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Old January 5th, 2014, 09:50 PM   #41
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The replacement of the Birmingham Library is indeed a moronic demolition, considering the tacky gold and green mess that replaces it. A power-wash would have made all the difference to the building. The juxtaposition of the modern library with the gothic monument nearby will also be ruined.
It was always a dud because the original was supposed to be made of marble, not concrete. Still, I hate both buildings. Birmingham is a strange city.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 10:35 PM   #42
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HANOVER CITY; GERMANY


This building survived WWII as good as unhurt, but was demolished after the war. Not by the notoriously moronic DDR-authorities, but in west-Germany.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 04:22 PM   #43
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Old January 6th, 2014, 04:46 PM   #44
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Sagerska husen, Stockholm

Wikipedia

Sidenhuset, Stockholm

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Hotel Continental, Stockholm

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Wredeska palatset, Stockholm
Late 17th century palace.

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Folckerska huset, Stockholm
Middle 19th century

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Preissiska huset, Stockholm
Late 17th century.

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Kronprinsens stall, Stockholm
Late 18th century.

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Hotel Anglais, Stockholm

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Brunkebergs hotel, Stockholm
Middle 19th century.

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All demolished in the post-war period and most were replaced by non-descript modernist office buildings or hotels.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 02:57 PM   #45
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I hope all their trash to be demolished. Vain people who built their crap on top of other generations work. They're nothing but destructive sociopaths, turning beautiful cities into a wasteland.
Your comments on "modernism" are wrong on several levels. First, destructions didn't happen only during the time of the modernist movement. All throughout the modern era destruction has been happening on a regular basis, there's now at least one century and a half of systematic destruction.

Second, it is not necessarily architects who pursue the destruction of old buildings, they are those who design and build the replacements. It's the building owners who want a bigger, larger replacement, one that would better fit their growing needs; or it's the public authorities who need council housing or new public facilities. It's them who ultimately hold the decision making in their hands. The buildings they commission will be built by whoever is active in that time. For example in the second half of the 19th century you get Victorian architecture replacing the destructions in Britain (see here for examples: Lost London), or "Haussmannian" architecture filling up the destructions in France (Medieval Paris Before Baron Haussmann's Transformation); then in early to mid 20th century you get modernist architecture replacing older buildings, then you get the international style used for replacements, and even today there still are destructions happening and the replacements are done in contemporary architecture styles.

Thirdly, you can't dismiss the modernist movement as a whole because that's ignorant. In the movement there were many schools and approaches with lots of differences and nuances. Many of them were envisaging a rational architecture and planning, with a focus on beauty (beauty of simplicity, indeed, but still beauty), on human scale and harmony with the urban context and/or nature, and didn't envisage replacing the older stuff. Studying the Dutch school or Bauhaus would be useful in this sense. Also, a lot of the crap buildings that have been erected for the last century or so don't necessarily have something to do with architectural movements at all, because building a box without any particular features isn't something that needs an artistic background to happen, and its been done throughout history (since the insula of Roman antiquity).

Fourth, it is wrong to demonize people of the past for not having our own contemporary set of ideas which didn't exist in the past. The idea of preservation of architectural heritage only became mainstream recently, in the most advanced countries it is still only about half a century old. For example, it is only as recent as the '60s that the mayor of Lyon (not the architects, mind) wanted to erase the old medieval town (now an UNESCO World Heritage site) to build new stuff over it, and it was stopped from happening on the 12th hour by intervention from the central government. Along the centuries, the idea of preserving for the sake of preserving (like we do today) was just not common-spread and lots of buildings that we now cherish as treasures of the past were built over older buildings as it was the custom (to retain the placement and to re-use the materials). For example, many of Europe's cathedrals are like that, where there's a Baroque church you need to know that it was usually built on the structure of a Gothic church, who in its turn was usually built over a Romanesque church (and it continues like that in the hotbeds of old European civilization). Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean we have to accept the notion, we can still find the decisions to replace buildings wrong, and I certainly strongly disagree with the majority of such decisions, it's just that we shouldn't demonize people who weren't thinking in a mindset that didn't really exist yet.

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What a disgusting and ignorant comment. Without modernism cities and their infrastructure would still be stuck in the 19th century. Of course some people here would want that. Sure, ignore all the hospitals, schools and transport systems that make a city livable that modernism built and just focus on how they replaced some cumbling old buildings that happened to have some sculptures on them. And simply because you can't see the beauty of clean forms and lines of modenrism, modernists are suddenly monsters who want to ruin cities.
You go too far, though. Don't forget that there are old cities that have been preserved intact and their ability to function properly in the modern world was proven. Go visit Bruges, Amsterdam, Edinburgh, Strasbourg, etc. It's just that the new was built mostly to the outside, respectful of the old.
This thread is about unnecessary destructions, and there is absolutely every right to strongly criticize those. Myself I argue above only about where should the responsibility lie.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 03:06 PM   #46
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Stockholm also lost lots of nice buildings. Real shame!
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Old January 10th, 2014, 03:23 PM   #47
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Old January 11th, 2014, 04:41 AM   #48
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The replacement of the Birmingham Library is indeed a moronic demolition, considering the tacky gold and green mess that replaces it. A power-wash would have made all the difference to the building. The juxtaposition of the modern library with the gothic monument nearby will also be ruined.
Don't worry, I think they got rid of that one too

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Old January 11th, 2014, 04:47 PM   #49
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House of a former doctor, abandoned after a massive fire in the attic, Skopje. Demolished in 2013.



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Old January 11th, 2014, 04:49 PM   #50
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The University building in Skopje, damaged in the earthquake in 1963. It was demolished, although I think that the damage was not big and it could be preserved.

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Old January 11th, 2014, 04:53 PM   #51
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The Ottoman bank in Skopje, built in 19th century. I'm not certain when it was demolished, but I think it was somewhere in the 1930's.

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Old February 6th, 2014, 12:50 AM   #52
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The Sao Paulo and Rio demolitions are the worst I have seen. A true cultural rape.
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Old February 6th, 2014, 01:47 AM   #53
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I agree. Are there any initiatives (public or private) to rebuild some of these buildings?
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Old February 6th, 2014, 03:06 AM   #54
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this thread is torture
so sad to see so much destroyed

lots of this stuff happened in Iran under the name of "progress and modernity" but instead destroyed cities

destruction of a qajar period palace for a ministry office

http://thecityasaproject.org/2012/11...ct-for-tehran/

toopkhaneh square, one of Tehran's most iconic areas dating from the 1850s

how it looked by the 1890s

and 1920s

addition of the national post and telegraph building



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north side (city hall)


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southside

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northside
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Old February 6th, 2014, 04:09 AM   #55
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The destruction of the Georgi Dimitrov Mausoleum in Sofia, Bulgaria.
It wasn't that architecturally important, but it was an imposing monument to the past, and of the highest marble quality


What makes it particularly moronic is that it took them 4 tries to finally destroy it

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It always stood a good chance of survival. After all, it had been designed to withstand a nuclear attack.

At their first attempt, demolition experts packed the 1.5-metre thick walls of the building with some 600kg of explosives.
The first detonation rocked the capital, shattering the windows of surrounding government buildings and covering the central Batenberg Square in a thick cloud of smoke and dust.
As the dust settled, the iconic monument was still standing, albeit a little lop-sided.

The demolition team did not concede defeat and returned a few hours later for another go.
It failed in similar style. The government declared that a third detonation on Sunday evening would do the trick. Even more people turned up to watch the spectacle, this time with the promise of an extra 300kgs of explosives.
It was nother impressive failure, but the government was not prepared to take the blame.
Deputy Minister of Construction Teodor Dechev blamed the blunders on technical errors in the detonation.

Lessons had been learned from that wasted weekend though. Instead of going for the spectacular big blast, the government decided to gradually chip away at the obstinate marble giant.
On Monday the workmen returned with bulldozers and more explosives.
With a series of smaller detonations and mechanical demolition gear they finally razed the mausoleum to the ground.
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Old February 6th, 2014, 01:57 PM   #56
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Old February 13th, 2014, 11:06 PM   #57
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WOW, such a grate buildings!

thE WORSE thing [and sad also] is that people did it with their own stupidity! Not because of war or destruction but because of not thinking too much!
Nowadays is way better because we can appreciate the old buildings and do not just wash them from the surface. [ok it still happns but LESS than back in a day]
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Old February 15th, 2014, 05:47 PM   #58
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Look at my thing below on Lincoln Park Chicago. Lincoln park is a Victorian Neighborhood, which in recent years has been subject to countless demolitions.
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Old February 15th, 2014, 10:15 PM   #59
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Imperial Hotel, Tokyo
Designed by Frank Lloyd Wright
Survived the 1923 earthquake and World War II.
Demolished in 1967. A portion of it was moved and reconstructed at the museum Meji-mura.


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