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Old December 6th, 2006, 08:19 PM   #1
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NORTH CAROLINA | Heart of The Triad

Heart of the Triad plan could have $313 million net impact

http://www.bizjournals.com/triad/stories/2...tml?jst=b_ln_hl

Its interesting. The proposal includes a heritage museum for (Textiles, Furniture and Tobbaco). Greensboro's PGA event was also mention in the proposal.
The event would be relocated to a new course at the heart of the Triad and would be part of a sports venue district anchored by a major league soccer stadium. The stadium would also be used for state, college (ACC, NCAA) and national soccer tournaments.

The Charette mentions that a resort town center could be a part of the Heart of The Triad and could include time sharing residential housing a conference center, hotels, retail/food/entertainment.

Streetcars were also mentioned as being a possibilty in some of the urban developments proposed for heart of the Triad.

The heart of The Triad would be divided into district (retail/entertainment district, mixed-use district, Sports Venue district, employment district for companies, research and large scale hitech (biotech/nanotech) manufacturing facilities, ect....
The retail district would include a regional mall that would likely be larger than Four Season or Hanes Mall. Also retail villages and recreational retail such as Bass Pro Shop. The planned commuter rail would tie the Heart of The Triad development with the cities of Greensboro and Winston-Salem. A major commuter rail station would be built near the sports venue district.

The heart of the Triad would include an International Technology Center, Combined University Center and specialized State/Federal Facilties.

here is a link to the Charette
http://www.partnc.org/images/HOTChar...mmaryFinal.pdf
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That is a very nice charette I went through the PDF summary a little fast, but I saw a lot of great concepts presented. Thanks for sharing it with us.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:29 PM   #3
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you are welcome. The plan is a tall order and funding for a major league soccer stadium will be a challenge. but overall I like the plan. It really does unite Greensboro, Winston-Salem and High Point.
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Heart of The Triad update

Officials get Heart of the Triad plan update

The Business Journal of the Greater Triad Area - 2:57 PM EST Monday
by Matt Harrington

Elected officials from six NC jurisdictions -- the cities of High Point, Greensboro, Kernersville and Winston-Salem and Forsyth and Guilford counties -- were briefed on the progress of the Heart of the Triad plan Monday afternoon.

And while nearly all lauded the efforts of the steering and technical committees thus far, many raised questions as to how the potential economic development resulting from the plan could be explained to residents and formulated under state law.


Winston-Salem city councilman Robert Clark, for example, asked about the political realities of explaining to landowners that some, in areas designated for development, would become millionaires, while others, who own land designed to remain green space, wouldn't have that chance.

While several elected officials serve on the Heart of the Triad steering committee -- two were appointed from each jurisdiction -- it was the first meeting where all elected officials were invited since the land-use and transportation planning process began nearly two years ago.

Those elected officials were not asked to take action at this meeting, although they will be asked to adopt a resolution generally supporting the Heart of the Triad concept, and supporting the idea of working together, in March.

The Heart of the Triad is an effort to define land-use and transportation plans for about 18,000 acres along the Forsyth and Guilford county line. Included in that acreage is about 6,300 acres where consultants suggest the counties and cities could join forces to market the region for distinct types of economic development.

The four economic development types being proposed in the concept plan, which has been adopted by the Heart of the Triad steering committee, are:

High-tech manufacturing, such as nanotechnology;

Logistics and transportation;

A retirement and lifestyle community that could include a championship golf course, hotel and conference center,

and; A collaborative, international intellectual asset center that could bring together area colleges and universities for a kind of "joint campus" for learning and research.

David Taylor, a vice president of HDR Inc., the consulting firm that has helped lead the project, said that the land-use plan for the 18,000 acres would accommodate 123,000 people and 135,000 employees. Of those figures, the smaller area that would require the most regional cooperation would hold 50,000 people and about 74,000 jobs.

Winston-Salem Mayor Allen Joines asked if having a high-tech focus would make the area compete with the Piedmont Triad Research Park in downtown Winston-Salem and the Gateway University Research Park in Greensboro.

Gayle Anderson, president of the Winston-Salem chamber and a member of the technical committee, said that wouldn't be the case. Instead, the high-tech portion of the Heart of the Triad would be aimed at recruiting the larger manufacturing facilities of drug companies, which wouldn't fit in the research parks in Greensboro or Winston-Salem.
Elected officials, who had already received copies of some of the research included in the project, heard from Cantey Alexander of BB&T on the potential business impact; from Nancy Dunn, the Division 9 representative to the N.C. Department of Transportation, on road issues; and, from Henry Isaacson, chairman of the Piedmont Triad Airport Authority, on the need for more development to support the airport.

While some of the questions asked by elected officials had answers -- Winston-Salem head planner Paul Norby said that yes, the city's Legacy development plan was being considered as the Heart of the Triad plan was developed -- other questions won't be answered until further on in the process.


One of the biggest questions is what level of cooperation might local governments be willing to try in that 6,300 acres. State legislation does allow for cost and revenue sharing projects among local governments, and Anderson said the technical and steering committees would look into the specifics.

Robbie Perkins, president of NAI/Maxwell in Greensboro and the co-chair of the steering committee, said that his committee would meet in late February to approve the final draft land-use plan and to finalize a resolution of support to send to local governments. He said he hoped local governments would consider the resolution in March, giving Heart of the Triad organizers time to lobby state elected officials for more funding for continued study of the project.

Many citizens living in the Heart of the Triad area have expressed concern about the future of their land, some of which has been in the same families for generations.

Heart of the Triad organizers have said that the goal is simply to prepare better for development, which will take place with or without a plan. The project, they say, is not an attempt to buy or take parcels of land from landowners. But some of those landowners, Heart of the Triad proponents argue, will sell, which is why land-use plans should be put in place in an attempt to reduce the chance of more urban sprawl.
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Actually I think its a good idea. The area between Greensboro and Winston-Salem is going to get developed wether we have a Heart of the Triad plan or not. I like the Heart of the Triad plan because it promotes less sprawl and it helps ensure that the area between Greensboro and Winston-Salem doesnt look like West Wendover Ave in 15 to 20 years. At least there is a plan here unlike what would happen if we didnt have a plan.his is going to be a very thought out project and you are going to see unique urban developments. I like how the regional commuter rail will be incorporated in this plan and I also like the eduactional research manufacturing campus because it wont compete with PTRP or GURP. Those research parks arent large enough to accomidate very large hitech/nanotech/biotech manufacturing plants.most importantly, this Project will help the Triad cities become one unit and that is important if we are going to compete with big major metropolitan areas.

here are some of the ideas and the type of development you should expect to see

http://www.partnc.org/images/HOTCharretteOutcomes.pdf

http://www.partnc.org/images/HOTChar...mmaryFinal.pdf
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I cannot say anything in relation to the specifics, except that I really enjoyed the charrette documents. Loved the town and village center, as well as the urban neighborhoods, but I surely hope nothing like the retail/entertainment complex gets built as envisioned... That would ruin everything the Triad is trying to accomplish with this proposal. Hopefully, the Triad will come together and work hard on this concept. It would be a great example of metros like ours need to achieve. Without cooperation and common ground there is no chance for prosperity.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 11:29 PM   #8
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Actually I think its a good idea. The area between Greensboro and Winston-Salem is going to get developed wether we have a Heart of the Triad plan or not. I like the Heart of the Triad plan because it promotes less sprawl and it helps ensure that the area between Greensboro and Winston-Salem doesnt look like West Wendover Ave in 15 to 20 years. At least there is a plan here unlike what would happen if we didnt have a plan.his is going to be a very thought out project and you are going to see unique urban developments. I like how the regional commuter rail will be incorporated in this plan and I also like the eduactional research manufacturing campus because it wont compete with PTRP or GURP. Those research parks arent large enough to accomidate very large hitech/nanotech/biotech manufacturing plants.most importantly, this Project will help the Triad cities become one unit and that is important if we are going to compete with big major metropolitan areas.

here are some of the ideas and the type of development you should expect to see

http://www.partnc.org/images/HOTCharretteOutcomes.pdf

http://www.partnc.org/images/HOTChar...mmaryFinal.pdf
your city's newspaper is now questioneing the "benefit" of this development. im telling you, all these presentations and graphics look nice, but this is the last thing the Triad needs. we're having a hard time fightinig sprawl as it is.

from news-record.com:

Area officials worry about Heart of the Triad

"...They’ve competed with each other over jobs, big business developments such as Dell and FedEx — and even residential growth. But for Greensboro, Winston-Salem, High Point and Kernersville — and Guilford and Forsyth counties — future competition may come from an emerging region."

"...The efforts of Heart of the Triad must not suck away from the efforts of governments," said Winston-Salem Mayor Allen Joines at a meeting discussing the Heart of the Triad."

Specifically, Joines and others were concerned the new region could draw future companies away from business parks in Greensboro and Winston-Salem created for the biotech industry.


Mayor Allen Joines is the MAN!!! he was the first city leader to bring everyone back to reality.

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