in the current quarter. But it cut its costs in the latest quarter and issued an improved cost outlook.

WestJet reduced its estimate for cost per available seat mile for the full year, excluding fuel and employee profit-sharing costs. It now expects a decline of 0.5 percent to 1 percent, compared with a prior forecast of flat to up 1 percent.

"On the positive side of the ledger, investors will be comforted by the solid cost-control efforts," Walter Spracklin, an analyst with RBC Dominion Securities Inc, said in a note. "On the negative side are the declines in yields and RASM..."

Competition among Canadian airlines is ramping up, with Air Canada, the country's largest airline, boosting capacity with the launch of its Rouge airline this summer. The new low-cost carrier is aimed at high-volume leisure travel in the Caribbean, United States and other international markets.

WestJet executives said Encore would add value over time, even though the launch of the regional carrier would mean lower efficiency for the company overall in the near term.

WestJet shares were up 5 Canadian cents at C$20.18 in afternoon trading in Toronto.

LOAD FACTOR FALLS

The Calgary, Alberta-based company said load factor, the percentage of available seats filled with paying customers, fell to 79.4 percent in the second quarter from 81.6 percent a year earlier.

It said the introduction of larger, higher-priced premium economy seats next month should give revenue per seat a lift in the second half.

Analysts said they were encouraged by the company's expectations that capacity growth would slow next year, to a range of 4 to 6 percent.

Net income in the second quarter rose to C$44.7 million ($43.5 million), or 34 Canadian cents per share, from C$42.5 million, or 31 Canadian cents per share, a year earlier.

Analysts on average had expected 33 Canadian cents per share.

Revenue increased 4.3 percent to C$843.7 million.

Executives said bookings in June and July experienced some weakness due to flooding in Calgary, Alberta. The impact was estimated at C$6 million to C$10 million.

Executives at WestJet, which is not unionized, said they were addressing employee concerns following media reports of a unionization drive by flight attendants.

One potential issue is that the company is set to open new bases in other cities beyond its Calgary headquarters, which could affect where staff are based.

"Change is going on at WestJet, creating a certain level of uncertainty," Chief Executive Gregg Saretsky said during a conference call with analysts. "We are trying to get that uncertainty behind us as quickly as possible."
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Air Canada studying Bombardier's CSeries jet

BRAMPTON, Ontario, Aug 20 (Reuters) - Air Canada is studying Bombardier Inc's new CSeries jetliner carefully as it focuses on deciding by the end of the year which narrow-body jets to purchase for its fleet, the airline's chief executive said on Tuesday.

"It's a big, big decision because it's more than 100 airplanes total," CEO Calin Rovinescu told reporters at the opening of a new operations center near Toronto's Pearson International Airport.

Bombardier expects the single-aisle CSeries, with up to 160 seats, to make its first test flight sometime in the next few months and to be in service about a year later.

It is the first all-new narrow-bodied jetliner in decades and will challenge top-selling Boeing 737 and Airbus A320 aircraft.

A big purchase by Air Canada would do much to bolster the CSeries' disappointing order book.

Montreal-based Bombardier had announced 177 firm CSeries orders by late July, well short of its target of at least 300 firm orders by the middle of next year. It failed to firm up new business at this summer's Paris Air Show even as its competitors announced big orders.
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For the most part, Billy Bishop is limited to business jets, light aircraft, and turboprops due to allowed decibel levels and runway length. There are 44 Ward Councillors plus the mayor, so 23 must vote in favour of the airport improvement (runway lengthening).

17 came out against the expansion, 7 are in favour, and the rest undecided. Toronto City Council typically shows a similar pattern. About 35-40% of City Council tend to vote down most large scale development; often without even looking at a proposal. They want Toronto to resemble the city of their youth and fight proposals that would alter their notion of what Toronto should be.

I suppose every city has these types that want their home town frozen in time, but it gets a little tiring when they tie up the development of the city for their own selfish reasons.
Toronto could probably use 2nd airport, but the solution isnt Billy Bishop.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 11:58 AM   #1214
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Toronto could probably use 2nd airport, but the solution isnt Billy Bishop.
I agree that Billy Bishop can only grow so large, but that limit is quite far off still. This airport should be allowed to reach its potential along with the airlines using it. That means being able to handle planes that can fly to the West coast. Currently, flying to western Canada from this airport is not possible because the runway is too short to handle the planes needed for long haul flights. That hampers the airport and Porter Airlines primarily.

I believe there is land set aside to the east in Pickering for a 2nd full scale international airport if/when it is needed. To the west, there's also Munro in Hamilton. Both could one day become large international airports servicing the Golden Horseshoe.

Pearson could likely handle double its current PAX if all the terminal expansion phases become reality.
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WestJet to purchase 65 Boeing 737 MAX aircraft

TORONTO, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Canada's WestJet Airlines Ltd said on Thursday it has reached a preliminary agreement to purchase 65 737 MAX aircraft from Boeing Co, moving to expand its fleet with more fuel-efficient aircraft.

The 737 MAX series is due to enter production in 2015, with deliveries to customers starting in 2017. It is the latest version of Boeing's top-selling 737 jet, which has been in production for more than four decades.

The narrow-body 737 MAX is set to compete with the A320neo made by Airbus. Boeing said in May it expects the craft to burn 13 percent less fuel than current 737 models.

Calgary-based WestJet said it plans to buy 40 of the 737 MAX 8 aircraft and 25 of the smaller 737 MAX 7 planes, with delivery to begin in September 2017. The MAX 8 will accommodate between 162 and 175 passengers, while the MAX 7 will fit 126 to 140 passengers.

WestJet also said that 15 of its existing Next-Generation 737 aircraft orders, currently scheduled for delivery between December 2014 and 2018, will be filled by 737 MAX aircraft instead.

Including the new orders, WestJet's future Boeing 737 aircraft deliveries total 92. WestJet's current fleet consists of 103 Boeing Next-Generation 737s and four Bombardier Inc Q400 NextGen aircraft.

WestJet expects to sign a final purchase agreement for the 737 MAX aircraft before the end of September.

The airline said it now expects capital expenditures to range between C$210 million and C$220 million for the third quarter of 2013, and between C$690 million and C$710 million for the full-year. It previously forecast C$100 million to C$110 million for the third quarter and C$610 million to C$630 million for the full year.

WestJet's move comes as competition among Canadian airlines is heating up, with Air Canada, the country's largest airline, boosting capacity with the launch of its Rouge airline this summer. Rouge, a low-cost carrier, is aimed at high-volume leisure travel heading to the Caribbean, the United States and other international markets.

WestJet itself recently launched Encore, a regional carrier aimed at competing head-to-head with Air Canada on some routes to smaller cities and towns where Canada's biggest airline has enjoyed a monopoly.
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SkyTeam plans to soon start trialling its LCC partnership platform with Canada’s WestJet

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SkyTeam plans to soon start trialling its LCC partnership platform with Canada’s WestJet in Vancouver. SkyTeam Connect is designed to facilitate connections with several members in a particular market. The intention is not for the affiliated LCC to work with all members but only those carriers interested in participating – typically members which serve the selected market.

All six SkyTeam carriers that serve Vancouver are participating. If successful, the product could be extended to other Canadian hub airports. But it is not expected to include the entire WestJet network.

With Canada’s only main full-service carrier, Air Canada, in Star, there are limited options for offline connections for airlines outside Star. WestJet is a logical candidate for an alliance’s LCC platform as it has hybridised and has already started codesharing or interlining with several foreign carriers, recognising the opportunities to work with non-Star carriers and improve yields.

SkyTeam Connect is not exclusive so WestJet can also continue to work with oneworld members and unaligned carriers. It could even potentially become affiliated with oneworld if the alliance decides to follow SkyTeam and now Star in developing its own LCC/hybrid platform.

The new Star platform will likely be similar to SkyTeam Connect. The idea is to bring in as partners LCCs and hybrid carriers which are not interested in joining the alliance but would add value by providing connections and feed.
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Looks like a much better cabin than their high density 77W, not as cramped and really clean , stylish cabins. Gotta imagine the reverse herringbone business class is gonna be popular with the high dollar travelers.
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AC orders B737Max for future narrowbody fleet!!

Honestly didn't see this coming... was pretty sure Airbus was going to win order. YYZ will now have a heavy Boeing presence.
Potential for 109 total frames if all options etc. are taken up.

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TORONTO • Air Canada has made a multi-billion dollar deal for new narrowbody planes that will see its fleet dominated by Boeing Co.’s aircraft.

The airline said Wednesday it will purchase 61 of Boeing’s new 737 MAX aircraft to replace its aging fleet of larger Airbus narrowbody aircraft, in a deal valued at US$6.5-billion based on list price.
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The firm order is for 33 737 MAX 8 and 28 737 MAX 9 aircraft with substitution rights between them as well as for the 737 MAX 7 aircraft. It carries the options and purchase rights for 48 additional aircraft.
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Deliveries are scheduled to begin in 2017 with two aircraft, and then ramp up in the following four years, the company said.

The news is a significant win for Boeing over its rival Airbus. The 737 MAX is a re-engined version of its popular narrow-body aircraft aimed at the 150-seat plus segment.

The 737 MAX 8 seats 162 passengers in a typical, two-class configuration, while the 737 MAX 9 seats 180.
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