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Old June 2nd, 2015, 03:06 PM   #261
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I was hoping this one would go supertall.
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Old June 2nd, 2015, 04:09 PM   #262
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Ditto. Now we just need Walpole.
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Old June 2nd, 2015, 06:50 PM   #263
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update by Yimby today.


1 Park Lane, renderings likely by Herzog and de Meuron

New Views, Interiors, Possible Herzog and de Meuron Design for 1 Park Lane, aka 36 Central Park South
http://newyorkyimby.com/2015/06/reve...ark-south.html

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1 Park Lane, rendering likely by Herzog and de Meuron

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Evidently there was a substantial design competition for the building, but with the Handel version rendered in multiple formats and plastered on the building’s EB-5 materials, it would appear to be the final design (or close to it, especially given this 30-page PDF on the project, in Chinese). Still, changes could be possible, with Extell approaching the owners of 30 Central Park South for a possible buy, next door.

Per the EB-5 documents, the building will have 88 condominiums, and completion is slated for 2020.

I agree with Yimby assessment, that Handel Version is the winning architect, since Witkoff is pushing Handel's design in the EB5 literature. I expect some changes and refinement.


Interestingly after some digging, this architectural firm, Voss Architects collaborated with Herzog de Meuron for a 1,300’ tall mixed use Central Park Tower w/ hotel. It noted, project suspended, therefore I am assuming this collaboration is for the 36 CPS site and conclude Herzog de Meuron to be OUT.


http://www.vossarchitects.com/collab...-city-usa.html
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Old June 2nd, 2015, 07:01 PM   #264
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I need to see the full design of that tower!

Looks like a great mix of concrete/stone with large glass windows with a contemporary curve to add to the mix

The render which shows a large portion of the tower gives me a vibe Stern designing it

Interesting
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 12:21 AM   #265
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I agree, it could be interesting with those materials. That design reminds me a little bit of a stretched out 215 Chrystie that is currently being built, designed by Herzog. Plus 1,300' figure would have been a blast.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 06:08 PM   #266
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Love this addition.

For those complaining that 432 Park sticks out, this should help it blend in with the skyline.
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Old June 7th, 2015, 12:49 AM   #267
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waiting on the future...


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Old June 7th, 2015, 03:43 AM   #268
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Looking at Curbed NY, the Einsteins behind the attempt to landmark the far from historic current Park Lane Building are coming out of the woodwork again for one more good ole' NIMBY try. Or maybe they are Gary Barnett's minions trying to keep the domination of the immediate area for Extell. The plot sickens!
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Old June 7th, 2015, 06:18 AM   #269
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I cannot believe the NIMBYs are trying to landmark this PoS just to prevent development. First, look at what preventing development has done to cities like Paris. Second, if they try to landmark this, they will try to landmark 60s buildings that look even uglier. Just to prevent development. Disgusting.

Campaign to Landmark Park Lane Hotel Returns



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Last year, the city roundly rejected a push to landmark the 44-year-old Helmsley Park Lane Hotel. Now, despite the fact that renderings have just surfaced for a massive condo building set to rise on the Witkoff-owned site, the "strangest preservation campaign in history" appears to have returned.

In February, Juan Reyes (a Queens real estate attorney affiliated with the Save Park Lane NY group) filed another petition with the Landmarks Preservation Commission, who rejected it five days later. But now, according to Crain's, media attorney Charles Glasser has filed a Freedom of Information Law request asking for records related to the LPC's decision.

At the time, the campaign was criticized as frivolous, and executive director of the Municipal Arts Society, Margaret Newman, alleged that it was "an attempt by some unknown party to stop Mr. Witkoff's project, rather than preserve a piece of architectural history."

"Landmarking shouldn't be used as a tool to prevent development," she told Crain's. "If we need better zoning, then we need better zoning. That's the lesson of the Park Lane Hotel."
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Old June 7th, 2015, 06:32 AM   #270
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They failed badly the first time and will look even more ridiculous. No way this should get through even for serious consideration. Seriously though, despite the NIMBYs who'd love to stop this just because, I'm wondering if this crowd isn't a front for Extell to stop Macklowe and be the dominant developers in the skyline with One57, 217 W57th, 31 W57TH, ETC. If Extell can't acquire enough property right directly overlooking the park this time, they don't want to have a competitive vanity tower in the best location overlooking the park. Hope it fails utterly and completely.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 01:01 AM   #271
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Can failures be landmarked at all?
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Old June 10th, 2015, 10:32 AM   #272
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The design could have be better.
why architech build building without beauty.
why not make like dubai or asia
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Old June 10th, 2015, 11:04 AM   #273
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The final design has not been fully revealed.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 11:09 AM   #274
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I doubt the final design will be better.
often it begin with beautiful design but it end up in a ugly building.
Watch 2 wtc or tower verre.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 03:56 PM   #275
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Well I'd prefer if it looked like the renderings from reply #263 a lot over the initial proposals, way classier
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Old June 11th, 2015, 07:17 AM   #276
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I doubt the final design will be better.
often it begin with beautiful design but it end up in a ugly building.
Watch 2 wtc or tower verre.
Have you seriously went to every thread to complain about 2 wtc? I mean seriously?
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Old June 11th, 2015, 04:36 PM   #277
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I doubt the final design will be better. often it begin with beautiful design but it end up in a ugly building. Watch 2 wtc or tower verre.
Tower Verre is ugly? Wow! Debbie Downer in the house.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 09:21 PM   #278
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ugly or not is a matter of taste and not relevant in the landmarking of a building. But this building is definitely not a monumental design so let it go.
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Old June 14th, 2015, 08:57 PM   #279
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I cannot believe the NIMBYs are trying to landmark this PoS just to prevent development. First, look at what preventing development has done to cities like Paris. Second, if they try to landmark this, they will try to landmark 60s buildings that look even uglier. Just to prevent development. Disgusting.
@onewtclover: Hey could you substantiate on the "preventing development in Paris" part? I am just curious to know what were the decisions they made and the outcome.

Thanks for your information.
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Old June 15th, 2015, 02:55 PM   #280
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@onewtclover: Hey could you substantiate on the "preventing development in Paris" part? I am just curious to know what were the decisions they made and the outcome.

Thanks for your information.
They prevented more abominations like Tour Montparnasse.





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