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Old April 5th, 2008, 12:48 AM   #461
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so by the same methodology, the miglin-beitler tower out in oak brook, illinois is a landmark.

let's draw a distinction between the terms 'landmark', and 'geographic anomaly'.
Yawn... Your commments make me laugh. Give it up. Everybody knows your opinion pertaining to this building. Let's try this....go sit down, close your eyes real tight and pray real hard and maybe just maybe the building will just disappear.
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Old April 5th, 2008, 01:08 AM   #462
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your comments make me curious. how do YOU define 'good design'?

are you part of the added-density crowd? a strong believer in conceptual architecture that someone on this site once said was "first year design school rhetoric"? amazing height? good quality of construction? LEED and sustainable design?

this is a decent building from certain angles; from others it is simply average. it's got height, glitzy top, and everything that on paper should add up to 'good architecture', but it simply doesn't come together for me - personally- completely.

by the way, does anyone know how sales are in this and the second tower? i heard a lot of people weren't closing on their units and were walking away from their earnest money checks.

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Old April 6th, 2008, 07:34 AM   #463
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Old April 6th, 2008, 05:19 PM   #464
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P/H should hire you to photohgraph all their work. This is the most flattering image yet. Like other's have said, this building isn't as impressive from every perspective, but it looks great here.

Nice picture!
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Old April 6th, 2008, 07:29 PM   #465
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Old April 6th, 2008, 08:56 PM   #466
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P/H should hire you to photohgraph all their work. This is the most flattering image yet. Like other's have said, this building isn't as impressive from every perspective, but it looks great here.

Nice picture!
I actually found that picture at Flickr. There are a lot great photographers on Flickr. If you search Chicago at flickr, theres a good chance you'll find some OMP shots
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Old April 9th, 2008, 08:15 AM   #467
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Old April 9th, 2008, 05:18 PM   #468
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does it not bug anyone that they aren't cladding the concrete core with glass?
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Old April 9th, 2008, 09:30 PM   #469
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Is that something that's changed, or was it always supposed to be painted-on fake glass?

As long as it looks (mostly) convincing from the street and doesn't drastically cheapen the rest of the building, whatever. But I'd certainly hate to see painted concrete outside my window if I actually lived there!
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Old April 10th, 2008, 08:07 AM   #470
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Why does the thread title not say T/O? It's definitely topped out at this point.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 05:31 PM   #471
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I would have to agree as well that it's suddenly become something of a landmark on the skyline. Especially from the West/Southwest sides of the city.

You have the usual big 3 buildings, but then Bam, this guy is just hanging out by himself south of downtown. The general lack of tall buildings in the area makes this stand out greatly. Especially from Grant Park, it's all alone looming over the south side.
it's quite a statement, isn't it? It's as if we never expected a building at the south end of the downtown lakefront to create such a presence.
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wonderful shot, hydrogen. I don't think I've ever seen one from this angle that shows off the way the metra tracks start their southeast diaggonal and litterally slice into museum park.

Which bldg on Randolph was this taken from and which floor?
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Old April 10th, 2008, 08:00 PM   #473
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I have really tried to like this building, but IMO it looks Awkward. Maybe when/if the area fills up a bit more it will look better, hidden amongst other highrises. I just think with the width of it, it could have been a bit taller.
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go to an AIA function locally and ask someone who works at SOM, P&W, StudioGang, Murphy/Jahn, SCB, Valerio, Goetsch, Smith & Gill or VOA what they think of this tower....the phrase 'wasted opportunity' comes up more than once.

i think it's ok to like this building for all the positives a highrise by definiton should provide a skyline - and that this one DOES achieve in terms of density, park definiton, etc. etc., but given it's exposure and prominence, this building could have been so much more than what it is. i can't help but think what Helmut Jahn, Ralph Johnson, or even Martin Wolf could have achieved on this site with the same budget.

i sincerely hope the lessons learned from this tower will make the towers that follow along roosevelt road better.

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i want to build on something i said earlier. I don't think I've ever seen a building in Chicago throw off the equilibrium the way this one does. Seems like our other towers rose more out of existing parts of the skyline and had the context and the familiarity of the buildings around them to show off their height.

One Museum Park rises so high above a newer and less familiar group of high rises that it can give the impression of this not being Chicago, but some other city from various perspectives. Location and height here are somewhat akin to what you have in Houston or Atlanta where a tall tower rises above a non-downtown portion of the city and changes the landscape in a way a new DT tower would not. In 1MP's case though, the bldg is in the DT area, but so much on the fringe it alters the entire environment radically.

I think the effect of 1MP on the skyline is unique.
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so what's the official story on the core?
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i still see a high rise with a 'Rear Elevation'.
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