daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Forums > Skyscrapers

Skyscrapers General news, discussion and announcement forum about skyscrapers, including the Skyscraper Living forum



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old May 13th, 2015, 04:59 PM   #401
the spliff fairy
ONE WORLD
 
the spliff fairy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: london
Posts: 7,981
Likes (Received): 6251

Maybe these pics would be better:

SCROLL>>>>
image hosted on flickr



黄带 / Yellow Belt by blackstation, on Flickr

SCROOOLL AGAAAAINN>>>>
image hosted on flickr

Shanghai by radics.geza, on Flickr


Hong Kong and Shanghai compared to scale (the built up area of HK btw is the exact same size as Manhattan, 59 sq km):

HK:

http://daily-photo.net

Shanghai:
image hosted on flickr

World's Largest Skylines Ranking - Page 2 - SkyscraperCity
__________________

Forsen, Assemblage23, Zaz965 liked this post
the spliff fairy no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old May 16th, 2015, 02:09 AM   #402
Hudson11
Stuck on the Cross Bronx
 
Hudson11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: The Empire State
Posts: 9,528
Likes (Received): 22566

Chicago


Chicago by Kevin T. Houle, on Flickr
__________________

Zaz965, Sister Ray liked this post
Hudson11 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 16th, 2015, 04:59 AM   #403
bigbarcelona
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 226
Likes (Received): 81

Quote:
Originally Posted by hunser View Post
P3370067 by amsfrank, on Flickr
Damn! How I missed NY
__________________

Major Deegan, Zaz965 liked this post
bigbarcelona no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 16th, 2015, 06:53 AM   #404
Tokyo/Manila
Infrastructure
 
Tokyo/Manila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Unknown
Posts: 2,463
Likes (Received): 1720

Shanghai is so BIG and very Dense probably surpassed NY already
__________________

_Night City Dream_, Zaz965 liked this post
Tokyo/Manila está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old May 16th, 2015, 08:12 AM   #405
wespje1990
Registered User
 
wespje1990's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 965
Likes (Received): 806

Dubai Marina
__________________
™®
wespje1990 está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old May 16th, 2015, 09:44 AM   #406
_Night City Dream_
Registered User
 
_Night City Dream_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 18,659
Likes (Received): 94500

Dubai Marina is not at all dense.
__________________
Big Cities is one of the major inventions by human beings

My Baku / Мой Баку / 我的巴库


Zaz965 liked this post
_Night City Dream_ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 16th, 2015, 01:47 PM   #407
the spliff fairy
ONE WORLD
 
the spliff fairy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: london
Posts: 7,981
Likes (Received): 6251

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tokyo/Manila View Post
Shanghai is so BIG and very Dense probably surpassed NY already

Well the count so far is 6,053 highrises 12 storeys or over for NYC, and 14,479 highrises of 16 storeys or over (or 31,018 11 storeys or over) for Shanghai. In short Shanghai has about 3-4.5x the amount of highrises.
__________________

Zaz965 liked this post
the spliff fairy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 17th, 2015, 03:32 AM   #408
bodegavendetta
everywhere like such as
 
bodegavendetta's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: New York City
Posts: 1,104
Likes (Received): 2651

Buenos Aires wins this one for me.
__________________

Zaz965 liked this post
bodegavendetta no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 18th, 2015, 03:20 PM   #409
hunser
Steinway to Heaven |¦┆┊
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Wien
Posts: 1,837
Likes (Received): 5031

Quote:
Originally Posted by the spliff fairy View Post
Well the count so far is 6,053 highrises 12 storeys or over for NYC, and 14,479 highrises of 16 storeys or over (or 31,018 11 storeys or over) for Shanghai. In short Shanghai has about 3-4.5x the amount of highrises.
Yes Shanghai beats both NYC and HK when it comes to highrises.
HK beats NYC when it comes to 150m+.
NYC beats HK when it comes to 200m+.
Dubai beats NYC when it comes to 300m+.

That's of course the current situation. Shenzhen and other Chinese cities. are catching up. Only New York will be able to hold its position since it's booming. HK and Shanghai will fall behind. Dubai is going stroing again.
hunser no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 18th, 2015, 11:03 PM   #410
lsg97
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 113
Likes (Received): 91

New York City!
I stayed in a hotel in W39th street and from outside it looked to me like a row house, which it was, but looking at the elevator it turned out to have 33 floors (roof height 110m/361ft). And there were three more similar buildings as well as a whole block of at least 20+ storey buildings crammed together like you'd know it from those older suburban brownstone house rows - I doubt there are many comparable cityscapes...

Street view link for those interested:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7562...hRQA!2e0?hl=de
lsg97 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 31st, 2015, 02:37 AM   #411
Hudson11
Stuck on the Cross Bronx
 
Hudson11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: The Empire State
Posts: 9,528
Likes (Received): 22566

Manhattan


One World Observatory, Opening Day 60 by Richard Silver, on Flickr
__________________

rockinmoz, Zaz965 liked this post
Hudson11 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 31st, 2015, 07:59 PM   #412
luci203
Registered User
 
luci203's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,129
Likes (Received): 1202

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tokyo/Manila View Post
Shanghai is so BIG and very Dense probably surpassed NY already
Shanghai is only bigger in area, but is not more dense, is a lot less dense than NY.

Shanghai have a mix of low rise areas with higher buildings, not all tall buildings close and packed together.

Same thing go for Dubai, where except tall block in Dubai Marina and the ones along SZ Road, most skyscrapers are not that close, having all kind of parks, lakes and stuff around.

The really dense skylines around the world are New York, Hong Kong, Chicago and Toronto or Singapore. (with some other cities, but those lack size, only have a small dense CBD)

Most NA skylines or HK grow dense from supply/demand, while many ME or Chinese CBD's are planned, and they never planed to be that dense like the old ones. (while some skyscraper fans love density, most people don't - especially residential areas)

Shenzhen is the ultimate example, where city planers want to have half of the city green area, so even if it will have more, more and more of everything, it will never have more density. (except some small parts of some clusters)
__________________
After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F...

elculo, lsg97, Zaz965 liked this post
luci203 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 1st, 2015, 04:33 PM   #413
the spliff fairy
ONE WORLD
 
the spliff fairy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: london
Posts: 7,981
Likes (Received): 6251

There are 3 urban, granite islands in the world which means theyre space constricted and have to build up, and where it's also easy to build without the more expensive foundation works needed for soft alluvial clays like riverine London and Shanghai.

Those 3 islands are Manhattan, Hong Kong and the Yuzhong Peninsular in Chongqing, (plus a new one slated for Yujiapu in Tianjin). These would be the places where space constraints mean every parcel of land will at some stage head upward:

Chongqing




Yujiapu, Tianjin

__________________

Zaz965 liked this post
the spliff fairy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 4th, 2015, 05:33 PM   #414
isaidso
the new republic
 
isaidso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The United Provinces of America
Posts: 29,645
Likes (Received): 10793

Quote:
Originally Posted by luci203 View Post
Shanghai is only bigger in area, but is not more dense, is a lot less dense than NY.

Shanghai have a mix of low rise areas with higher buildings, not all tall buildings close and packed together.

Same thing go for Dubai, where except tall block in Dubai Marina and the ones along SZ Road, most skyscrapers are not that close, having all kind of parks, lakes and stuff around.

The really dense skylines around the world are New York, Hong Kong, Chicago and Toronto or Singapore. (with some other cities, but those lack size, only have a small dense CBD)
Agree. If we're talking about the density of tall buildings, they're packed together far more tightly in New York, Hong Kong, Chicago, Toronto, and Singapore than most other places. Skyscrapers are usually built right out to the lot line and are often only separated by 4-6 lanes of road and 2 sidewalks.

North American cities in general are all built this way. Burj Khalifa is the other extreme. It sits on this massive lot with the actual floor plate covering only a small portion of the lot.
__________________
World's 1st Baseball Game: June 4th, 1838, Beachville, Ontario, Canada
North America's Oldest Pro Football Teams: Toronto Argonauts (1873) and Hamilton Tiger Cats (1869)

I started my first photo thread documenting a recent trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia. Have a peek: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=724898

Zaz965 liked this post
isaidso no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 4th, 2015, 09:23 PM   #415
the spliff fairy
ONE WORLD
 
the spliff fairy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: london
Posts: 7,981
Likes (Received): 6251

^what's interesting about Shanghai is the outskirts are solid wall to wall highrises to house the exploding population of newcomers (up to 3000 a
day), but the centre, although thick with skyscrapers, is still carpetted by historic lowrises below them. The new side of the centre, Pudong is still
tower-in-the-park idea, but Lujiazui with its astronomical rents will no doubt become, very, very dense in the future, as possibly China's financial
ground zero.

image hosted on flickr


the Puxi side is very dense in many areas



but less dense in highrises in the historic districts, eg near the riverfront Bund (but notice how dense it gets further away from the centre)


SCROLL>>>
image hosted on flickr

黄带 / Yellow Belt by blackstation, on Flickr



whereas by contrast, the new Pudong side is still very much terraforming:


image hosted on flickr

Shanghai by AnotherOz, on Flickr
__________________

mw123, Zaz965 liked this post

Last edited by the spliff fairy; June 4th, 2015 at 09:54 PM.
the spliff fairy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 4th, 2015, 09:24 PM   #416
wookes
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 352
Likes (Received): 352

Benidorm (Spain) wins









__________________

Zaz965 liked this post
wookes no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 4th, 2015, 11:47 PM   #417
luci203
Registered User
 
luci203's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,129
Likes (Received): 1202

Quote:
Originally Posted by the spliff fairy View Post
the centre, although thick with skyscrapers, is still carpetted by historic lowrises below them. The new side of the centre, Pudong is still tower-in-the-park idea, but Lujiazui with its astronomical rents will no doubt become, very, very dense in the future, as possibly China's financial
ground zero.
look like a leopard skin the mix of high and low areas.

as for Lujiazui, really doubt it will become more dense, since to change destination for parks is the most difficult, so stop dreaming of razing the park and fill it with skyscrapers, no mater how high rents go.

if demand and rents will continue to stay high, they have other areas, like those low rise slum-like parts to redevelop... that only need a lot of cash but less bureaucracy.

__________________
After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F...

Zaz965 liked this post
luci203 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 5th, 2015, 12:04 AM   #418
Hudson11
Stuck on the Cross Bronx
 
Hudson11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: The Empire State
Posts: 9,528
Likes (Received): 22566

Quote:
Originally Posted by wookes View Post
Benidorm (Spain) wins
plenty of tall highrises to be sure, but not even close to being as dense as Hong Kong


Hong Kong Skyline by Andy Yeung, on Flickr


Skyline by dbeddoes, on Flickr


"Hong Kong Panorama" at The Peak , Hong Kong by Ben Molloy, on Flickr
__________________

the spliff fairy, Zaz965 liked this post

Last edited by Hudson11; June 5th, 2015 at 12:09 AM.
Hudson11 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 5th, 2015, 08:31 PM   #419
Soriehlam
Registered User
 
Soriehlam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Posts: 82
Likes (Received): 101

Not sure about what was discussed about Tokyo in this thread, but I think it's really impressive in terms of highrises per sq/km.

Shinjuku Skyline 02 by Sandro Bisaro, no Flickr


Shinjuku Skyline by Sandro Bisaro, no Flickr


Shinjuku Skyline at Dusk by Hidehiko Sakashita, no Flickr
__________________
"And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And he builded a city."

"Cities, like cats, will reveal themselves at night." - Cathleen Nesbitt

TowerVerre:), Assemblage23, Zaz965 liked this post
Soriehlam no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 5th, 2015, 08:37 PM   #420
Soriehlam
Registered User
 
Soriehlam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Posts: 82
Likes (Received): 101

Shinjuku :O

Day 182/366 : Shinjuku Skyscrapers from Tokyo Skytree by Hidehiko Sakashita, no Flickr
__________________
"And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And he builded a city."

"Cities, like cats, will reveal themselves at night." - Cathleen Nesbitt

Zaz965 liked this post
Soriehlam no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu