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Old May 9th, 2015, 03:05 AM   #241
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Hm, possibly. Is I misinterpret that news reporting I post or something else, that building looks too modern for 1890s. Ok, I corrected that.
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Old May 9th, 2015, 05:59 AM   #242
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Seems 1920s to me. Could be wrong.
That is the front facade of the hotel, i think it was built around 1928-1930...

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I didn't sure of that. I checked some source and no one mentioned that building's completion date. If I followed that source, 1829 - the year Hotel des Indes opened, I afraid it is not building I post here, that was the building of Hotel des Indes when it opened.
Only the inner part of the hotel building is that old.

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Why they said moronic: Art deco hype. It is planned to be as auxiliary building for Bumiputera building, but developers, and mayor at the time, don't care.

Unfortunately, it's 1992 replacement is one of my favourite mid-rise.
Braga to Pasar Baru in Bandung, is an obvious cultural rape...
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Old June 8th, 2015, 02:02 PM   #243
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In France it's even worse. Some cities are now even demolishing old churches.

Here in Abbeville, a Medieval city in northern France that was almost entirely destroyed by the Germans in 1940, and now the local Socialist municipality is finishing the work left unfinished by the Luftwaffe.

The Saint-Jacques church until 2013:









And then came 2013...















Some helpless inhabitants left some flowers, but that didn't stop the machines.





















The site has now been turned into a parking lot:





It made the national headlines, but to no avail (title of the magazine is "Those who massacre France"):



In the same city, the 18th century chapel of the Medieval hospital is now marked for demolition by the Socialist municipality. Demolition should start in 2017.



Out of more than 40,000 churches in France, perhaps one-quarter of them could be in danger of demolition in this century (city coffers are empty, religious attendance is at its lowest since the end of the Roman Empire, many municipalities show disregard for Christianity, if not frank hostility in some cases). Note that since the 1905 law separating the Church from the State in France, it's the municipalities which are in charge of taking care of the church buildings, not the Church (don't ask me why!).
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Old June 8th, 2015, 06:56 PM   #244
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Richfield Tower - Downtown LA | *1929 | ✝1970

Any chance that LA's Richfield Tower (built 1929) gets reconstructed one day? Perhaps at a shifted location?

It was a main landmark of Los Angeles and would be again today, I think.
Such an Art Deco marvel, hopefully not lost forever! One of the most moronic demolitions ever, ever.


Richfield Building, Los Angeles, California by Boston Public Library, on Flickr

Great Noir style! A lighthouse, a landmark of the city.

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A number of the golden angels survived:

Read about it: http://shainla.typepad.com/sha_in_la/downtown/

Some more images at Wiki Commons.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 07:22 AM   #245
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Omg, that cathedral, WHY???

WTF is wrong with those people?
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Old June 9th, 2015, 08:26 AM   #246
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Omg, that cathedral, WHY???

WTF is wrong with those people?
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Here in Abbeville, a Medieval city in northern France that was almost entirely destroyed by the Germans in 1940, and now the local Socialist municipality is finishing the work left unfinished by the Luftwaffe.

In the same city, the 18th century chapel of the Medieval hospital is now marked for demolition by the Socialist municipality. Demolition should start in 2017.
Found your problem. Such people tend to have little regard for the past.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 02:12 PM   #247
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Old June 9th, 2015, 02:24 PM   #248
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That Abbeville cathedral demolition is beyond any human comprehension. It obviously was perfectly intact and demolished for mere ideological reasons. What the heck is going on with French heritage protection there? Islamist brute taking over the bureaus or what?

Socialists and fascists (well it's the same), to hell with you!
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Old June 9th, 2015, 08:28 PM   #249
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city coffers are empty, religious attendance is at its lowest since the end of the Roman Empire, many municipalities show disregard for Christianity, if not frank hostility in some cases
This is no excuse. I detest religion but I detest even more those who demolish buildings like these. They should have found a different use for it.
There are plenty of abandoned buildings that aren't ever demolished, so there's something more to it than low church attendance.
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This is no excuse. I detest religion but I detest even more those who demolish buildings like these. They should have found a different use for it.
There are plenty of abandoned buildings that aren't ever demolished, so there's something more to it than low church attendance.
I can't understand it either.
If they couldn't find an investor, they should simply have shored the building up, "put it into safety" with scaffoldings until someone could afford to pay for its renovation, maybe several years later.
I can't believe that France couldn't find a few hundred thousands euro to pay for a scaffolding!

That's what we do in Italy: sure, some buildings are slowly demolished by falling into decay through the years, but there's more chance that they can be recovered, at least partially.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 04:04 PM   #251
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Te destruction of the French church is mentioned as leftist in motivation in the post. I have to agree that is why it was demolished.

It is a shame they could not convert it to apartments like we do in the UK.
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Whatever the replacement for that church will be, I assume it'll be something inline with the anti-western society, guilt-ridden, defeatist, "hip" and multicultural idiology of Socialist Europe. For example:


Yuck.
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The most leftist thing they could build there would be a mosque or an African cultural centre.
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Just to put some more context into the case of the church, it should be known that it was practically falling apart by itself. The city couldn't afford to renovate it, and private investors who would buy something of its size in such a tiny place are extremely rare to come by. God knows how long it'd take too, if ever, that somebody'd even buy it. People could potentially have been hurt in there, so it's better to be safe than sorry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmik4dZvEkw

I don't think it's Abbeville that's truly at fault here either, but rather the French government and the unfortunately strictly enforced law of religion being entirely separated from the state. It's terrible how they can just silently watch as historical buildings in various towns around France rot to the point where they are falling apart and need to be removed. It doesn't even have to be about religion as mentioned, but rather about converting it to something else.
I digress.

It wasn't replaced by another building though, and it's not entirely a parking lot either.
Here's what it looks like today:
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Anglican Church, Le Havre, Normandy, France

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they can turn it to a library, museum, galley, a small hotel type building, restaurant, fruit market , kindergarten ANYTHING really

this is beyond my understanding, and for such a country like france
its no surprise this would happen in less developed countries but in france? this is very hard to grasp
how can you destroy such a delicate thing ? i would stop at the site of the masonry and small ornamentation
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Poor Xalkida, would be a UNESCO World Heritage Site now if they had respected the past..







Today:





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in Bucharest

Demolished to build nothing instead of:

Royal Palace Square





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Same group of buildings. North view:




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Another shocking and outrageous cases of destruction of historical heritage in France.

Another shocking and outrageous cases of destruction of historical heritage in France. And I naively thought that the barbaric mass demolitions of historic buildings in the 1960's and 1970's were a thing of the past, at least in Western countries like France. How wrong I was, what turns out to be only my wishful thinking. The destruction of national heritage is a crime against culture. And I don't think the government and municipalities (the prime culprits who are responsible for the "maintenance" of churches and historic buildings) in France, don't have a moral high ground vis-à-vis with the Taliban and Islamic State, when it comes to this. It is so awful.

"Église Saint-Joseph de Saint-Georges-des-Gardes" in Saint-Georges-des-Gardes, Pays de la Loire - Built: 1870 Demolished: 2006








After the demolition of the historic church, it was replaced with this - the new Church of Saint-Georges-des-Gardes built in 2009
(If this new building was built separately, instead as its replacement, I would have respected it, but since it is not, I do not)



"Château de la Trésorerie" in Hardinghen, Pas-de-Calais - Built: 1768 Demolished: 2006










"Hôtel Colomb de Daunant" in Nîmes - Built: 1886 Demolished: 2013





"Église Saint-Pierre-aux-Liens de Gesté" in Gesté, Pays de la Loire - Built: 1844 Demolished: 2013









"Viaduc de Souzain" in Saint-Brieuc - Plérin, Brittany - Built: 1904 Demolished: 1995





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