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Old March 1st, 2014, 12:55 AM   #181
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i personally like the roof height definition from this website, it is making comparing buildings more fair, without really overcomplicating things:
http://buildingheights.org/?t=offici...hts-definition
i certainly do not see a difference between ping an and century plaza's spire though. in the end the only important thing is we have a place of a compilation of newest pictures of our tallest in a good sorted manner like this thread, no matter what definition it tracks.
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Old March 1st, 2014, 01:09 AM   #182
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omg one more "official rules of the building heights" resource lol...

why do everybody everytime trying to put me all these ctbuh etc........... i have nothing against all these rules, i had idea to create thread by roof height, nothing prevents to someone create thread by spire height.....
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Old March 1st, 2014, 01:20 AM   #183
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Jewish I thank you for what you are doing.

Buildings like One WTC can seem like like "cheating for hight".

But with modern skyscraper architechture it's kind of difficult to define a roof.

Why don't you measure by occupied hight?

Does it not make just as much sense measuring where people stand if they are at the highest floor (not counting window cleaners and maintanence)

For me that would be easier to relate to... How high above the ground will I be if I take the lift to the top floor....

If you think of a traditional building the top of the building the roof is just above the top floor.


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Old March 1st, 2014, 01:31 AM   #184
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Old March 1st, 2014, 01:39 AM   #185
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Jewish I thank you for what you are doing.

Buildings like One WTC can seem like like "cheating for hight".

But with modern skyscraper architechture it's kind of difficult to define a roof.

Why don't you measure by occupied hight?

Does it not make just as much sense measuring where people stand if they are at the highest floor (not counting window cleaners and maintanence)

For me that would be easier to relate to... How high above the ground will I be if I take the lift to the top floor....

If you think of a traditional building the top of the building the roof is just above the top floor.


Hi KøbenhavnK, and thanks for standing with me.

Good idea, never thinking about it, but this is completely different idea from mine. My idea was to create list of 400m+ roof height towers, no difference what is inside the building and where is last occupied floor, important it was vertically standing piece of glass and steel minimum 400 meters.

But what do you suggest even harder than just figure out roof height, just for example, look at this complited 400m+ tower from China, can you tell me where is the last occupied floor?

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Old March 1st, 2014, 01:53 AM   #186
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Oh, now i got, what do you KøbenhavnK want to say.

You suggest to create list not by meters, but by floor number. Nice idea, i'd say.

154 fl
138 fl
123 fl
114 fl
108 fl
101 fl
98 fl
92 fl

etc.

Just create a new thread, 100+ floors towers for example.
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Old March 1st, 2014, 01:58 AM   #187
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That would as far as I know be the observation deck above the hole.

That still gives you an idea of the "real" hight.

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I remember that you're Ukranian. How did you find "ø" on your keyboard that fast - YOU NEARD
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Old March 1st, 2014, 02:00 AM   #188
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not floors- meters thet you are above ground...
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Old March 1st, 2014, 02:03 AM   #189
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That would as far as I know be the observation deck above the hole.

That still gives you an idea of the "real" hight.
Real height is outside perimeter height who knows where can be last occupied floor in the building, it doesnt say real height of building.

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yes, i am ukrainian. lol i just copypasted your nickname
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Old March 1st, 2014, 02:05 AM   #190
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not floors- meters thet you are above ground...
ohh my brain is sleeping and can't thinking at the moment.. going sleep for a while, it is 2 am in israel now....
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Old March 1st, 2014, 02:15 AM   #191
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I think the hight where you can stand rules..but if you want to deaviate from the CTBUH standards in other ways thats your choise. It's your thread and your rules..... I will go along. Thanks Jewish
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Old March 1st, 2014, 03:01 AM   #192
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Oh, now i got, what do you KøbenhavnK want to say.

You suggest to create list not by meters, but by floor number. Nice idea, i'd say.

154 fl
138 fl
123 fl
114 fl
108 fl
101 fl
98 fl
92 fl

etc.

Just create a new thread, 100+ floors towers for example.
The height of one floor can differ drastically from tower to tower, so 90 floors can be higher than 100 floors.
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Old March 1st, 2014, 11:47 AM   #193
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I think the hight where you can stand rules..but if you want to deaviate from the CTBUH standards in other ways thats your choise. It's your thread and your rules..... I will go along. Thanks Jewish
i dont care ctbuh and other thousands resources with their own "official rules", i have nothing against spire height, or something like this (according to their rules), i just decided to create 400m+ list according to the roof height.

again, nothing prevents to some of you (members of this forum) to create new thread with ctbuh rules ect. i really don't care.


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The height of one floor can differ drastically from tower to tower, so 90 floors can be higher than 100 floors.
yes, and this thing makes this idea bad.
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Old March 2nd, 2014, 05:35 AM   #194
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Hi Jewish.

You can measure the highest point where you can place your feet(in meters).... on a normal floor.

What is or is not the roof of many buildings can be even more debatable than weather antanna-like spires are part of the roof or not.

You have a great idea to go against "false hights".

The way forward is not to create a concept that cannot be measured.

Even with build structures as the one in Mecca there is debate if people can check their e-mail and take a nap in the cresent. Neither you or I will ever know....

I respect your wish for looking at roof heights. But IT CAN NOT BE DONE.

But I wish it could...

All best wishes for Ukraine from Copenhagen. I really hope things will turn out well....

Some things are more important than skyscrapers......
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Old March 2nd, 2014, 01:58 PM   #195
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ok bro.. in the next life.

now i wanna maintain the existing thread.
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Old March 4th, 2014, 06:33 PM   #196
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Old March 4th, 2014, 07:22 PM   #197
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Looks great and doesn't even have crown yet
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Old March 4th, 2014, 07:40 PM   #198
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Look closely - ST has spire!
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Hi jewish, I think this one is able to join your thread now.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=455805



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Old March 5th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #200
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Ok, thanks, i see now that main tower is u/c (not podium, thats why i waited, just wasn't sure about the main tower), so ill add it now, give me some time.
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