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Old December 7th, 2007, 01:09 AM   #61
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91 stories, over 500m and also a hotel? Not possible. Maybe they're only talking of it being taller than the emirates towers.
if it wasnt then why would they say this
Dodds said the 91-storey hotel will become the second tallest building in the emirate

the 2nd tallest in emirates is the Pentominium
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Old December 7th, 2007, 01:18 AM   #62
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if it wasnt then why would they say this
Dodds said the 91-storey hotel will become the second tallest building in the emirate

the 2nd tallest in emirates is the Pentominium
Because they don't know about the other towers. They're probably just considering the famous landmarks such as emirates towers and burj dubai
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Old December 7th, 2007, 01:21 AM   #63
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Any chance of a zoom in of that central section? I am intrigued by it......
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Old December 7th, 2007, 01:21 AM   #64
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Usually when developers advertise their towers, they don't count upcoming competition unless it is well along in construction (ie, they would count burj dubai but not, say, burj al alam). My guess is that it WILL be taller than emirates office tower and Almas tower, but not taller than BAA, Pentominium, and maybe not Princess and Marina 101.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 02:06 AM   #65
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Well look at Federation Tower in Moscow at 506m... It's U/C and only has 93F as well, so this seems probable, don't you think?
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Old December 7th, 2007, 02:58 AM   #66
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Although that's one because of a massive pole, the actual tower itsself doesn't even reach 400m
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Old December 7th, 2007, 09:30 AM   #67
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yes malec i agree with u,they are only counting burj dubai,almas and emirates tower.but,i guess that would be silly as there are a host of other supertalls goin up ATM in the marina.so who knows,it's a very confusing and an ambiguous statement.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 10:14 AM   #68
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Hard Rock's first hotel in Dubai to cost $1 billion!

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DUBAI -- The first Hard Rock Hotel Dubai, to be built with Tasameem Group at a cost of Dh3.67 billion ($1 billion) and fully operational in four years, marks the global brand's foray into the hotel industry in the Middle East.



Hamish Dodds, president and CEO of Hard Rock International, said the brand is making exception of its planned properties in the UAE with regard to its "business philosophy of direct ownership through direct investment".


He said this local market is best approached through a partnership with local players such as Tasameem, its Abu Dhabi-based partner for the 91-storey property that will rise on Shaikh Zayed Road.


The global brand, owned by Seminole Hard Rock Entertainment Inc, will look to Abu Dhabi for its next hotel property, as well as to Muscat and Doha. The Arab countries of Bahrain and Egypt are also on the list.


Dodds said Hard Rock will build a cafÈ in Jeddah as its "entry point" into Saudi Arabia, the biggest economy among the six member-states of the Gulf Cooperation Council.


He stressed that the brand has been receiving "great response" from investors in the Middle East and Asia, prompting Hard Rock management to consider stretching its hotel chain into China's administrative regions of Macau and Hong Kong, Tokyo and Vietnam.


He said a Hard Rock hotel has the "uniqueness" in branding as it blends quality music programming that appeals to customers from all walks of life with quality restaurants and service.


The brand's hotel even goes with a recording studio to encourage world-class musicians to take part in Hard Rock's entertainment programmes, he added.


"The music studio is an integral part of every Hard Rock hotel as the brand is associated with the travel, entertainment and hospitality industries," Dodds said.


In countries or areas where the gaming entertainment is allowed, a Hard Rock hotel will be fitted with casinos such as its properties in Las Vegas, Orlando, Chicago, Pattaya (Thailand) and Bali (Indonesia). Hard Rock has 121 "high-energy" cafes and eight hotels and casinos in 47 countries. Its hotel and casino projects in Macau will open in 2009 and another one in Palm Spring by 2010.

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"$1 billion",now that's an expensive hotel (according to gulf standards),they are either goin for a very tall one here or a very quality one,or maybe a mixture of a bit of both.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 12:39 PM   #69
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Wasn't the estimated cost of the Burj Dubai $1 Bn as well?

That's a lot to spend on a 91 storey building!
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Old December 7th, 2007, 02:31 PM   #70
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i reckon burj dubai ended up costing more than $1 billion,but the point is $1 billion is still a lotta money for a hotel !
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Burj Dubai cost $800m for the concrete structure alone, so then you have to add the price for the spire, the cladding and the interiors
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You forgot MEP works, which contract alone was more then $200m.
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Old December 8th, 2007, 12:13 AM   #73
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Wasn't the estimated cost of the Burj Dubai $1 Bn as well?

That's a lot to spend on a 91 storey building!
Actually - it isn't a lot for such a structure. A building coming up currently in Calgary, called the Bow, has a price tag of $1.1B - and it is only 58 floors / ~800feet. 91 storey building for $1B is quite reasonable, and I'm guessing only possible given the much cheaper labour.
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Old December 8th, 2007, 12:20 AM   #74
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but the point is $1 billion is still a lotta money for a hotel !
in vegas that would barely get you the land to build the hotel in the first place Wynn cost $2.8 billion 5 years ago and hotels going up on the Strip today are costing $5-8 billion
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Old December 8th, 2007, 12:55 AM   #75
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This is probably one of the best looking buildings I have ever seen. The top 1/4 is intrigueing. I love it. Next to Chelsea tower this is my new favorite building in Dubai.
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Old December 8th, 2007, 12:59 AM   #76
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in vegas that would barely get you the land to build the hotel in the first place Wynn cost $2.8 billion 5 years ago and hotels going up on the Strip today are costing $5-8 billion
Thing is they're massive in all 3 dimensions as opposed to just 1 here.
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End they make money ... alot of money ... with the Casinos they host inside.
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Old December 8th, 2007, 01:35 AM   #78
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in vegas that would barely get you the land to build the hotel in the first place Wynn cost $2.8 billion 5 years ago and hotels going up on the Strip today are costing $5-8 billion
read my previous post,i said in post #58 "according to gulf standards".of course down here in sydney a good 50 storey would also end up costing almost or more than a billion bucks.but as malec & altind pointed out those are massive multi-dimensional buildings built to churn out cold-hard cash
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The top 1/4 is intrigueing.

I think the middle section is definitely more intrigueing.....
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The approved Hard Rock Hotel to be built with Tasameem Group at a cost of US$ 1 billion dollars in Dubai, UAE.

"Hard Rock Hotel Dubai guest rooms will be furnished to meet international five-star deluxe standards, incorporating Hard Rock's tradition of providing luxury, quality service and amenities with a unique rock 'n' roll edge. The hotel will contain destination dining venues, all-day restaurants and high-energy bar locations, offering both locals and hotel guests a place to see and be seen. The hotel will offer approximately 32,000 square feet of dedicated meeting and banquet space, as well as spa facilities featuring an extensive menu of spa treatments. The pool, a quintessential Hard Rock element, will be a focal arena for both music and relaxation and a social gathering place for high net worth individuals and glamour seekers alike."
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