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Old November 2nd, 2011, 10:47 PM   #541
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Phoenix should try building a 500 footer before building an 1000 footer


I believe Chicago could pull another off this decade, we may not know of it yet.

San Francisco will also build one.

So that's LA, Miami, San Fran, Chicago and NYC who could/will build supertalls in the near future.
I'm sure Chicago could build many supertalls if they didn't all get cancelled
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Old January 4th, 2012, 02:16 AM   #542
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I am very disappointed that the American Commerce Tower proposal was cancelled. It was going to be the pinnacle of Philadelphia's skyline. But I guess 1500 ft (472 m) is probably a bit too high for Philadelphia. Maybe if I designed a similar building to it, I would have cut the skybridge which connects it to a hotel (and either let the hotel become a standalone building or scrap it altogether) and reduced the height to around 1,200 ft (366 m) (but retain the same number of floors).
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Old September 12th, 2013, 11:52 PM   #543
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PHILADELPHIA | Comcast Innovation and Technology Center | 342m | 1121ft | 59 fl | Pro










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Comcast Rumored To Be Adding New Tower, Foster+Partners To Be Architects

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Rumor has it that an expansion to the Comcast HQ is in the works: though Liberty Property Trust has responded with cool "no comments" to questions about the fate of 1800 Arch Street, the architect they've picked is now public knowledge: the Pritzker Prize winning London architects Foster + Partners.

Right after Comcast purchased NBC, Liberty Property Trust purchased the lot at 1800 Arch. Though the Comcast tower is responsible for breaking the curse of Billy Penn, the very same curse was brought upon the city by Liberty Property Trust when they built One Liberty Place taller than the tip of William Penn's hat (491 feet to be exact).

When the Comcast Center was finished in 2008, workers added a small figurine of Philly's founder to the top of the tower, restoring his tri-corner hat to its original prominence. Will the rumored partnership between LPT and Comcast once again upstage William Penn?

This site is one of the hottest in town and Comcast building a second skyscraper has been rumored for some time. This may be a significant new tower for Philadelphia. Details and changes as they arrive...

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Old September 13th, 2013, 10:21 PM   #544
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hopefully significant enough in height to be seen in this skyline.
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Old September 13th, 2013, 11:13 PM   #545
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Old September 18th, 2013, 04:58 AM   #546
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What Could Norman Foster Bring to Philadelphia?

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News broke last week that world-renowned architecture firm Foster + Partners has been commissioned for a potential new skyscraper on a narrow lot at 18th & Arch Streets -- a promising move that could implant a modern masterpiece into Philadelphia's skyline.

Knighted "the Mozart of modernism" by The New Yorker's architecture critic Paul Goldberger, famed architect Norman Foster's buildings famously intertwine classical elements of nature with the form and functionality of progressive high-rise design. With any luck, Foster might soon be on his way to Philadelphia, so Curbed brings you an international map of the firm's finest work to offer a sense of his style and potential vision for Center City.




The lot in question happens to be the site of the once-greenlighted American Commerce Center, which would have topped out at a grandiose 1,510 feet and brought Philadelphia to the forefront of the international high-rise scene. The ACC fell apart alongside the economic collapse in 2008, and the project's gravesite has been used as surface parking for the past several years.


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While it's far too early to know exactly what will develop at this site, this is undoubtedly one of
the most exciting architectural developments for Philadelphia in recent memory.


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Old September 18th, 2013, 10:42 PM   #547
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RIP American Commerce Center almost forgot you
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Looking Back at 15 Proposed Towers that Bit the Dust



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It's been less than 30 years since One Liberty Place overtook William Penn's statue atop City Hall as the highest point above Philadelphia. Our city has seen its fair share of high-rise development since the mid-1980s, but imagine how it would look if zoning issues, financing woes, and a sputtering economy were never factors in the skyline's evolution.

Sure, the newly approved FMC Tower in University City and the rumors of a Norman Foster supertall to accompany the Comcast Center are exciting, but their potential impact on the skyline doesn't come close to these 15 failed proposals, many of which were killed off when the housing bubble burst in 2008...

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This increasing chatter about a supertall at 1800 Arch St. has me thinking it's time to move this thread a notch up. Rival sites are being taken over by residential development which leaves room for this project to grow in size and scope. Is a supertall possible or even likely? American Commerce Center only lacked a tenant, not financing...
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Old November 26th, 2013, 03:16 AM   #549
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I certainly find it encouraging that the other major office project in Philly, Cira Center South Tower recently got an anchor tenant, so there's definitely demand starting to build.
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Old November 26th, 2013, 04:01 AM   #550
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If it's Foster then it's going to be good!
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American Commerce Center only lacked a tenant, not financing...
That's essentially the same thing isn't it? A tenant pays for the space, thus financing the tower in part.
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Construction financing, not profit.
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That's essentially the same thing isn't it? A tenant pays for the space, thus financing the tower in part.
The financing was in place for ACC but contingent on a major tenant signing on. Most tower developments don't have financing ready to go like that. They announce and open a leasing office with hopes to then go to a lender with enough lease commitments to obtain financing. On the other hand, office towers in the US are sometimes built on spec but those tend to be smaller, more easily managed projects. The problem ACC had was it was just too big in a market with very few companies of the size needed to get it over the line. The reputation and deep cash position of Comcast would make financing this new tower a mere formality.

As for the tenant "Paying for the space in part", what usually happens is a lease is signed with rent payments deferred until the tower is delivered ready for occupancy. At that point, tenants usually rush to build out the space and move in since they are now making payments. But these are leases not sales so there's no significant down payment, just a deposit (that should be placed in escrow and not used toward the costs of building) which can be structured any number ways (1-6 months rent) depending on the desirability of the tenant. And as a sweetener to get a major lease signed that triggers financing, anchor tenants can win free build outs (getting much rarer) or free rent until they have finished moving in. It's the ancillary tenants that pay full fare.
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Old November 26th, 2013, 11:07 AM   #555
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I really hope that this one will fruit. Philly really deserves a supertall. :-)
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Old November 26th, 2013, 01:52 PM   #556
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I really hope that this one will fruit. Philly really deserves a supertall. :-)
Absolutely, Philadelphia is a beautiful city with a great Skyline. A supertall would fit great there!
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Old November 26th, 2013, 02:23 PM   #557
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Philadelphia indeed needs a supertall, at least all the bigger cities have some, so than the top 5 all have supertalls. I wonder if it will look somewhat the same as he Comcast center.
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Philadelphia indeed needs a supertall, at least all the bigger cities have some, so than the top 5 all have supertalls. I wonder if it will look somewhat the same as he Comcast center.
Robert A.M. Stern designed the Comcast Tower so the choice of Foster+Partners suggests a break from that form towards something more articulated. Unless these guys go crazy, it may only reach 300 meters by virtue of a crown or spire. I'm thinking this one will have no more than 1.5 million sq. ft.
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Old November 27th, 2013, 11:52 AM   #559
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If Philadelphia gets a supertall that bumps up the list of US supertall cities to:

Atlanta
Chicago
Houston
Los Angeles
Miami*
New York
Philadelphia*
San Francisco*

Now we'd just need Boston, Dallas, Seattle and Washington DC (yeah, I know)
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I see Boston, Dallas and Seatlle getting one, but DC? Seriously?
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