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Old August 20th, 2017, 03:57 PM   #181
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good stuff. i look forward to the new trains coming in across glasgow too!
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Old August 20th, 2017, 04:05 PM   #182
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what is the current timetable for 385 introduction?
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Old August 22nd, 2017, 03:02 PM   #183
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what is the current timetable for 385 introduction?
Something along the lines of:

December 2017 - Edinburgh - Glasgow via Falkirk High
Summer 2018 - Cathcart Circle / Carstairs / North Berwick
December 2018 - Dunblane / Alloa
May 2019 - Edinburgh - Glasgow via Shotts
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Old October 20th, 2017, 10:44 AM   #184
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Edinburgh to Glasgow electrification takes steps forward

Scotrail - 19th October 2017



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The electrification of the Edinburgh to Glasgow mainline took positive steps forward yesterday, as the ScotRail Alliance prepares for full testing of its new trains on the electrified route.

One of the new Class 385 electric trains – which has still to be fitted with interiors – successfully travelled between Edinburgh and Linlithgow at 02:00 hours on Wednesday 18 October.

This marks clear progress for the infrastructure as this is the first time that an electric train has travelled on any section of the route.

When the final safety checks on the infrastructure along the remainder of the route are complete, full testing of the new trains will begin.

The new fleet will enter passenger service over the next few months, offering faster journeys, more seats and better services for customers travelling between Scotland’s two biggest cities.

ScotRail Alliance Programmes and Transformation Director Ian McConnell, said:

“Yesterday’s trial was a hugely important step towards completing the electrification of the line between Edinburgh and Glasgow. Having a train run on the route is one of the final phases of the electrification process. That it has gone so well tells us that we are almost ready to begin the next stage – which is to start fully testing the new trains themselves.

“We are building the best railway that Scotland has ever had. When we replace the diesel trains with the brand new, state of the art, electric fleet we will deliver enormous benefits to our customers. Cleaner, greener travel – with more seats and faster journeys will completely transform travel between our two biggest cities.”

Hitachi Rail Europe Programme Manager Andy Radford, said:

“It’s positive so see that progress is being made on Edinburgh to Glasgow electrification.

“We’re hopeful that we’ll be given permission to start full testing soon so we can guarantee the trains can run for passengers safely. We’ve now got trains at our factory in Newton Aycliffe ready to travel to Scotland as soon as they can run on new electric power line.”
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Old November 1st, 2017, 06:09 PM   #185
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Old November 7th, 2017, 06:20 PM   #186
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Old December 10th, 2017, 02:34 PM   #187
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First electric revenue services this morning?

https://twitter.com/ScotRail/status/939826420427182080

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Old December 10th, 2017, 11:37 PM   #188
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For anyone interested in such things:

The 1st 7-car passenger service 380 to run from Queen St to Edinburgh, departing Falkirk High. (1R26 08:30 Glasgow Queen Street to Edinburgh).
This was a great run out of Queen St. Good acceleration and very quiet, and eventually arrived into Edinburgh early I’m told.



And the 8:30 from Edinburgh to Glasgow Queen St, departing Croy (1R25).

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Old December 11th, 2017, 12:40 AM   #189
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Definitely interested in such things. Tremendously exciting, and very smart to be using existing electric stock to test everything out before throwing the new 385s onto the line.

Couple of questions then, probably already answered on this thread before (apologies if so);

- Where are the Class 170 Turbostars being sent? Have they now been completely retired from service from the Gla-Edi via Falkirk High route?
- How have they managed to bring in 380s to run in the interim - where has the spare/additional rolling stock come from?
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Old December 11th, 2017, 01:53 AM   #190
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At the moment there are two 7-car 380s operating 7 days a week. They were taken from Inverclyde and North Berwick routes I think. So about 1 in 4 services will be electric until the 385s arrive.

Eventually the 170s will replace older DMUs in Fife and Borders and will also be used on new services being introduced as part of the “Rail Revolution”, ie.
Inverness - Elgin (hourly).
Montrose - Inverurie (hourly).
Dundee - Arbroath (hourly).
Dundee - Glasgow semi fast (hourly). This will allow HST services to skip stops and run faster.
Borders Rail - Fife (hourly).

https://www.scotrail.co.uk/about-sco...ots-passengers
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Old December 11th, 2017, 10:12 PM   #191
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I got on a class 380 at Croy going through to Edinburgh today. Lovely quiet, smooth ride and even though it arrived at Croy 8 mins late, it had made almost all of that up by the time we got to Haymarket, whereupon it sat outside the station waiting for a platform for 4 mins, so ended up being delayed again.

To follow on from David's question, will North Berwick and Inverclyde services get reduced frequency until the 385's come online? Or are they getting some of the 'spare' 170s that aren't now being used on the Falkirk High route?
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Old December 11th, 2017, 11:00 PM   #192
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314s are standing in for the displaced 380s on the Inverclyde runs, and I believe some 318/320s are also running the Cathcart Circles to fill in for the 314s.
170s are on some North Berwick runs.

Once the 385s are in service, the 380s will be back to south of the Clyde and on the North Berwick/Dunbars.
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As said they're from the Inverclyde run, primary use is driver training so I imagine this is them doing live runs now.
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Old December 14th, 2017, 08:09 PM   #194
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I travelled back from Glasgow Queen Street today on one of the alleged new trains. I thought it was horrendous. The interior looked cheap and nasty, it was mostly airline seats with no proper tables only a few stub tables. The seats were thin and uncomfortable.

I hope that the 385 trains are not kitted out the same. If they are I will be back on the 900 Citylink coach from March. If I have to sit in airline seats with no tables, why pay £16 return each day when I can use the 900 for free (with my bus pass) with more comfortable seats?
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Old December 14th, 2017, 10:36 PM   #195
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Not sure anyone has claimed them to be 'new' trains. New to that route perhaps.

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I travelled back from Glasgow Queen Street today on one of the alleged new trains. I thought it was horrendous. The interior looked cheap and nasty, it was mostly airline seats with no proper tables only a few stub tables. The seats were thin and uncomfortable.

I hope that the 385 trains are not kitted out the same. If they are I will be back on the 900 Citylink coach from March. If I have to sit in airline seats with no tables, why pay £16 return each day when I can use the 900 for free (with my bus pass) with more comfortable seats?
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I travelled back from Glasgow Queen Street today on one of the alleged new trains. I thought it was horrendous. The interior looked cheap and nasty, it was mostly airline seats with no proper tables only a few stub tables. The seats were thin and uncomfortable.

I hope that the 385 trains are not kitted out the same. If they are I will be back on the 900 Citylink coach from March. If I have to sit in airline seats with no tables, why pay £16 return each day when I can use the 900 for free (with my bus pass) with more comfortable seats?
Not really sure what the difference is between the 380's and anything else, comfort-wise there isn't much in it between anything we have right now.

As for the interior - it's functional. And a damn sight better than a Voyager that's for sure.
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When will Edinburgh- Glasgow Queen St via Falkirk services be fully electric?
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Old January 9th, 2018, 12:58 AM   #198
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Progress around Stirling:

https://twitter.com/J70JDV/status/950013349823221761

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When will Edinburgh- Glasgow Queen St via Falkirk services be fully electric?
I heard a suggestion of March 2018.
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