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Old October 25th, 2013, 05:49 AM   #1
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HOV lanes (carpool lanes)

does anyone know the ranking for the HOV lanes in cities in the USA and in the world

is there a thread already about this

I Know here in Phoenix every single freeways has HOV lanes
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Old October 25th, 2013, 07:14 AM   #2
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Old October 25th, 2013, 12:26 PM   #3
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HOV lanes are more of an American thing, in Europe they tend to be Bus or Bus/Taxi lanes.
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Old October 25th, 2013, 12:42 PM   #4
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There used to be one on the A1 between Almere and Amsterdam, it is now a tidal lane.
Some funny things happened though by people trying to acces it:

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Old October 25th, 2013, 01:58 PM   #5
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Carpooling is a declining trend in both the U.S. and Canada, due to increased driving alone and improved transit options. There is a trend to convert HOV lanes into HOT or toll express lanes.

Another key consideration with HOV lanes is that it does not actually reduce vehicle miles that much. Studies found that 50-60% of carpoolers are family members who would've carpooled whether there is an HOV lane or not. Therefor, the reduction of traffic in the GP lanes is not as great as traffic on the HOV lanes suggest.

Additionally, many HOV lanes are politically driven projects. HOV lanes are not profitable unless they are the 5th or more lane in areas with high carpool usage (i.e. Los Angeles, parts of the Bay Area). Yet you see many locations with HOV lanes as a third or fourth lane. That's just a waste of available road space.
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Old October 25th, 2013, 02:10 PM   #6
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Carpooling is a declining trend in both the U.S. and Canada, due to increased driving alone and improved transit options.
Another issue is that jobs are becoming less and less time-fixed-for-everyone. When that happens, carpooling becomes harder than, say, if you work on a factory on a fixed schedule.
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I fail to see why would anyone want to ride in a carpool lane. What if you're stuck behind a slow car?
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Old October 25th, 2013, 03:33 PM   #8
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Norway got them:

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Old October 25th, 2013, 03:39 PM   #9
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I fail to see why would anyone want to ride in a carpool lane. What if you're stuck behind a slow car?
If the alternative is the 110 through L.A. on a Friday afternoon 4:30, there's no way any car will make you slower than the normal lanes.
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Old October 25th, 2013, 05:05 PM   #10
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I fail to see why would anyone want to ride in a carpool lane. What if you're stuck behind a slow car?
In some places - I-66 in the Washington area (which, inside the Beltway, has been HOV-only during rush hours, in the peak direction, since it opened in 1982), I believe I-395 in the Washington area - a HOV lane may actually be several lanes. A HOV roadway, if you will. On 395 there's basically a third carriageway which they open to inbound traffic in the morning rush then switch directions some time in the middle of the day. On Washington-area traffic reports they'll sometimes tell you that "the 395 express lanes are open outbound" - I think they're used at other times than rush hours if traffic flow warrants.

So, you wouldn't be stuck. Just pass.
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Old October 25th, 2013, 05:19 PM   #11
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This makes much more sense.
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Old October 25th, 2013, 07:44 PM   #12
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HOV lanes are more of an American thing, in Europe they tend to be Bus or Bus/Taxi lanes.
Why in the world do taxis get the advantage of being able to drive in dedicated lanes? It's got to be the least environmentally sound way of transportation. Anyone know the reasoning behind this?
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Old October 25th, 2013, 08:02 PM   #13
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Norway got them:
Where are these HOV lanes in Norway? Are they on city streets or also on expressways / motorways?
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Old October 25th, 2013, 08:14 PM   #14
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In Spain there are only two cases of HOV lanes: Their name is BUS-VAO, for Bus and High Occupancy Vehicles ("Vehículos de Alta Ocupación"), and they are located in the following motorways:

A-6 (Madrid)

It has a length of 16,600km, and their users are:
- Between km 3,200 and 7,300: Only buses and motorcycles
- Between km 7,300 and 19,800: Buses, motorcycles and 2+ vehicles.

More information about entrances/exits and timetables:
http://www.madrid.es/portal/site/mun...000c205a0aRCRD

Route map (point B is the entrance/exit of private vehicles):
https://www.google.es/maps?saddr=Car...sz=16&t=m&z=13

C-58 (Barcelona)

More information about entrances/exits and timetables:
http://www20.gencat.cat/portal/site/...008d0c1e0aRCRD

(Rough) route map:
https://www.google.es/maps?saddr=Av....p=1&sz=15&z=13

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Bus lanes are generally not considered to be HOV lanes in the classic sense. HOV lanes are for carpools and vanpools, not exclusively for scheduled bus lines (which can use HOV lanes of course).

Europe has many bus lanes, but they are not considered carpool (HOV) lanes. Only very few bus lanes in Europe also allows carpools. Some bus lanes also allow taxis.
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Old October 25th, 2013, 08:41 PM   #16
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Why in the world do taxis get the advantage of being able to drive in dedicated lanes? It's got to be the least environmentally sound way of transportation. Anyone know the reasoning behind this?
You still decrease the number of (parking) cars in the city.
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Old October 25th, 2013, 11:30 PM   #17
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Where are these HOV lanes in Norway? Are they on city streets or also on expressways / motorways?
The ones i think of is trough City-streets trough Trondheim (Rv706), airport road in Bergen (Rv580), Fredrikstad bridge (Rv110) and Fetsund - Lillestrøm (Rv22).

There used to be one on the expressway trough Kristiansand (E18) and discussions is ongoing about converting lanes on more of Bergens expressways (E39).
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Old October 26th, 2013, 12:43 AM   #18
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Madrid A-6 HOV Lanes (BUS-VAO), form M-30 + A-6 + Sinesio Delgado Interchange to Las Rozas Exit…



























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