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Old April 28th, 2014, 12:11 PM   #61
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I know it isn't practical at all, but would be quite awesome if the old station could be brought back to life. Or maybe I'm just such a nostalgic...


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Old April 29th, 2014, 05:11 PM   #62
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Interesting. Medina's gonna be a terminus station? I guess no provisions for expanding through Medina. What a gorgeous station.
It is a terminus, although it seems like there is some provision for through service. I spot on google earth a cut and cover box running along the eastern side of the building:



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I know it isn't practical at all, but would be quite awesome if the old station could be brought back to life. Or maybe I'm just such a nostalgic...


It's a museum now.
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Completion of 80% of Medina Haramain train station station





15 May 2014


21 April 2014


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Old May 19th, 2014, 01:01 AM   #65
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Model of the last design for the Talgo high-speed trainset shown on the Spanish Television during the meeting of the Arabian and Spanish governments this weekend:



Video of the TVE news program (in Spanish): http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/t...05-14/2569371/
(Report on the Arabian-Spanish meeting: minute 14)
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Old May 21st, 2014, 01:36 AM   #66
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Talgo begins manufacturing
the first trains for AVE Mecca-Medina


Talgo empieza a fabricar los primeros trenes
para el AVE La Meca-Medina


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MADRID, 20 ( EUROPA PRESS ) 20 May 2014

Talgo has begun manufacturing the first units of the 35 high speed trains that provide tools to exploit the Mecca -Medina AVE in plants in Madrid and has Rivabellosa (Álava ) , according to the group.

The rail manufacturer is incorporating these units AVE special elements that can adapt to temperatures up to 55 degrees and sandstorms that occur in the desert of Saudi Arabia for the trains that will run .

Talgo train made ​​a presentation which will provide for the Arab AVE in Jeddah , in the framework of the official visit to King Juan Carlos has made the country accompanied by several ministers and a group of companies .

The train manufacturer is part of the consortium of public and private companies in late 2011 the AVE Mecca -Medina, the largest contract ever accomplished was awarded abroad . The company, in addition to providing the trains, will be responsible for subsequent maintenance for twelve years.

As for the AVE trains, Talgo reported that manufacturing incorporated the so-called ' desert package ' , which includes a number of solutions installed in vehicles in order to "turn the train in a virtually watertight compartment in front of the sand and high temperatures "of the country .

Thus, the train will have a design that will prevent abrasion effect , which involves placing a special protection on windows and other exterior areas and improved paints and coatings.

In addition , will have refrigeration and air conditioning to ensure high power in trains lower temperatures than in European environments.

SEALED TO DUST

To prevent the entry of dust and sand in the train systems and inside , the vehicles have improved sealing systems in the mechanical elements (doors, refrigeration and rolling , etc.) and systems filter . Furthermore, the speed train will have a internal overpressure to prevent ingress of air and dust from the outside.

The desert AVE Talgo factory will also be the lightest of its type train , as will occur in aluminum and have a minimum weight, " reduced power consumption and high acceleration capacity ."

The Talgo train has capacity to carry 417 passengers , divided into two classes, and also has a cafe area . In a statement , the maker highlighted the scale of the interior spaces and their design, " Reflecting the Saudi culture ."


Original text in Spanish: MADRID, 20 (EUROPA PRESS)

Talgo ha comenzado a fabricar las primeras unidades de los 35 trenes de Alta Velocidad que suministrará para explotar el AVE La Meca-Medina en las plantas que tiene en Madrid y en Rivabellosa (Álava), según informó el grupo.

El fabricante ferroviario está incorporando a estas unidades del AVE elementos especiales para que puedan adaptarse a las temperaturas de hasta 55 grados y a las tormentas de arena que se registran en la zona de desierto de Arabia Saudí por las que circularán los trenes.

Talgo realizó una presentación del tren que suministrará para el AVE árabe en Yeddah, en el marco de la visita oficial que el Rey don Juan Carlos ha realizado al país acompañado de un varios ministros y un grupo de empresas.

El fabricante de trenes forma parte del consorcio de empresas públicas y privadas que a finales de 2011 se adjudicó el AVE La Meca-Medina, el mayor contrato logrado nunca en el extranjero. La empresa, además de aportar los trenes, se encargará de su posterior mantenimiento durante doce años.

En cuanto a los trenes AVE, Talgo informó de que en su fabricación incorporarán el denominado 'paquete desértico', que engloba una serie de soluciones instaladas a bordo de los vehículos con el fin de "convertir el tren en un compartimento prácticamente estanco frente a la arena y a las altas temperaturas" del país.

Así, el tren tendrá un diseño que evitará el efecto de abrasión, que supone colocar una protección especial en ventanas y otras zonas exteriores y pinturas y recubrimientos mejorados.

Además, contará con equipos de refrigeración y de aire acondicionado de alta potencia para garantizar dentro de los trenes temperaturas más bajas que en los entornos europeos.

SELLADO ANTE EL POLVO.

Para evitar la entrada de polvo y arena en los sistemas del tren y en su interior, los vehículos cuentan con una mejora de los sistemas de sellado en los elementos mecánicos (puertas, equipos de refrigeración y la rodadura, entre otros) y de los sistemas de filtros. Además, el tren AVE tendrá una sobrepresión interior para evitar la entrada de aire y polvo desde el exterior.

El AVE del desierto que fabrica Talgo será además el tren más ligero de su tipología, dado que se producirá en aluminio y tendrá así un peso mínimo, con "un reducido consumo de energía y alta capacidad de aceleración".

El tren de Talgo cuenta con capacidad para transportar a 417 pasajeros, distribuidos en dos clases, y tiene además una zona de cafetería. En un comunicado, el fabricante destacó la amplitud de los espacios interiores y su diseño, "reflejo de la cultura saudí".

http://noticias.lainformacion.com/ec...XheQMm8nGgPk1/
an other article: http://www.expansion.com/2014/05/19/...400523148.html
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Old May 21st, 2014, 01:45 AM   #67
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Old May 26th, 2014, 09:14 PM   #69
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i guess we need this pic !

this is Haram boundary , following this pic. the haram boundary inside the mecca city ,

so i guess some place in mecca city is allowable . and around of the holy mosque s not allow.
Mecca station is inside the Haram zone. Madinah isn't.
This situation is actually going to be a problem when ASC receives the Mecca station and lots of spanish engineers (mostly non muslims) will need to visit it.

Anyway there is a special permit that non muslims can get but as it happens in Saudi Arabia it's so bureaucratic and very slow.
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Old May 28th, 2014, 01:31 PM   #71
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Never before was a more selfish signature seen.


Anyway, the station has interesting architecture.
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Im confused,

Is it closed and airconditioned or are we expecting heat, dust and humidity ?
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Old May 28th, 2014, 11:04 PM   #73
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(Of course the trains sets are air conditioned, plus a package of measures to prevent small grained dust flows to cause damages and nuisances...)

For the Google Earth addicted infrastructure junkies:

I have crated a KMZ file for google earth which shows the entire high speed line. One can observe that no civil works need to be carried out, no tunnel nor noteworthy bridges. As can be expected, the alignment runs mostly through desert. Though, the alignment offers some interesting spots to dig into with Google Earth, notably the huge terminal stations, the urban penetration in Mekkah and Dschidda. While higher social residential areas are avoided, the line calls for bulldozers to roll out its alignment through some poorer housing areas in the southern leg.

The Google Earth file is part of what I call "The Modern Long Distance Rail Infrastructure Project (MLRIP)", the idea is to have all new medium and high speed railway lines traced in Google Earth including its tunnels, stations and other infrastructure. Only lines that are built on completely new alignments are included, no upgrades of existing lines.

You'll find the KMZ here:
http://retrofutur.org/rail

You'll also find the KMZ of Spains High Speed Lines. Morokko, Algeria, Turkey, Israel, Italy and Austria are on the way.

Enjoy :-)

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That line in Google earth is wrong specially in jeddah
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That line in Google earth is wrong specially in jeddah
Thank you for the hint. I updated the alignment in southern Jeddah according to the latest imagery. Only a short stretch north of Jeddah Station remains unclear (as well as the totally missing airport branch, nothing can be found on the imagery so far).
is it correct now? Are you now satisified?
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The Line Albacete Alicante in Spain has just received the aproval to use ERTMS/ECTS level 2, this is just one year after it started operations at 200 Km/h under asfa digital. Therefore you can expect the same or worst for Meca Medina HSL. Remember this message, start operating the line does not mean start operating the line at 300 Km/h +. ERMTS/ECTS level 2 requires a lot of testing, it is the best system, but it is expensive and hard to implement. Saudi people are not really aware of how long it will take to have this HSL fully operational.
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Well, I guess the Saudi bought the HSL as a package, as a turn key project with a well defined date to delivery. It is then in the duty of who leads the project and his contractors to finish the system on time.

I think ERMTS should be reasonably fast to deploy now. After so many experiences in many countries it should be managed by the industry in an efficient way...
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saudi landbridge high speed rail

Makes me wonder why not KSA should construct first a network of standard railroads before proceeding to HSR projects. Nonetheless, its an interesting move from the government to improved the country transport infrastructure...
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PCT completes Roof installation
at Haramain Railway Station


4 June 2014

Premier Composite Technologies

The Haramain High Speed Railway project links the holy cities of Makkah and Madinah via Jeddah and King Abdullah Economic City. The work was planned in phases and includes the construction of four passenger stations. The project is driven by the Saudi Railway Organization involving a 450km rail link between Mecca and Madinah.

All stations have a common planning strategy but each has its own distinctive design and building envelope to represent the cities that they serve.

PCT was awarded the contract to build the Concourse Roof at the Madinah station in February 2012. The scope of work for PCT included all elements of design engineering, manufacturing, delivery and installation of the advanced composite cladding for the concourse roof at the Haramain railway station at Madinah.

With a built up area of 172,000sq.m, the Madinah station contains facilities and services for passengers designed in accordance with the best international standards of high speed train stations. The station's facilities include a main building of the station which houses the arrival and departure concourses, a mosque with a capacity of 600 worshipers, a center for civil defense, helipad, (6) pavements for trains, car parking with a capacity of 1,000 parking spaces which are divided into short and long-term parking and VIP lounges. The station has also been linked with the Public Transportation System through the provision of appropriate parking area for buses, and linking the station via pedestrian pathway with the Light Train Station which is planned to be implemented on King Abdul-Aziz Road.

Designed in a JV between Foster+Partner and Buro Happold, the Madinah Station is built in a unique design of umbrellas with green tiling giving it a remarkable and eye-catching appearance. The concourse roof design consists of a highly repetitive pattern that is made up of 41 panels that fit together to make one large square module 27 x 27 meter. Each panel is required to be structurally lightweight, fire resistant, immune to extreme temperatures and weather conditions, and easy to install.

Working alongside Foster + Partners and Buro Happold, PCT developed an advanced composite solution that would meet all requirements.

The roof is structurally built using a fire resistant composite of glass fibre and epoxy resin combined with lightweight foam core and is finished with glass mosaic coloured tiles. PCT produced 1,312 of these panels to complete the 26,400m2 surface area of the Madinah station roof.

The structure has been designed to use as much natural light as possible. For this purpose the roof panels have unique diamond shaped skylights incorporated into the design. The composite roof has a suspended inner ceiling made of green anodized aluminium segments with a special embossed perforated pattern and fixed anti-glare lamellas to help achieve high reflectivity (a minimum of 95%). The glass skylights are dropped into the moulded recess after the roof is assembled and are equipped with anti-glare system to enhance the light distribution inside the station.

Installation started in October 2013. PCT is the first contractor to successfully complete the installation of all roof panels at the Haramain Rail Madinah station.

A modular approach to the design with a high degree of prefabrication meant that all FRP parts were produced at the PCT facilities in Dubai Investment Park. Installation and final sealing operations were done on site.

On the ground, four panels were pre-assembled to form a segment of approx. 100sq.m weighing almost four tonnes. Adjustable footing in three directions allows for easy on-site installation and fixation to the main steel structure. With no secondary structure in place, the largest span is 13.5m.

Each module is able to move independently with movement joints sealing the gaps between the modules. The movement joints are covered using FRP SS clad capping which also serves as maintenance walkways.

The entire operation has been carried out at expedient levels whilst maintaining focus and due consideration to health and safety procedures.

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