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Old November 5th, 2014, 12:44 AM   #401
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He's right. Chicago has built one tower over 1,000 feet in the last 30 years. L.A. only has one 1,000 foot tower. San Francisco is just now getting a 1,000-footer. London recently put one up, and there won't be another for a while. Paris or Tokyo? Nope.

Meanwhile, New York City is building supertalls by MORE THAN the dozen.

Over 1,000 feet
217 West 57th Street
One Vanderbilt
111 West 57th Street
432 Park Avenue
One World Trade Center
125 Greenwich Street
30 Hudson Yards
Two World Trade Center
15 Penn Plaza
50 Hudson Yards
520 West 41st Street
Three World Trade Center
3 Hudson Boulevard
Tower Verre
80 South Street
One57
35 Hudson Yards
Likely Over 1,000 feet
Two Manhattan West
The Hudson Spire
360 10th Avenue
31 West 57th Street

And this is just the beginning!

ONLY IN NEW YORK CITY!

New York! America! The glory of it all!

Towers shorter than 300m can still redefine a skyline. Also, China.

Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:03 AM   #402
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Towers shorter than 300m can still redefine a skyline. Also, China.

Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.
No Chinese city other than Shenzhen is producing more proposals than NYC.
In the tiny spaces of midtown and downtown Manhattan there will be over 7 400m+ towers in addition to at least 18 300m+ towers by 2025.
And I shouldn't need to explain that Chinese developers sometimes are incredible or build even when there is no demand.
Yes, towers lower than 300m can redefine a skyline. But that says a lot about that skyline compared to the monsters like NYC, does it not?
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:14 AM   #403
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His original nonsense was 'only in NY', in response to nothing more than a big company buying a lot of office space. I didn't imagine I'd have to spend this amount of time explaining why that was stupid, yet here we are.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:27 AM   #404
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Sorry, Bug.

I didn't realize that you're a non-New Yorker who gets offended when diehard New Yorkers like me celebrate Gotham's dominance as a commercial center.

I hereby and wholeheartedly apologize and duly pledge from hereafter to refrain from celebrating NY's dominance -- strike that -- I meant ordinariness.

Wait -- my apology wasn't good enough. I hereby adopt, incorporate, and reiterate that which was said by Archie Leach in the attached clip:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KniUNdVZvH4
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:33 AM   #405
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His original nonsense was 'only in NY', in response to nothing more than a big company buying a lot of office space. I didn't imagine I'd have to spend this amount of time explaining why that was stupid, yet here we are.
Samsung wanting to buy their space. I get it. No plane flying by my head! Only in NY. Chase was looking to do that too.

Where else would a corporation prefer to own their own space vs. leasing?? NYC commercial real estate is a great & sound investment.

Entities snapping up whole or part of buildings to $500m to over $1 B. They want to have something call their own in the center of the universe that will have great and proven upside.

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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:36 AM   #406
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No Chinese city other than Shenzhen is producing more proposals than NYC.
In the tiny spaces of midtown and downtown Manhattan there will be over 7 400m+ towers in addition to at least 18 300m+ towers by 2025.
And I shouldn't need to explain that Chinese developers sometimes are incredible or build even when there is no demand.
Yes, towers lower than 300m can redefine a skyline. But that says a lot about that skyline compared to the monsters like NYC, does it not?
It's pretty impressive to think about 18 buildings similar in height to One57 or taller becoming the norm, with buildings having to be over 400m to even stand out.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 02:49 AM   #407
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No Chinese city other than Shenzhen is producing more proposals than NYC.
In the tiny spaces of midtown and downtown Manhattan there will be over 7 400m+ towers in addition to at least 18 300m+ towers by 2025.
And I shouldn't need to explain that Chinese developers sometimes are incredible or build even when there is no demand.
Yes, towers lower than 300m can redefine a skyline. But that says a lot about that skyline compared to the monsters like NYC, does it not?
Also, half the projects proposed in Shenzhen will never be built. The real estate bubble is about to burst there with a fury.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 03:36 AM   #408
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chinas boom can't last forever. there is also a history of zillions of proposals in shenzhen, and other cities never actually getting built.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 11:18 AM   #409
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Sorry, Bug.

I didn't realize that you're a non-New Yorker who gets offended when diehard New Yorkers like me celebrate Gotham's dominance as a commercial center.

I hereby and wholeheartedly apologize and duly pledge from hereafter to refrain from celebrating NY's dominance -- strike that -- I meant ordinariness.

Wait -- my apology wasn't good enough. I hereby adopt, incorporate, and reiterate that which was said by Archie Leach in the attached clip:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KniUNdVZvH4
I'm not offended by your defense of New York. I'm offended by the inadequacy of your arguments. New York is the best city on earth, it deserves more than pathetic one-liners like 'only in NY'.

A legitimate case for its superiority can be made using rationality and common sense, but instead all you people ever do is spout kiss-off lines and affectations. Or focus on the wrong thing to try and falsely talk up a city that doesn't need falsely talking up. It's annoying.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:49 PM   #410
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"Only in New York" is a line that is routinely used by New Yorkers and has been for as long as I've been alive .
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Old November 5th, 2014, 02:07 PM   #411
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That doesn't make it right, or appropriate. Especially when the thing you are claiming is 'only in NY' is demonstrably not only in New York. It's lazy thinking. You can do better, and should; as the city deserves it.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 02:10 PM   #412
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Right, let's settle your differences and move on please
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Old November 5th, 2014, 11:39 PM   #413
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Right, let's settle your differences and move on please
This is the best course of actions. Just ignore superiority complexes and move on, please. Nothing you can do about it.

That being said, any general ideas when this tower will start construction?
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Old November 7th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #414
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"Only in New York" is a line that is routinely used by New Yorkers and has been for as long as I've been alive .
I've heard that phrase used for over 40 years. It's like saying "Only in America" (which is often used ironically).



In case anyone still has hopes, JP Morgan just announced 3,000 additional job cuts. Their hunt for new space could be deferred indefinitely...
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Old November 7th, 2014, 07:47 PM   #415
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I just looked out my window and noticed that the sun is shining.

Only in New York!
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Old November 8th, 2014, 01:37 AM   #416
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I've heard that phrase used for over 40 years. It's like saying "Only in America" (which is often used ironically).



In case anyone still has hopes, JP Morgan just announced 3,000 additional job cuts. Their hunt for new space could be deferred indefinitely...
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Old November 8th, 2014, 01:56 AM   #417
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I've heard that phrase used for over 40 years. It's like saying "Only in America" (which is often used ironically).



In case anyone still has hopes, JP Morgan just announced 3,000 additional job cuts. Their hunt for new space could be deferred indefinitely...
JPMC is clearly trimming the fat, but it is still highly profitable and has over 15,000 employees at its 2 HQ towers that it owns on Park and on Mad (and thousands more at other locations in NYC). JPMC is the strongest bank in the world. Its HQ towers, particularly, its main tower on Park, are obsolete, and they need more trading space. JPMC clearly will build a new tower within the next few years.
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JPMC is clearly trimming the fat, but it is still highly profitable and has over 15,000 employees at its 2 HQ towers that it owns on Park and on Mad (and thousands more at other locations in NYC). JPMC is the strongest bank in the world. Its HQ towers, particularly, its main tower on Park, are obsolete, and they need more trading space. JPMC clearly will build a new tower within the next few years.
So long as they don't get an outrageously sweet deal from the city to stay, definitely look forward to them getting a modern headquarters. Great banks should be engines of economic progress and not masters of maximizing their already high profit margins by gaming the system.
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Old November 8th, 2014, 03:26 PM   #419
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Old November 8th, 2014, 03:53 PM   #420
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Oooooh snap. Wait...

A 200 some foot pyramid shaped building, that would be iconic in any city, is now nearly complete on 34 e 51st st. And it only has one freaking post on SSC.

Only in New York.
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