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Old May 14th, 2015, 05:54 AM   #181
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Isn't freedom to let other people live how they wanted to?!
or that excluded to middle eastern!
we live based on our religion and culture and guess what we are totally happy.
and I don't wanna hear that from people that do (swapping couples or wives for sex, have sex with animals, group sex, drugs, etc.)
Do you really think your life is mentally healthy!
and we don't wanna prove from you on our development since it meant to us citizen of Saudi Arabia.
You want to give us respect and contribute here your welcome otherwise just ignore the thread.
and remember that you freedom, rights, and culture ends in your country border and not meant for all countries!!!
Please don't invoke the word "freedom" when you are in fact defending a regime and society that spits on the very concept of individual freedom.

Without individual freedom any talk of "freedom" is a charade and a bunch of crap. And you also don't speak for all Saudis who would in fact like a bit more liberty and choice in their lives. Be it moderate Muslims, atheist, gays, political dissidents, Shia etc. You don't speak for them when you say that all are happy.
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Old May 14th, 2015, 08:24 AM   #182
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Isn't freedom to let other people live how they wanted to?!
or that excluded to middle eastern!
we live based on our religion and culture and guess what we are totally happy.
and I don't wanna hear that from people that do (swapping couples or wives for sex, have sex with animals, group sex, drugs, etc.)
Do you really think your life is mentally healthy!
and we don't wanna prove from you on our development since it meant to us citizen of Saudi Arabia.
You want to give us respect and contribute here your welcome otherwise just ignore the thread.
and remember that you freedom, rights, and culture ends in your country border and not meant for all countries!!!
You dont need religion to stop yourself from doing those bad things. Anyone who need religion for that has serious problem.
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Old May 14th, 2015, 02:42 PM   #183
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not sure how this relates to HSR development
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Old May 18th, 2015, 02:58 PM   #184
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HSR entrance in Jeddah Central Station, which requires rebuilding the intersection of King Abdullah Road completely.







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Old May 18th, 2015, 11:43 PM   #185
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What firm is delivering the high-speed trains in S.Arabia ?
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Old May 19th, 2015, 02:14 AM   #186
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What firm is delivering the high-speed trains in S.Arabia ?
Talgo provides High speed train(up to 350km/h) while CAF provides quasi-high speed Diesel intercity trainsets(up to 200km/h).
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Old June 12th, 2015, 01:51 AM   #187
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Old June 27th, 2015, 01:46 AM   #188
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Old July 7th, 2015, 06:28 PM   #189
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Saudi HS line "on schedule" for 2017 opening
Tuesday, July 07, 2015



IRJ at the UIC High-Speed Rail World Congress, Tokyo: CONSTRUCTION of Saudi Arabia's Haramain high-speed line is back on schedule and services will be running on the entire route within 18 months, according to Renfe, which will operate the 450km line from Mecca to Jeddah and Medina

Renfe is a member of the Spanish Al-Shoula consortium, which is equipping the new line and will operate and maintain it for 12 years.

"I think we can open the entire line by 1 January 2017 and we have caught up with the delays," Renfe chairman and CEO Mr Pablo Vázquez told IRJ at the UIC High-Speed Rail World Congress in Tokyo on July 8, adding that Saudi Railways Organisation (SRO) plans to open the 320km section between King Abdullah Economic City (KAEC) in Rabigh and Medina earlier than the remainder of the line to Mecca

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Old July 8th, 2015, 03:30 PM   #190
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Talgo provides High speed train(up to 350km/h) while CAF provides quasi-high speed Diesel intercity trainsets(up to 200km/h).
Shame that they're not going full-electric when they're basically building this network from scratch. What's the justification for the diesel units?
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Old July 15th, 2015, 03:15 AM   #191
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001.000 Station Mecca
005.400 Light Workshop (first level)
006.200 PAET 1
034.800 PAET 2
036.000 Substation 1
063.000 CP 1
078.500 Jeddah Central Station
092.800 By-pass for Jeddah KAIA Airport
100.900 Incorporation from by-pass for Jeddah KAIA Airport
112,000 Substation 2
125,000 Main depot and PAET 3
157,900 PB 4
181,800 Station Rabigh-KAEC
189.200 Substation 3
224,000 PB 5
251.300 Substation 4
254,500 PAET 4
281.700 PB 6
312.200 PAET 5
336.100 Substation 5
340.300 CP 7
361,500 PAET 6
394.700 PB 8
420.700 PAET 7
422,000 Substation 6
426,000 heavy Workshop (first and second level)
449.117 Station Medina

PAET: it's like a station but without commercial service
PB: serve to switch from track 1 to track 2

There will be twelve steps for camels of 52.90 m each, ppkk: 025.750 / 051.700 / 136.700 / 162.700 / 195.460 / 231.476 / 273.055 / 298.855 / 309.577 / 324.655 / 366.000 / 382.400

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Shame that they're not going full-electric when they're basically building this network from scratch. What's the justification for the diesel units?
I presume that going diesel would cost less for them. For countries like France, Germany, Japan, Korea and China, which have to import all of their energy source, savings made by going electric(by using cheaper power source like coal, nuclear power and natural gas) justifies heavy investment on electrification, while in SA where petroleum is abundant electrification saves nothing but maintenance cost of trains themselves(which is not enough to justify heavy investment)
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Old July 15th, 2015, 11:13 AM   #193
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Shame that they're not going full-electric when they're basically building this network from scratch. What's the justification for the diesel units?
The Talgo 350 SRO VIP dual (hybrid) is an institutional train that can travel all lines of Arabia.

CAF diesel for SAR is for North-South Line, Al Hadithah (border with Jordan)-Riad, non-electrified line.
There are 5 push-pull trains diesel, for night service with seats, berths and car holder 21.21 M €

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Old July 15th, 2015, 08:52 PM   #194
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Bad news!

SRO has canceled the additional order of 6 Talgo diesel trains for Riyadh-Dammam line. 201 M $ (186 M €).
(In spanish)

Good news!

The Talgo 350 SRO began to roll in test yesterday between KAEC and Medina.
(In spanish)
The trial period may last around three months.
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Old July 16th, 2015, 09:38 PM   #195
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I presume that going diesel would cost less for them. For countries like France, Germany, Japan, Korea and China, which have to import all of their energy source, savings made by going electric(by using cheaper power source like coal, nuclear power and natural gas) justifies heavy investment on electrification, while in SA where petroleum is abundant electrification saves nothing but maintenance cost of trains themselves(which is not enough to justify heavy investment)
Well, I'm not an engineer, but I'd assume there's an additional reason which also explains the "lack" of electrification in, say, Russia and Canada: there's a huge loss of energy if you need to draw electric lines and catenaries through the middle of nowhere. In countries like Japan and Germany this is different, of course, because they have high - voltage wires and transformator stations across the nation. - But in Saudi Arabia?
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Old July 17th, 2015, 01:43 PM   #196
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http://www.expansion.com/empresas/tr...ml?cid=SIN8901

First video of one of the test on the high speed tracks.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 02:54 PM   #197
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Old July 19th, 2015, 10:49 AM   #198
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That CAF diesel is one of the best looking DMUs out there.
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Old July 19th, 2015, 10:51 AM   #199
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I don't believe it's a DMU
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Old July 19th, 2015, 12:34 PM   #200
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It is a push-pull train, at least the daytime version (4 trains). The night version (2 trains) has up to 4 car holder, so perhaps no more than a normal locomotive.

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