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Old January 16th, 2016, 06:46 PM   #461
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Thats not true, maybe the sculptures won't return but the church will be restored in its former appearance.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 07:52 PM   #462
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wonderful images, Tiaren. Unfortunately, the interior of the Friederichwerder Church no longer exists as shown. The wonderful display has been removed and the interior closed to access, resulting from building structural issues. I believe it's partly or largely due to the heavy amount of luxury condo building constructions in the area. But for whatever reason, that image may never again be seen live and in person.
What makes you believe that they won't restore the church to it's former state? It's not as if it was completely levelled and can't ever return. The church is still there, just under renovation, and the art pieces are also still there, just stored at another location right now. It's a very precious building and one of Schinkels masterpieces. I have no doubt that after the luxury condos are build and the interior is renovated, it will be open to the public again with an agreeable use. Berlin/Germany has renovated or completely reconstructed much more dire cases. It's also by no way ruled out to house the neoclassicist sculpture gallery again, which is an extension of the Alte Nationalgalerie's collections, that need a place to be displayed.

The Alte Nationalgalerie (Old National Gallery):

Alte Nationalgalerie Berlin by Patrice von Collani, on Flickr

alte nationalgalerie by Jens Fersterra, on Flickr

Here some of it's wonderful sculptures:

Alte Nationalgalerie 5 by Birgir Jónsson, on Flickr

Alte Nationalgalerie 11 by Birgir Jónsson, on Flickr

Alte Nationalgalerie 2 by Birgir Jónsson, on Flickr

BER_AltesNationalgalerie_04 by chiang_benjamin, on Flickr

Berlin - Alte Nationalgalerie - Boy with Thorn - Gustav Eberlein by Car Los, on Flickr

Pan comforting Psyche by Reinhard Begas, Alte Nationalgalerie by Jiuguang Wang, on Flickr

sleeping beauty by vince42, on Flickr

sleeping beauty by vince42, on Flickr

The sclupture above, Dornröschen (Sleeping Beauty) made by Louis Sussmann-Hellborn, is one of my most favorite works of art.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 11:48 PM   #463
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What makes you believe that they won't restore the church to it's former state? It's not as if it was completely levelled and can't ever return. The church is still there, just under renovation, and the art pieces are also still there, just stored at another location right now. It's a very precious building and one of Schinkels masterpieces. I have no doubt that after the luxury condos are build and the interior is renovated, it will be open to the public again with an agreeable use. Berlin/Germany has renovated or completely reconstructed much more dire cases. It's also by no way ruled out to house the neoclassicist sculpture gallery again, which is an extension of the Alte Nationalgalerie's collections, that need a place to be displayed.
I did not say anything about the future. I did say that the scene you posted no longer exists as shown, which is what I thought was the point of the thread--currently existing historic structures and spaces. Obviously, the sculptures are stored and may very well reappear. And it seems obvious, too, that the church will be attended to structurally and designated for use, but I was told by an attendant at the site there are no firm plans for the future exposition the sculptures or the re-purpose of the church.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 04:37 AM   #464
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I did say that the scene you posted no longer exists as shown, which is what I thought was the point of the thread--currently existing historic structures and spaces.
That's a kinda peculiar view... This thread is about Berlin's architectural heritage and everything shown in the pictures is still existing heritage, even if it is under renovation. On the previous page are also pictures of the State Library under renovation as well as the Neues Palais under renovation.
Should I also not post a picture of the State Opera like this...

Große Oper by Magnus Niemann, on Flickr

...just because it is under renovation for now and because it will probably be painted in a pink shade in the future? It really might be pink in the future, no joke.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 05:39 PM   #465
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OK. Here is a close up of the bust of Schinkel who designed the Friederichswerder Church. This piece used to be displayed inside.



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Close by is a 1930s building with interesting lines and design elements.



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Old January 18th, 2016, 01:13 AM   #467
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It really might be pink in the future, no joke.
Was the State Opera every colored in a shade of pink or would this be a purely 21st Century "upgrade"?
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Was the State Opera every colored in a shade of pink or would this be a purely 21st Century "upgrade"?
Experts are not perfectly sure...it could have been pink at one point in time. It was fairly typical for German baroque buildings to be of a very bright color. The State Opera building is however a late baroque building and after all the alterations over the centuries looks more neoclassicist to me.

Some old depictions of the building:







Not really a trace of it being pink there however...

The wish for it to be pink (or of any bright color) might also have come from the fact that in recent years all the buildings around it have been renovated and painted in some kind of sandstone beige. In German we colloquially call it Milchkaffee, meaning milk coffee. They might finally have come to the conclusion that this is all a bit too much of the same color and at least one splash of color is needed.

Here's by the way a preview paint job of how the pink might end up looking like:

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Another famous pink baroque building on Unter den Linden is the Zeughaus by the way:

Mitte Berlin- Zeughaus - former armory by Michael Dailey, on Flickr

DSC02681.JPG by sgplewka, on Flickr

...which imho looks fairly good in this shade of color.
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Which is about right across the street from the State Opera. Could provide an interesting bookends look.

To me there is a bit of an uncomfortable clash between the fresh, pastel walls and the still blackened and war-worn pilasters, columns, and sculptures, though. Seems half-attended to. But better than nothing.
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The wish for it to be pink (or of any bright color) might also have come from the fact that in recent years all the buildings around it have been renovated and painted in some kind of sandstone beige. In German we colloquially call it Milchkaffee, meaning milk coffee. They might finally have come to the conclusion that this is all a bit too much of the same color and at least one splash of color is needed.
Tiaren, do you know if the buildings had originally blank Sandstone and painted facade or where they originally fully painted?
I always thougth that the blank sandstone thing is something historicist an not typical for baroque or classicist buildings.
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Tiaren, do you know if the buildings had originally blank Sandstone and painted facade or where they originally fully painted?
I always thougth that the blank sandstone thing is something historicist an not typical for baroque or classicist buildings.
You are right, they indeed were usually fully painted. Only in the 19th century the full paint job was seen as inferior to more valuable and classy stone facades. Only then they freed the sandstone parts of paint and often painted the rest in a way that imitated a stone texture.

A good example is the Altes Palais (1837) also on Unter den Linden:

08.09.04.18.09 - Berlin, Altes Palais, Carl Ferdinand Langhans by PROFI-LACK-TISCH, on Flickr

Altes Palais (Berlin, Unter den Linden) by Mondrian Graf Lüttichau, on Flickr

Everything except the porticus is just painted to look like stone.

What many also can't imagine today: Even the Brandenburg Gate was painted fully white.
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Thanks for the contribution, Ludi! (Also for the edit. )

The Museum of Communication:

Built 1871-1874 by the architect Heinrich von Stephen as the Imperial Post Office. The Emperor was present at the inauguration and was especially pleased by it's "grandeur" and "dignity".

museum für kommunikation by Flavio Ensiki, on Flickr

Museum für Kommunikation Berlin by Heidi Kontkanen, on Flickr

Museum für Kommunikation by K.H.Reichert, on Flickr

Museum für Kommunikation by K.H.Reichert, on Flickr

Museum für Kommunikation by K.H.Reichert, on Flickr

Museum für Kommunikation, Berlin by Cornelli2010, on Flickr

gg by K.H.Reichert, on Flickr

Museum für Kommunikation by K.H.Reichert, on Flickr

Museum für Kommunikation by K.H.Reichert, on Flickr

Today one of the most famous stamps of the world is displayed there. The Blue Mauritius:
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this is what real quality architecture is all about. Magnificent.
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this is what real quality architecture is all about. Magnificent.
Definitely agree! It must have been an enormous effort to design these structures and each smallest detail and bringing so many capable artists together to form one gesamtkunstwerk. There also so much symbolysm and meaning in the statues, murals and coat of arms. And so much was purely handmade and unique, not mass produced like today.
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Thanks for the pics and the info Tiaren
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Some random goodness from Berlin.

2012-10-10 10-13 Berlin 427 Unter den Linden, Deutsches Historisches Museum by Allie_Caulfield, on Flickr

Berlin_Unter_den_Linden by DamiDamberger, on Flickr

Friedrich Schiller Statue by David Cabrera, on Flickr

Berlin. Über den Linden by Genady, on Flickr

DSC3285 Palacio Real, Berlín by Ramón Muñoz, on Flickr

Schloss Charlottenburg im Nebel by ~janne, on Flickr

Berliner Dom Evening I by Paul Turner, on Flickr

Alte Bibliothek by marconogues, on Flickr

20120428 17_34_570611H by Klaus Bruck, on Flickr

DSC_6075 by Brian Tolin, on Flickr
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Reconstructed tower of the Parochialkirche and its lovely unique glockenspiel chimes finally finished:

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Today, after 72 years, the reconstructed carillon of the Parochial Church was playing for the first time again:


During the opening ceremony at the Kloster quarter last Sunday:


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Reminder: The baroque Parochial Church before the tower reconstruction.


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What Versailles is to Paris or Windsor to London, that is Potsdam to Berlin:

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Brandenburg gate/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - Бранденбургские ворота by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Altstadt/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - старый город by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Nauen gate/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - Науэнские ворота by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Altstadt/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - старый город by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - St. Nicholas church/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - церковь Св. Николая by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Altstadt/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - старый город by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Altstadt/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - старый город by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

And here it's famous royal palaces:

POTSDAM, GERMANY - New Palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - Новый Дворец by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - New Palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - Новый Дворец by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Sanssouci palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - дворец Сан-Суси by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Sanssouci palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - дворец Сан-Суси by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - New Palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - Новый Дворец by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - New Palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - Новый Дворец by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - New Palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - Новый Дворец by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - New Palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - Новый Дворец by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - New Palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - Новый Дворец by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Sanssouci palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - дворец Сан-Суси by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Sanssouci palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - дворец Сан-Суси by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Sanssouci palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - дворец Сан-Суси by Miami Love 1, on Flickr

POTSDAM, GERMANY - Sanssouci palace/ ПОТСДАМ, ГЕРМАНИЯ - дворец Сан-Суси by Miami Love 1, on Flickr
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