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Old September 30th, 2013, 01:43 AM   #101
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They aren't that empty. Also this thread will do nothing but cause arguments.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 02:01 AM   #102
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London is overrated.

Don't understand why Shenzhen is brought up. If the skyline is not English speaking, North American and/or European is safe to assume its underrated to a certain extent. Given how Western/Anglo-centric "mainstream" skyscraper fanning is ATM. Except for Japan, the western world knows Japan extremely well relative to its neighbors.

Toronto on the other hand I can see why people think its overrated. Its got that inverse tip of the iceberg thing going on. All these proposed buildings make up most of the "claimed activity" that everyone is boasting about in future renders etc., jumping the gun.

When a much smaller amount is actually happening and changing the skyline TODAY. Its still impressive but there is definitely some overhype. There are ~20 +150m buildings U/C in Toronto and ~100 proposed. Man if you did the same to Toronto transit we would have the world's best transit system.

Nowadays, you get comparisons and chest thumping about how we have more activity than New York in the media. Even though New York has slightly less projects than us, all their projects are monster landmark tower and mega developments. While Toronto is mostly of filler cookie cutter condos.

Sometimes I get the feeling that Urban Toronto believes that Toronto is the only city that is building buildings. That being said I do love my home's skyline and it will certainly grow well and hold out to the "rush" Asian mega skylines.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 02:01 AM   #103
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Pfft, you're just mad that Melbourne is better than Sydney.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 02:20 AM   #104
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Old September 30th, 2013, 02:56 AM   #105
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Old September 30th, 2013, 03:24 AM   #106
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No matter you hate Dubai or not, it's truly a special skyscrapercity in the world. It might not have the density of Hong Kong or architecture of New York, but it has the sheer amount of skyscrapers to be called a remarkable skyscrapercity. You may dislike UAE for their economy, or their culture (which is insanely stupid imo), but one can't deny that Dubai has brought supertall building revolution on this planet. It it rightly deserves the recognition it gets. 18 supertall is not a matter of joke, whether you like Dubai's architecture or not.

Like everybody else, I also believe London is extremely overhyped. With its puny skyline, I don't understand how Londoners attempt to compare their skyline and downplay cities like Dubai or Hong Kong which are renowned for their skylines. If London's handful amount of buildings were built in any Chinese city, they would be labeled as ugly or tacky. London skyline is talked about because of London's global fame only, nothing else.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 03:29 AM   #107
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Old September 30th, 2013, 03:54 AM   #108
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London is the most overrated skyline. Singapore is also a bit overrated.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 11:14 AM   #109
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Maybe London is the most overrated because it never had a highrise skyline up until 2000-2001 and the fact it's transformation over the last 10 years has seen alot of positive articles wrote about it??

Maybe it's growth upwards has caused more of a stir because of it's traditional lowrise topography?? I know I have been more intrigued with London's growth upwards then most traditionally highrise cities.

And Joseph Gomez. London skyscrapers would be called tacky in Chinese cities?? Swiss RE, Leadenhall, The Shard and Fenchurch are the only towers that differ from a boxyness design.

These 4 skyscrapers are the best architecturally designed towers anywhere in Europe. Built anywhere they would be regarded as the best architecturally designed towers.

Get that frigging chip of your shoulder. You sound ridiculous.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 11:40 AM   #110
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No matter you hate Dubai or not, it's truly a special skyscrapercity in the world. It might not have the density of Hong Kong or architecture of New York, but it has the sheer amount of skyscrapers to be called a remarkable skyscrapercity. You may dislike UAE for their economy, or their culture (which is insanely stupid imo), but one can't deny that Dubai has brought supertall building revolution on this planet. It it rightly deserves the recognition it gets. 18 supertall is not a matter of joke, whether you like Dubai's architecture or not.

Like everybody else, I also believe London is extremely overhyped. With its puny skyline, I don't understand how Londoners attempt to compare their skyline and downplay cities like Dubai or Hong Kong which are renowned for their skylines. If London's handful amount of buildings were built in any Chinese city, they would be labeled as ugly or tacky. London skyline is talked about because of London's global fame only, nothing else.

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Old September 30th, 2013, 11:41 AM   #111
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London better than this? I love London, but do you think its comparable?
Dubai isn't the most underrated, but probably the most hated, by people like you
LOL when did I ever say london is better than dubai. I just said london isn't nearly as overrated as dubai. Dubai ain't as special as everybody says it is.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 11:44 AM   #112
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I want to get more of a consensus first before I close it.
People have a thread for ugly buildings, overrated buildings, ugly cities and everything idk why people are getting so butthurt over this one.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 07:50 PM   #113
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People have a thread for ugly buildings, overrated buildings, ugly cities and everything idk why people are getting so butthurt over this one.
And I really don't care for any of those threads. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 08:07 PM   #114
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People have a thread for ugly buildings, overrated buildings, ugly cities and everything idk why people are getting so butthurt over this one.
People have more of a connection with entire cities, especially cities that they live in more so than individual buildings. There is ego attached. ON TOP of that, a near majority of the people here (like ANY FORUM) are not that intelligent or are simply lazy and fail to research the facts before posting. When judging a skyline you should always take into account a few things, for example:
-natural setting (to an extent)
-aesthetics, are the buildings nice looking, are they good quality? How about the shape of the skyline, Vancouver's table top vs Toronto's peaked mountain.
-height and Quantity statistics, this is where most morons fail horribly. There are like 100 different websites you can get these stats from, if all else fails take a look at the damn skyscraperpage diagrams, THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

As a result of peoples failure to research properly, they spew retarded crap out of their mouths (fingers) which in turn offends others because of how factually wrong they are and how badly that retarded crap misrepresents their city or a city that they like.

For example, If I were to say "If every proposal in Chicago and Toronto were built within the next 5 years, Toronto would have a higher average height than Chicago and MORE towers over 200m" I would be stating A FACT, but the uneducated masses will simply spew crap about how Toronto could NEVER catch Chicago and turn it into a big city vs city pissing contest, rather than just... researching and confirming those statistics and facts... And if they lose that argument they would graduate onto the next argument "Well most of them probably wont be built yadayadayada", even though we've calculated that roughly 80% of all Toronto proposals are constructed (which is a VERY high success rate). So why do people get butt hurt? Because they are stupid and refuse to research and accept the facts. People who are highly knowledgeable and intelligent... DONT GET BUTTHURT.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 08:49 PM   #115
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Toronto on the other hand I can see why people think its overrated. Its got that inverse tip of the iceberg thing going on.
Do you think people include proposals and construction in their ratings? I suppose there's some of that going on, but I suspect most people use photographs supplemented with data to arrive at their decisions. Btw, what did you mean by 'inverse tip of the iceberg'?

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Sometimes I get the feeling that Urban Toronto believes that Toronto is the only city that is building buildings.
That site can be a little much to take, but I do find its members to be well informed/well traveled. It's a city based site as the name implies so development that happens beyond Toronto is not the focus. It's an 'industry' site populated by people in architecture, urban planning, and the development industry.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 08:55 PM   #116
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balneario camboriu in brazil is a bit overrated...
never even heard of the place..
how is it overrated?


Sao Paolo is NOT overrated.
You don't see it often on rankings..
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Old September 30th, 2013, 08:58 PM   #117
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London is the most overrated skyline. Singapore is also a bit overrated.
I agree on Singapore.
always in the top 10 rankings.. which I really don't understand..
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Old September 30th, 2013, 09:00 PM   #118
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If the skyline is not English speaking, North American and/or European is safe to assume its underrated to a certain extent. Given how Western/Anglo-centric "mainstream" skyscraper fanning is ATM. Except for Japan, the western world knows Japan extremely well relative to its neighbors.
I agree that it's very Western-Anglo centric, but isn't everything? We're also on an English speaking site. It would be interesting to see what people's perceptions of skylines are around the world on a Chinese site or Indian site.

That said, Asian skylines are beginning to get the attention they deserve. Tokyo, Singapore, and Hong Kong have long been recognized, but people's horizons are expanding.
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never even heard of the place..
how is it overrated?
Wino, you made me laugh.
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