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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:02 PM   #41
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Nice Gene Kaufman zebra stripes!









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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:07 PM   #42
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Yes, that is 80 South Street and it had been mentioned that Howard Hughes Development which Brookfield Properties is also a major stake holder is trying to acquire it. Haven't heard anything on it recently.
Morali's been quiet about their "ecotastic tower" since March. It is approved so whoever wishes to take it on can build.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:18 PM   #43
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Nice Gene Kaufman zebra stripes!
Ouch. You just took SHoP down a notch with that one. Low blow.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:48 PM   #44
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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:52 PM   #45
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Look better than the previous design IMO
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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:59 PM   #46
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it looks like it will be a good rebirth, imo.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 10:02 PM   #47
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If they would bury that highway it would be a more pleasant place. Of course, it's not going to happen.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 10:31 PM   #48
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Interesting, the glassiness is much more pronounced in the renders than in the model, and it also appears there's a slight twist? A bit like the De Young Museum tower in San Francisco.


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If they would bury that highway it would be a more pleasant place. Of course, it's not going to happen.
Not to keep coming back to San Francisco as a point of reference, but the Embarcadero is one of the great urban revitalization stories of the last 30 years. Scrapping the earthquake-damaged freeway that cut off the waterfront from the rest of SF, the city turned the Embarcadero into a gorgeous, airy, palm-tree-lined promenade.

NY, with so much prime waterfront, really deserves something similar, although I agree the logistics (and politics) of burying or eliminating the highway, would make it extremely difficult.
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Old November 21st, 2014, 07:50 AM   #49
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I just despise the NIMBYs... hate they had to even make this compromise but I hope the community board approves it even if the nimby pambys whine that it's still not this, or still not that... they get a school and a really nice public esplanade so please shut up already. While I think the design might have been better if they were to have stuck to a higher building, 42 stories and just under 500 ft is still a nice achievement and I hope it gets done.

I do think the renders look even better than the models.... it definitely has a unique look and feel and I like the contrasts.
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 12:19 AM   #50
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Look better than the previous design IMO
Agreed. It took me a minute, but the more I studied it the more I like it.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 12:43 AM   #51
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Gosh, the thing is just...god awfully atrocious...
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Old November 24th, 2014, 12:46 AM   #52
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I liked the old tower design more.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 07:42 PM   #53
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This proposal is interesting... It's kind of reminding me of baltimore's inner harbor. New York could use another public space like that. Now.. All they need to add too this proposal is a giant aquarium.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 11:54 PM   #54
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via shop architects | Seaport Tower


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This looks like a nice tower! I wonder what this is for?? 360 Tenth?? Dunno
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Old November 25th, 2014, 02:17 AM   #55
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Very interesting! That doesn't look like a real street grid though, so it might just be a massing study.
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Old December 5th, 2014, 08:34 PM   #56
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EDC chief: Seaport alternative is 'red herring'

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As Manhattan Councilwoman Margaret Chin and Borough President Gale Brewer continue to object to a proposed tower that would fund $305 million worth of improvements to the South Street Seaport area, city Economic Development Corp. President Kyle Kimball dismissed the idea of relocating the building, as opponents suggest.

"Moving it to the south is a red herring," Mr. Kimball said during a Crain's editorial board meeting Wednesday. The alternative site floated by foes is just a block away, but would result in higher costs and thus generate less money for community benefits. It would also require building a new pier, whereas the developer's plan calls for rebuilding the deteriorated one, as the administration wants. Moreover, it would require starting from scratch on a rezoning and on negotiations for state Department of Environmental Conservation approval.

The comments by the head of the city's primary economic-development agency reflect Mayor Bill de Blasio's desire to see the City Council and developer reach a deal on the $1.5 billion proposal at hand, which checks off all the boxes on the mayor's wish list for the project, beginning with affordable housing. —EE
NIMBY Queen Gale Brewer: "Not by the hair on my chinny chin multiple chins!"

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Old December 24th, 2014, 12:48 AM   #57
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The headline of Justin Davidson's headliner cracks me up! lol.

A Proposed Megatower on the Pier Would Wreck the South Street Seaport
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...t-seaport.html

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Old December 24th, 2014, 03:08 AM   #58
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love the design - hope it gets U/C
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Old February 26th, 2015, 09:35 PM   #59
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Great video from SCI-Arc, with a lecture on the SHoP's philosophies by principal Gregg Pasquarelli. At the 15:19 mark, he talks about the 2-mile stretch of the East River waterfront they've been commissioned to redevelop, and at the 23:00 mark, he goes into South Street Seaport specifically, and in terrific detail. He doesn't talk about the tower too much, except to say that it's the primary revenue generator for the project, and that he's not sure they will win the political battle to build it, but that aside, it's a really fascinating look at the Seaport project as a whole:

http://sma.sciarc.edu/video/gregg-pa...ver-ever-dont/
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NIMBY Seaport shark feed

Pols want alternatives to developer's $1.5 billion project

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Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer and Councilwoman Margaret Chin say they are in talks with developers to come up with an alternative to Howard Hughes Corp.'s plan at the South Street Seaport.


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Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer and City Councilwoman Margaret Chin are in talks with several developers with the aim of proposing alternatives to Howard Hughes Corp.’s planned revamp of the South Street Seaport, the lawmakers told Crain’s Thursday. The existing plan includes a controversial 494-foot spire.

“[The tower] is out of context for a historic district,” Ms. Brewer said in an interview, doubling down on her long-standing opposition to the residential development. "We have been talking to other developers, but it has been very back-of-the-napkin."

Ms. Brewer said several firms have come up with alternative strategies, but the discussions have not coalesced into a concrete proposal.

The tower would rise on a pier just outside the landmarked South Street Seaport Historic District. And though the apartment building would stand within the borders of state and federal historic registry areas, such designations would not prevent its construction.

Ms. Brewer and Ms. Chin declined to reveal the names of the developers they are conferring with or when a proposal might be forthcoming, but both said a new plan might simply drop the tower.

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