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Old November 23rd, 2010, 08:20 AM   #501
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They should keep that height it works well but put the spire in the center and have two sides slant like that, also that podium is abnoxious Id be surprised if that didnt change by the time its being built.
this person is clearly trolling, it's obvious that putting the spire in the middle would be the ugliest thing they can do.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:44 PM   #502
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no........
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Old March 28th, 2011, 01:26 AM   #503
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Any news in the last 5 months? Quite a gap if this is really a likely proposal. I know in Miami things are slowly picking up from our shamelful crash, partially due to forein developers (Swire) who are not affected by our bad economy. I'd rather be in a city like Philadelphia if it wasn't cold.
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Old March 28th, 2011, 04:53 AM   #504
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Old March 28th, 2011, 05:19 AM   #505
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Foul ball, base hit, ground ball, they dropped the ball, they like baseball in Philly, what is that supossed to mean?

Or is that some of best dslr work you're showing off, it's great
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Old March 29th, 2011, 09:36 PM   #506
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This needs to be built...anyone know anything about its future?
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Old March 30th, 2011, 12:56 PM   #507
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yea I'm also curious about this one Philly really needs his one.
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Old March 30th, 2011, 01:38 PM   #508
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I did a quick google search for new information in the past few months regarding this building; it turned up nothing. It seems this project is stuck in the same quagmire it's been in for years: no potential tenants. This project will never break ground unless a major tenant makes a serious commitment to occupy this building.

This project is a microcosm of a bigger problem Philadelphia has had for decades: a lack of jobs. The city just can't attract companies to open up shop within city limits, especially Center City. It truly is baffling; Center City is one of the densest downtowns in the United States. Also, the Philly metro area has the 9th highest GDP by urban area in the world (#4 in the US)! But most of the money and jobs are outside the city.
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Old March 30th, 2011, 08:44 PM   #509
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Philadelphia city councils should try to offer companies a tax break or package only if they're willing to relocate to its downtown from its suburbs or other cities/states. Some cities including Seattle did that and it works for them. Philadelphia should try that too.
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Old March 30th, 2011, 09:49 PM   #510
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The status of this is really proposed? As in it has never been approved yet?
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Old August 27th, 2011, 01:29 AM   #511
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American Commerce Center Is Dead



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Another Comcast tower in Center City?


The Comcast building on the Philly skyline. (Clem Murray / Staff Photographer)

A buyer affiliated with Liberty Property Trust on Aug. 3 paid $40 million for the lot at 1800 Arch St., ending a longshot proposal by developers to build what would have been the tallest building in Center City Philadelphia.

Seller Multi Employers Property Trust, a union pension investment fund, had paid $32 million in 2007. "We're glad MEPT made a nice profit," David Richter, head of Marlton-based Hill International Group's real estate affiliate, which had hoped to develop a 1,500-foot tower on the site, told me. "We would have preferred they hold onto the property. I think we're getting close to the end of the recession. But MEPT got a good offer, for the best piece of property in Center City."

Hopeful brokers I talked to said a likely occupant for a new building on that site would be its neighbor, Comcast Corp., whose Liberty-built and -managed Comcast Center headquarters, at nearly 1,000 feet, is Philadelphia's highest building. Comcast is looking for space and has leased parts of the former CoreStates and Bell Atlantic headquarters towers.

But it's not clear that Comcast would spend $50 a square foot for new construction, when existing Philadelphia office space is available at half that price. Comcast doesn't need the 700,000+ sq ft a big tower would create, and it would be tough to finance such a large project without other tenants.

Comcast has acquired plenty of legacy NBC Universal office space in other cities, such as 30 Rockefeller Center in Manhattan (though Philly brokers are hoping Comcast could move back-office NBC operations in North Jersey down here). Comcast already controls a site on its headquarters block that could accomodate maybe a 20-story tower, if it wants to build.

That leaves open the possibility that a Liberty financial partner is looking at Comcast or another potential tenant long-term, and sees this as a chance to control the site. Liberty held the site of Comcast's current headquarters a block away for years until the company was ready to commit.

The site doesn't fit Liberty's recent deals. With few big companies hiring or needing office space, Liberty has been selling office sites and buying warehouses.

But some large corporations are using the depressed property and construction market to update home offices on the cheap. For example, PNC Financial Service Group this summer announced a new 40-story headquarters in its native Pittsburgh.

A new tower would give Philadelphia contractors and construction workers relief from the three-year slump, especially since work ended on the Pennsylvania Convention Center expansion and Brandywine Realty Trust's 30th St. Post Office conversion earlier this year.

Hill plans to concentrate its future development energies on "hotel properties on the West Coast, resort properties in the Caribbean, and low-cost housing in the Third World," Richter told me. The former tower plan, dubbed American Commerce Center, was proposed four years ago by developer Joseph Grasso and promoter Garrett Miller. Hill replaced Grasso in the group two years ago. Miller left Hill in July and joined Matthew McManus' NAI Bluestone commercial real estate loan brokerage group.

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What will replace ACC at the site may be a tower half as tall containing maybe 50 stories of office space. Sad to see ACC disappear but life goes on...
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Old August 27th, 2011, 11:00 PM   #512
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Dead huh well I can't really say that I'm surprised.
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Old August 27th, 2011, 11:05 PM   #513
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I really wish this had gone through... So should we change the title to Cancelled and move it somewhere else?
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Old August 27th, 2011, 11:08 PM   #514
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Definitely.
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Old August 27th, 2011, 11:11 PM   #515
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It's sad... I remember the days when wikipedia said that "the American Commerce Center, which would be third on the list (behind Chicago Spire and 1 World Trade Center)" was on the list of America's tallest buildings. 1WTC is the only surviving skyscraper from that time period... I hope Philly gets something about or almost this tall in the near future though...
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Old August 27th, 2011, 11:12 PM   #516
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I was hoping Philly would get a supertall. It would have been nice to see in person.
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Old August 27th, 2011, 11:37 PM   #517
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Wow, these ambitious projects are really doomed. This is rather grim news for projects like the Chicago 2000 footer
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Old August 27th, 2011, 11:55 PM   #518
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Not really. There hasn't been any really news, about this building in years. And the recession hit right after it went public. The project in Chicago is pretty new but I wouldn't put to much stock in it.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 08:22 AM   #519
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The ACC was one of my favorite supertall proposals, and an American one to boot. I always held out hope for it, and I am saddened to see its demise.
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Old September 7th, 2011, 12:58 AM   #520
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Sad to see this one go down, that too while I am visiting Philly! I sure hope that it comes back in some form or the other. At this rate, it looks like the only supertall action in the US, in the foreseeable future, would be in NYC.
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