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Old December 3rd, 2013, 10:55 AM   #1
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#Proposed | PARRAMATTA | Riverside Tower | 41st / 152m / residential

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Old December 3rd, 2013, 10:57 AM   #2
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Excellent. Goodbye carpark! (A new underground public carpark will be a component of the new building I believe). I hope it has new restaurants and things to do along the riverside podium too!
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 11:15 AM   #3
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It's great to see that the council doing it's best to rejuvenate these slumish areas.

And while it's not much of a river, at least it's not turning it's back on it anymore and sees it as an asset.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 11:18 AM   #4
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As part of its activation of the Parramatta river foreshore along the edge of the City Centre, Council has entered into a Development Agreement with a private developer to redevelop the Lennox Bridge car park site into a mixed use development.

The development will include a three level podium which will house a new Discovery Centre (to replace Council’s existing visitor and heritage centre),
a privately owned 1,200 seat conference facility, retail, restaurants, and a high rise tower with
approximately 350 premium residential apartments and 150 basement public car park spaces.

The development application will be lodged in late 2013 with construction expected to start in 2014.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 12:25 PM   #5
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Bring it on!@, what happened to the rest of the of para cbd riverside development? or was that only ever a vision? its so badly needed
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 01:14 PM   #6
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Parra is booming with buildings at the moment how many 100m+ towers have we seen proposed this year at least 5 well done parra
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 04:08 PM   #7
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Parra is booming with buildings at the moment how many 100m+ towers have we seen proposed this year at least 5 well done parra
I remember years ago they were trying to get Chatswood developed like that but honestly, it's too hard to get DA's approved.

Parramatta council is pro development.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 09:23 PM   #8
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They want to have a CBD like Sydney which is the way it should be.

500ft is a perfect height for the riverfront and complements the proposed Meriton Towers on the opposite side of Church Street.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 10:37 PM   #9
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Woo! More tallies down my end!
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Old December 4th, 2013, 05:14 AM   #10
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Parramatta is probably the most ideal second CBD within the metro area, and the best for large scale development.
It sits in the dead centre of Greater Sydney and is well served by public transport, it has large(ish) blocks in a well constructed grid pattern over a relatively large area, it is flat and adjacent to a river, and it has an archive of historic buildings to give it soul.
I think we are yet to see much more in the wings for this centre.
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They want to have a CBD like Sydney which is the way it should be.
Nah, the CBD deserves to the business and finance centre. Between the CBD, Macquarie Park and North Sydney there isn't much opportunity for Parramatta.
Parramatta's future is as a fantastic high density residential and shopping area. A big Chatswood if you will.
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Nah, the CBD deserves to the business and finance centre. Between the CBD, Macquarie Park and North Sydney there isn't much opportunity for Parramatta.
Parramatta's future is as a fantastic high density residential and shopping area. A big Chatswood if you will.
Despite the fact that Parramatta is closer than the CBD for a large proportion of Sydney's population.
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Nah, the CBD deserves to the business and finance centre. Between the CBD, Macquarie Park and North Sydney there isn't much opportunity for Parramatta.
Parramatta's future is as a fantastic high density residential and shopping area. A big Chatswood if you will.
Ah you see, that's where you're wrong, that's exactly why CBD, Mac Park and North Sydney have everything to lose, especially Mac Park.

That's why any gain Parramatta makes will be at the expense of, yep that's right, CBD, Mac Park and North Sydney.

Nothing to lose everything to gain.

Parra is already established as the home of some great national sporting teams, fine restaurants, entertainment and cultures and one of the biggest Westfield in the world.

Oh and it will have the tallest building in Australia soon.

None of which Mac Park can boast, you should check it out some time.
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Nah, the CBD deserves to the business and finance centre. Between the CBD, Macquarie Park and North Sydney there isn't much opportunity for Parramatta.
Parramatta's future is as a fantastic high density residential and shopping area. A big Chatswood if you will.

If Sydney is to grow population it will need to develop other CBDs. North Sydney is just extension of current CBD and suffers from same problems as Sydney CBD. Macquarie Park is not a center, it is large suburban office park and uni campus.

Parramatta is certainly the only real option. With new airport that end and hopefully eventually hi-speed rail along east coast future is even brighter.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 10:41 PM   #15
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Despite the fact that Parramatta is closer than the CBD for a large proportion of Sydney's population.
There are a couple of reasons why this doesn't matter.
In terms of transport. It's easier for most people to get to the CBD than it is to get to Parramatta. With a commute time of 40 minutes by train from a place like Blacktown, the CBD is very accessible to even western Sydney. Hell it takes about the same amount of time to get to the CBD from Manly.
Another factor is the CBD is closer to the highly skilled office workforce, and this is why areas like Macquarie Park are doing so well. With easy accessibility to the highly educated and skilled workforce in the North Shore.
And the prestige factor. There is always going to be more prestige attached to a world class CBD like Sydney.
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So there is no height limit in parra??
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well it WAS 200m a few years ago, but Civic place seems to be excempt from this.?
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There are a couple of reasons why this doesn't matter.
In terms of transport. It's easier for most people to get to the CBD than it is to get to Parramatta. With a commute time of 40 minutes by train from a place like Blacktown, the CBD is very accessible to even western Sydney. Hell it takes about the same amount of time to get to the CBD from Manly.
Another factor is the CBD is closer to the highly skilled office workforce, and this is why areas like Macquarie Park are doing so well. With easy accessibility to the highly educated and skilled workforce in the North Shore.
And the prestige factor. There is always going to be more prestige attached to a world class CBD like Sydney.
Parramatta is 30min train ride from much larger workforce pool than Sydney CBD. And whole new generation of "highly skilled office workforce" would appreciate opportunity to spend their residential $$$ in more affordable western suburbs. Developing Parramatta into proper CBD would go long way towards resolving some of Sydney's chronic problems that are preventing it to successfully compete on world scale - expensive accommodation, boring and limited after hours and nightlife, expensive and unreliable transport (both public and private) ...
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Old December 6th, 2013, 10:45 AM   #19
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There are a couple of reasons why this doesn't matter.
In terms of transport. It's easier for most people to get to the CBD than it is to get to Parramatta. With a commute time of 40 minutes by train from a place like Blacktown, the CBD is very accessible to even western Sydney. Hell it takes about the same amount of time to get to the CBD from Manly.
Another factor is the CBD is closer to the highly skilled office workforce, and this is why areas like Macquarie Park are doing so well. With easy accessibility to the highly educated and skilled workforce in the North Shore.
And the prestige factor. There is always going to be more prestige attached to a world class CBD like Sydney.
There's quite a few reasons why Mac Park doesn't matter.

Firstly no body cares, doesn't even have it's own thread in this forum.
Doesn't even have a restaurant strip like Parra and other great suburbs of Sydney.
It has to be one of the most boring places in Sydney, no wonder everyone wants to get the **** out of there the moment work finishes.
Nothing to do but work.

At the end of the day, Parramatta is generating lots of interest, just look at all the proposals going on at the moment, fast forward 10 years Parramatta well be a very different place.

Oh, Michael Jackson performed at Parramatta Stadium in 1987, Mac Park can't attract global acts like that.
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Old December 7th, 2013, 05:54 AM   #20
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Macquarie Park is covered in the Ryde Thread and I actually try to source relevant updates and media clips for its forum. I do have an interest in whats happening there.

As for public transport, Parramatta is easier to get to in my own view. It is much better served by rail. We forget too there is the Cumberland Line which links Liverpool and Campbelltown with Parramatta.

Bus services encompass a broader range of suburbs than Macquarie Park.

Alot of people that work at Macquarie Park travel from the north west and western suburbs to work there.
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