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Old October 19th, 2013, 03:28 AM   #21
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Old October 19th, 2013, 04:29 AM   #23
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Isn't this the site of The GiraSole? Is that proposal now dead and this has taken its place?

Edit: nevermind.

If I have this right:

One Hudson Boulevard: One Hudson Yards. Related is going to develop that, right?
Two Hudson Boulevard is this new 62 story tower that may have a tenant.
Three Hudson Boulevard is The GiraSole and the developer is Moinian.
Then we have the Sherwood site.

Hudson Boulevard will rival 57th and 42nd Streets!

Then we have Manhattan West, the McDonalds site, 360 10th, and what else ?

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Old October 19th, 2013, 06:06 AM   #24
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Isn't this the site of The GiraSole? Is that proposal now dead and this has taken its place?

Edit: nevermind.

If I have this right:

One Hudson Boulevard: One Hudson Yards. Related is going to develop that, right?
Two Hudson Boulevard is this new 62 story tower that may have a tenant.
Three Hudson Boulevard is The GiraSole and the developer is Moinian.
Then we have the Sherwood site.

Hudson Boulevard will rival 57th and 42nd Streets!

Then we have Manhattan West, the McDonalds site, 360 10th, and what else ?
Welcome back, Lion. 2 Hudson is the McDonald's site.


There's also a 300m plus hotel/residential planned for 11th and 36th.
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Old October 19th, 2013, 06:59 AM   #25
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Since many wonder which towers are over tracks I made this:


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Old October 19th, 2013, 07:24 AM   #26
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Welcome back, Lion. 2 Hudson is the McDonald's site. There's also a 300m plus hotel/residential planned for 11th and 36th.
Which one is the 11 & 36th and who's the developer?

I know on the east side of Hudson Blvd betw. 35 & 36th there are 2 project.

1) Alloy Development which I think has 500+ sq ft (aka, 450 Hudson Blvd)
2) Related new purchase with 1.5 m sq ft

And on western side of Hudson Blvd betw. 36th & 37th, Imperator is the owner of that site which is for sale with 881 k sf for development!

Western side of Hudson Blvd, betw. 37th & 38th is Joseph Chetrit with 580 k sf, but heard he is looking to purchase more air rights.
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Old October 19th, 2013, 02:48 PM   #27
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It's the plot just north of Girasole between 35th and 36th on 11th Ave. I forgot who owns it, but I posted a NYT article months ago in the N Tower thread which describes ownership of all parcels and the plans therefor.

I just found the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/re...last.html?_r=0
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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:13 PM   #28
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One Day, Seven Development Chiefs
http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...opment-chiefs/


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2 Hudson Blvd, with trading-floor size floorplates
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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:27 PM   #30
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Interesting about the trading floors. Besides Citi, UBS is a candidate. Also, it's not clear if everyone at CS will remain on Madison.
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Old October 21st, 2013, 10:08 PM   #31
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yes that would be ideal for large banks.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 12:26 AM   #32
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At the table next to me at lunch, there was a very hot, blonde MILF who worked for Citi . She was telling her friend how the company is choosing between 2 WTC, HY, and Greenwich St, but that the latter would be hard to reconfigure to their needs. She also noted that the consensus is that the Greenwich St location in Tribeca is that it's out of the way for most of the employees, which is true, whereas 2 WTC and HY are near subways and train stations.

In any event, Related Cleary has serious talks with some bank if they're building trading floors. Such talks would spur the interest of the two law firms that Related apparently has snared for 1 HB.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 12:47 AM   #33
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Since, as set forth below, 2HB will have 7 floors of retail and 5 trading floors, I think that this tower will be between 325m and 400m.

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...opment-chiefs/
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At the table next to me at lunch, there was a very hot, blonde MILF who worked for Citi . She was telling her friend how the company is choosing between 2 WTC, HY, and Greenwich St, but that the latter would be hard to reconfigure to their needs. In any event, Related Cleary has serious talks with some bank if they're building trading floors. Such talks would spur the interest of the two law firms that Related apparently has snared for 1 HB.
Lmao!

Errrr Errrr.... Can u tell more about this blonde w/ child?

What da hell! I'm here to talk about buildings...

Ok...back on track.

Honestly this bodes well for 2 WTC IMO. I think chase for 2 HB would be ideal. They just sold 1 CMP for over $700 m. I know the Chinese intends to keep them at their building but Ross can give them a much better deal.

So my hopes is Citi to WTC & Chase to the Yards.

I agree! I think 2 HB will be pretty tall. It's a massive site once it's fully assembled
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She was about 47, blonde, prim and proper, though I speculate that she had a dirty side and probably has a massive vibrator collection.

The HY will be very convenient for every commuter.

Also, unless Larry gives Citi a very good deal, they'll likely go to the HY. It seems that Related is intent upon having this be a very bustling office and retail area when the bulk of his residential towers starts to rise.

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The plan for 15 Penn is instructive here. It was to be 68 floors, including trading floors, and approximately 375m.
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The plan for 15 Penn is instructive here. It was to be 68 floors, including trading floors, and approximately 375m.
Yea almost. 2 HB will have 2.7 - 3 m sf vs 15 Penn having aprox 2 m sf. I will be very happy if this rises close to 1,200 ft. I could also be happy for the exact Pelli design here.

The only reason I say Citi to 2WTC, was based on a article saying Citi has narrowed it down to both Greenwich sites & Eliminated HY, but noted still could factor in. Whatever the case, Related has someone in mind or has something already lined up.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 04:31 AM   #38
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I have to admit I'm disappointed in the 62 floors with the retail and trading too. The ICC in Hong Kong is 3 million square feet. Replace its hotel with the highest residential in NY and top it with a big ass spire and you have a 550m tower easily.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 04:55 AM   #39
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Another monolith for NYC!
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I'm still hopeful the 62 floors is without the full 3 million square feet. If it isn't it would result in a massive, wide tower. Using this map I made a simple massing.



The base is 12 floors of retail and trading floors. It is 72 meters high(I assume retail would want very high ceilings) resulting in 795,000 square feet used.

The tower is about the same size as in the diagram using the remaining square feet with 4.11 meters between floors, the same as north tower. It is 75 stories of office so 87 total.

Keep in mind this is without mechanical or a crown of any kind so it is a low ball estimate. 382 meters is the total.





Now using the same base but only 50 floors of office above. The square footage at 4.11 meters a floor dictates a design as stout(277.5m) as this:





They wouldn't really only do 62 floors, right?
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