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Old April 23rd, 2015, 11:09 PM   #221
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There have been some horrendous examples of the demolition of grand and beautiful old buildings in this thread, and I'm not a fan of their modernist replacements at all, but I have been moved to comment on the destruction of the Entertainment X'enter building in Jakarta. I've never seen or heard of it before, but even though it was only built in 2004 and had a short life of only 10 years, I think it's a real shame that it no longer exists. To me, it's delightful: I love those tilted-back heads with their smiley faces holding big wide grins. Their angles relative to each other suggests that they've just shared a hilarous joke and are now both guffawing freely. They remind me of giant '80's arcade game sprites. From the outside, at least, it was such a fun building. And it was all acheived with such amazing economy of form. I would love if something very similar were to be built near me: walking past those perpetually happy and cheerfully laughing faces would bring some sunshine into my day.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 09:02 AM   #222
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One of the most lamented demolitions in Argentina: the Argentine Pavilion.

This pavilion was designed by French architect Albert Ballu and built in Paris for the Exposition Universelle of 1889. When the exposition closed, the building was dismantled (thanks to being made entirely of iron) and transported by ship to Argentina, in 1890.
The building was rebuilt in Buenos Aires by Dutch engineer Juan (Jan) Waldorp in 1893.
In 1910 was the Fine Arts Pavilion at the Exposición Internacional del Centenario. Then it became the permanent home of National Museum of Fine Arts.
But in 1931, the Mayor of Buenos Aires José Guerricó promoted a project to expand the San Martin Square, where the pavilion was.
So the building was dismantled again between 1933 and 1934, then stored and finally sold for scrap. Almost all parts were lost forever.

Here are the pictures:

The location in Paris:

SOURCE

A photo:

SOURCE


Now the building itself, already located in Buenos Aires:

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2.


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And the comparison (The red arrow points to Marrriot Plaza Hotel as a reference):

Before:


Now:

SOURCE
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Old April 27th, 2015, 09:32 AM   #223
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Old April 27th, 2015, 04:56 PM   #224
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One of the most lamented demolitions in Argentina: the Argentine Pavilion.

This pavilion was designed by French architect Albert Ballu and built in Paris for the Exposition Universelle of 1889. When the exposition closed, the building was dismantled (thanks to being made entirely of iron) and transported by ship to Argentina, in 1890.
The building was rebuilt in Buenos Aires by Dutch engineer Juan (Jan) Waldorp in 1893.
In 1910 was the Fine Arts Pavilion at the Exposición Internacional del Centenario. Then it became the permanent home of National Museum of Fine Arts.
But in 1931, the Mayor of Buenos Aires José Guerricó promoted a project to expand the San Martin Square, where the pavilion was.
So the building was dismantled again between 1933 and 1934, then stored and finally sold for scrap. Almost all parts were lost forever.

Here are the pictures:

The location in Paris:

SOURCE

A photo:

SOURCE


Now the building itself, already located in Buenos Aires:

1.


2.


3.



And the comparison (The red arrow points to Marrriot Plaza Hotel as a reference):

Before:


Now:

SOURCE

Was that building built with Argentinian money for the spectacle in Paris or a gift from France?
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Old April 27th, 2015, 05:34 PM   #225
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All done with Argentinean money. The idea of ​​the government was to show our potential to the world, to attract investment and immigrants from Europe.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 05:55 PM   #226
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Rosario, Santa Fe, Argentina

Nicanor De Elía's house. Built in 1920. Demolished in 1967. Architect: Charles Evans Medhurt.


Rosario - Oroño y Mendoza by Daniel Colovini, on Flickr


Rosario - Oroño y Mendoza by Daniel Colovini, on Flickr

Today, Kennedy Building:


Romántica del Boulevard by Daniel Colovini, on Flickr
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Old May 4th, 2015, 12:24 AM   #227
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Yes it is, it is unique to Brazil - was there before the portuguese arrived and is still there today. Thus truly Brazilian.

European neo classical architecture in Rio is not Brazilian architecture. Whether Pedro II felt Brazilian or not. That is the point.

If I build the Parthenon on Mars, it is not Martian architecture, it is Greek classical architecture on Mars.
the point is that, brazil IS partly a european (or western) country
almost half the people are european, the language is european , the system of government, education etc, the religion was brought by europeans

the NAME of brazil is european

by this logic then all white and african people must be deported back to their native lands
but then, what will be left of brazil?

brazil's existence as a country is for the most part because of europeans

yes, this is european architecture we see in brazil
but brazil itself is an extension of europe into the new world
so , it is not foreign to brazil

it is foreign to the natives of brazil, and perhaps, the geographical location of brazil but not for many of the people , or in general, the concept of a country called "brazil"



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this thread as a whole however, as fascinating as it is , is depressing. its depressing to see that there are so many people that cannot appreciate beauty ,and that we have to make one mistake a million times only to.... repeat it again


here are some from iran

"Bimarestan-e Dadgostari" , the judicial hospital in the city of mashhad
destroyed
photo from 1976



the old quarters of the city of "gorgan", almost all destroyed now, this is an aerial photo, and telling from the shape of the buildings, it is obvious what type of beautiful facades they had



tehran
current day republic street, it looks nothing like this



the old shrine of the 8th emam (saint like figure) of shiite islam
photo from the 70s



the shrine is still there, but all the old areas around it have been destroyed
today it looks like an industrial park from the soviet era

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Old May 4th, 2015, 12:41 AM   #228
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a look at tehran from above , the traditional areas around the palace with all their gardens, all destroyed


military school




kamraniyeh residence, a perfect example of mid-late 18th century qajari persian architecture


the qajar castle in darband (north of tehran) destroyed by the pahlavis i believe


the qajars themselves were terrible as they destroyed so many of iran's safavid structures especially in esfahan , but at least they replaced them with worthy buildings
here are some of their idiocies
kakhe chahar bagh from esfahan


all the photos in my two posts were from here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...901098&page=14
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Old May 4th, 2015, 02:31 AM   #229
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Douglas Castle Scotland, built 13th Century, rebuilt 1800. Demolished 1938







Today:

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Old May 4th, 2015, 03:09 AM   #230
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This used to be Rio De Janeiro

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Already been posted and discussed on this thread at length. Easily one of the worst destructions anywhere.
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a look at tehran from above , the traditional areas around the palace with all their gardens, all destroyed


military school




kamraniyeh residence, a perfect example of mid-late 18th century qajari persian architecture


the qajar castle in darband (north of tehran) destroyed by the pahlavis i believe


the qajars themselves were terrible as they destroyed so many of iran's safavid structures especially in esfahan , but at least they replaced them with worthy buildings
here are some of their idiocies
kakhe chahar bagh from esfahan


all the photos in my two posts were from here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...901098&page=14
Why?
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Old May 5th, 2015, 07:57 PM   #233
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even the people who destroyed them dont know

as we say in persian "idiocy has no head or tail (meaning it has no start/end or reason)", it just happens

false drive for "modernity" yet destroying all the bridges of the past
this thread is really painful to the eyes

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more from tehran
north of the former " toopkhaneh square" (no emam square)
this was the municipality building of tehran
(kax-e shahrbani in persian)




http://festivalofarts.com/civilization/picture.php?/171


now (its those string of buildings in the background)
[IMG]http://st.*************.com/1401963/4423/i/450/*************_44230947-Traffic-on-Imam-Khomeini-square-.jpg[/IMG]

http://*************.com/44230947/st...ni-square.html
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the citadel of tabriz (iran), from the ilkhanid period
used as an educational complex since medieval times, and later a weapon storage space during the perso-russian wars and ottoman wards

it proudly withstood over 40 earthquakes and became a symbol of people's resistance against oppression and foreign domination, only to be destroyed by people within
"arg-e tabriz"

it was ruthlessly destroyed (partially) by islamist so they could build a mosque beside it after the 1979 revolution


http://www.iran-eng.com/showthread.p...AF%D9%8A%D9%85

beside the american consulate in the late qajar period

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arg-Tabriz-USA.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...901098&page=23


http://azargalam.ir/%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%...1%DB%8C%D8%B2/

today, only a portion of the tower remains
thats the ugly mosque beside it, and the park around it has been destroyed and no progress has happened for a few years


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So elegant!


Overall, I deeply regret all the buildings built for the World Fairs and destroyed after. (the Argentinian Pavillon above is a "great" example).
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Old May 9th, 2015, 02:32 AM   #237
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As I promised on my controversial Entertainment Centre of Plaza Indonesia demolition posts, here's the moronic demolition of classic buildings in Indonesia according to some.

Hotel des Indes/Hotel Duta Indonesia. This depicted version is built in 1890s 1920s-30s (circa) and demolished in 1971.





Today's replacement (from Wikimapia)


Why they said moronic: History and Art Deco hype. The replacement building (Duta Merlin) is indeed ugly. Blame Hotel Indonesia that drive Hotel Duta into bankruptcy and its eventual demolition.

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Singer building, Bandung. Built in 1930, and demolished in 1992. Designed by FW Brinkman.


(building with "Singer" lettering)

Today's replacement (from my photo archive)


Why they said moronic: Art deco hype. It is planned to be as auxiliary building for Bumiputera building, but developers, and mayor at the time, don't care.

Unfortunately, it's 1992 replacement is one of my favourite mid-rise.
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As I promised on my controversial Entertainment Centre of Plaza Indonesia demolition posts, here's the moronic demolition of classic buildings in Indonesia according to some.

Hotel des Indes/Hotel Duta Indonesia. This depicted version is built in 1890s (circa) and demolished in 1971.

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I didn't sure of that. I checked some source and no one mentioned that building's completion date. If I followed that source, 1829 - the year Hotel des Indes opened, I afraid it is not building I post here, that was the building of Hotel des Indes when it opened.
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Seems 1920s to me. Could be wrong.
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