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Old November 12th, 2016, 10:33 PM   #541
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If that happens, hopefully we will get a building of the supertall type at about the height in the thread heading description. 850,000 square feet is a nice chunk...what is the total proposed amount of square footage?
3.3 million?
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Old November 13th, 2016, 09:52 AM   #542
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Very interesting.... that would included a mixed use component besides commercial. If it doesn't go any higher it should be a massive tower in its own right.
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Old November 14th, 2016, 04:00 AM   #543
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985', according to the latest official info. http://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/co...vember2016.pdf

I think that would make it America's shortest supertall?
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Old November 14th, 2016, 07:59 AM   #544
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Still going to have more square footage available than 30 Hudson, which will be 1,296 ft according to their site... gonna be pretty fat at 985 ft... not sure why with all the square footage they don't go closer to 1,100 ft.
Balance it out a bit at least.
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Old November 14th, 2016, 01:35 PM   #545
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I agree. But I'm not sure if thet 3.3 million is still correct if there is a height reduction.
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Old November 14th, 2016, 02:15 PM   #546
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I don't know how much of the site they will use for the tower, but 55 Water Street has 3,5 million sq feet on a 54000 sq feet site.
And the MetLife tower has 3,14 million sq feet.
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Old November 29th, 2016, 04:19 AM   #547
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This one will be designed by Foster. Also in this video, Ross seems to suggest that they have a tenant at hand so I guess the Blackrock deal went through. Seems like this building is a go.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G76J5-kMvss

Also for section 2 of HY, Gehry, Stern... can't wait.
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Old December 1st, 2016, 08:38 PM   #548
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As suspected...

BlackRock chooses Hudson Yards for new home
http://nypost.com/2016/12/01/blackro...-hudson-yards/

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Financial giant BlackRock has settled on 50 Hudson Yards for its new Manhattan headquarters, sources told The Post.

Although both a BlackRock rep and a source at Hudson Yards developer insisted that “nothing is signed,” a different source familiar with the negotiations said, “An announcement might come as early as next week.”

BlackRock is currently based at Park Avenue Tower (65 E. 55th St.) and 40 E. 52nd St., where it has a combined 700,000 square feet.

It has been eying a new home with close to 1 million square feet.

The company would be the anchor tenant of the planned, 2.3 million square-foot 50 Hudson Yards tower on Tenth Avenue between West 33rd and 34th streets — just north of Related’s fast-rising 30 Hudson Yards, where Time Warner and KKR have signed deals to move their headquarters.

The move by BlackRock wouldn’t occur until about 2023, when its current leases are up. But the impending loss from East Midtown of a tenant as important as BlackRock would be yet another blow to the once-premier Midtown office district, which the city is trying to rezone to prevent further defections.

BlackRock, headed by its founder, Laurence D. Fink, is the world’s largest asset manager and oversees over $5 trillion in assets.

After eliminating the World Trade Center as a possible new home, BlackRock has been reported to have had talks with Related Cos. and partner Oxford for 50 Hudson Yards and also with Tishman Speyer for its proposed supertall tower nearby, called The Spiral.

But it’s now settled on 50 Hudson Yards, our sources said.
Now let's hope Foster delivers the goods.
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Old December 1st, 2016, 08:52 PM   #549
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Great news. Anticipating the design.
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Old December 1st, 2016, 09:30 PM   #550
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Now let's hope Foster delivers the goods.
This is a good example to prove how incredibly attractive the HY development is to potential residents, compared to other developments, incl. the WTC.

It probably has a lot to do with the innovative and creative architecture and the mix of office/residential space
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Old December 1st, 2016, 10:38 PM   #551
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Awesome! Both NYC and Miami are getting Foster supertalls!

Here's what he's delivering in Miami:
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Old December 4th, 2016, 09:18 PM   #552
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This is a good example to prove how incredibly attractive the HY development is to potential residents, compared to other developments, incl. the WTC.

It probably has a lot to do with the innovative and creative architecture and the mix of office/residential space
And the fact that Silverstein has done a really shitty job appealing to tenants.
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Old December 5th, 2016, 08:30 AM   #553
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some of Foster's previous designs for NYC...

Hearst Tower


The Hearst Tower in Manhattan, New York by O Palsson, on Flickr

50 UN Plaza


IMG_4171 by Phil, on Flickr

100 east 53rd


610 Lexington Ave (100 East 53rd St) by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr

551 West 21st


FW4A9029 by Kevin Leclerc, on Flickr

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425 Park



"Red Hoek Point"



cancelled/rejected

2 WTC



WTC redevelopment



"Sutton 58"


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Old December 5th, 2016, 08:22 PM   #554
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And the fact that Silverstein has done a really shitty job appealing to tenants.
Comparing the WTC to HY isn't fair. 7WTC is full. 4WTC about 80%. 3WTC is two years away from opening.

The amount of bureaucracy that's had to be overcome is absurd. If any private developer had complete unfettered control, the WTC would've been finished years ago.

Anyway, other than 2WTC, the PAC/VSC, and maybe a future 5WTC, the site is about 80-90% finished. It took much longer than it should've, but we're almost home.

*EDIT, also let's not forget HY is offering office rents at cost to create the initial momentum. Silverstein basically did the same as well. The first lease (Moody's) at 7WTC was subsidized. The PA and City of NY's leases at 4WTC were in the $60 range. Group M's isn't much more. HY's developers are going to make billions in profits on the housing/retail/hospitality. Other than nearby 30 Park Place, Silverstein has no such luxury.
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Old December 5th, 2016, 09:53 PM   #555
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I hope this will end the HY-WTC comparisons, in fact there's very little that's comparable about both sites.
And yes, the WTC has been quite successful in its own rights.
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Old December 5th, 2016, 10:56 PM   #556
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some of Foster's previous designs for NYC...
For what it's worth, in that Stephen Ross keynote, he mentions Foster's building will be stone and glass, which we haven't really seen from Foster before, at least in a skyscraper. I'm excited to see what they unveil, although I do expect this to be a relatively low-key tower with good modern proportions and quality materials -- more in the vein of 55 HY than 30 or 35.
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Comparing the WTC to HY isn't fair. 7WTC is full. 4WTC about 80%. 3WTC is two years away from opening.

The amount of bureaucracy that's had to be overcome is absurd. If any private developer had complete unfettered control, the WTC would've been finished years ago.

Anyway, other than 2WTC, the PAC/VSC, and maybe a future 5WTC, the site is about 80-90% finished. It took much longer than it should've, but we're almost home.

*EDIT, also let's not forget HY is offering office rents at cost to create the initial momentum. Silverstein basically did the same as well. The first lease (Moody's) at 7WTC was subsidized. The PA and City of NY's leases at 4WTC were in the $60 range. Group M's isn't much more. HY's developers are going to make billions in profits on the housing/retail/hospitality. Other than nearby 30 Park Place, Silverstein has no such luxury.
Silverstein is just less competent than the Hudson Yards developers. Simple as that.
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Old December 6th, 2016, 02:13 PM   #558
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Silverstein is just less competent than the Hudson Yards developers. Simple as that.
Disagree.
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Old December 6th, 2016, 02:15 PM   #559
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Old December 6th, 2016, 07:39 PM   #560
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Silverstein is just less competent than the Hudson Yards developers. Simple as that.

What a despicable statement...
Not only is Silverstein one of the best NY property developer but we owe him respect for his resilience.
You are usually more inspired Illinoisan!

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