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Old October 1st, 2014, 05:15 PM   #121
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Wow, that a bad one..
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 12:37 AM   #122
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I believe you don't really know Buenos Aires, if you go outside the downtown, the places that look very european are not so common as you think.

This is a typical middle class avenue in Buenos Aires
https://www.google.com.br/maps/@-34....02743!2e1!3e10

I'm argentinian and I think you're right. Buenos Aires is not an example of a planified city at all; in fact, it never was. It just grew without any plan, so there are large "european like" zones, and there are lots of places that doesn't. Moreover, some avenues look grotesque because the different kinds of buildings (in dimensions and styles). There are other cities that were better-planed (at the beggining, at least) like Mar del Plata, or La Plata (wich is a small city, but has this interesting design: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...de_el_aire.JPG)

By the way, in La Plata they demolished this in the 70's: http://www.plataformacultural.com.ar...-argentino.jpg

To build this... : http://laplataya.com/wp/wp-content/u...-Argentino.jpg
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 01:08 AM   #123
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About half of Downtown Minneapolis is my response to this... God damn Mall of America

Example: Metropolitan building


What's there now isn't awful, but this was such a beautiful building

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Old October 14th, 2014, 07:24 AM   #124
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Paul Rudolph's Riverview High School, Sarasota, FL, built in 1958.










Anyone who advocates the preservation of pre-war buildings but has no problem with post war/mid-century buildings being demolished is a hypocrite.

But it's a generation thing. If you grew up with these buildings when they were new, you have no appreciation for their beauty or historic value. Just like the 1920s generation that saw Victorian architecture as dated, kitschy monstrosities that bastardized the medieval styles they were copying.
Oscar Wilde once called this building "a castellated monstrosity with pepper-boxes stuck all over it."
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Old October 15th, 2014, 08:15 AM   #125
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If it makes you feel any better, I actually liked the original 20 Fenchurch Street and Limebank House better than the shit that stands on those sites today. Although that's more or less in the context of London itself, as I have a sort of romantic impression of pre-Tony Blair U. K. whereas the country was still a world superpower.
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Old October 19th, 2014, 03:22 AM   #126
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Phillis Wheatley Elementary, New Orleans (1954)

60 years ago it was rare to see such cantilevered architecture.



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Old October 19th, 2014, 07:29 AM   #127
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Ugly thing though...
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Old October 19th, 2014, 09:34 AM   #128
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Good thing that is only your opinion.

More historic modernist buildings lost:
Cyclorama, Gettysburg, 1962 - 2013







Prentice Womens' Hospital in Chicago, the first building to be designed completely using computers, held up by rare cantilevered arches, 1975 - 2014





Mummers Theatre, Oklahoma, 1970 - 2014





And there's plenty more on Death Row
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Old October 19th, 2014, 05:10 PM   #129
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Good thing that is only your opinion.
Actually good thing it isn't only my opinion, or that thing would still be standing..
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Old October 19th, 2014, 06:05 PM   #130
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You sound just like oscar wilde who called the Chicago Water Tower a monstrosity. Wake up and realize that there are iconic and beautiful buildings that aren't just covered in sculptures everywhere, and that they're being demolished. You're not a real preservationist if you have no problems with buildings like this being torn down.

You hate modernism yet you sound just like the modernists who tore down the 'hideous' victorian buildings left and right without a second thought.What will future generations think?


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Old October 19th, 2014, 06:20 PM   #131
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The Glass Bank, Cocoa Beach, Florida (1961, demolition started 2014)



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Old October 19th, 2014, 10:26 PM   #132
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Grand Tribunal/Supreme Court Building: Tokyo, Japan (demolished 1974)

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Old October 21st, 2014, 06:58 AM   #133
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If I didn't know how it looked before, I wouldn't have cared much. Why did they changed it at the top?
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Old October 21st, 2014, 09:36 AM   #134
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I guess hurricanes forced them to add the concrete extension.

But I don't mind the extension, as much as I like how it looked before. The fact is it's a unique building in the area that will be lost forever, including those beautiful columns
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Old November 1st, 2014, 04:08 AM   #135
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But it's a generation thing. If you grew up with these buildings when they were new, you have no appreciation for their beauty or historic value. Just like the 1920s generation that saw Victorian architecture as dated, kitschy monstrosities that bastardized the medieval styles they were copying.
Oscar Wilde once called this building "a castellated monstrosity with pepper-boxes stuck all over it."
Yeah, not surprising considering that in the 20s, people were drunk as can be.
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And they saw the generation before them as drunks. And the cycle repeats
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And they saw the generation before them as drunks. And the cycle repeats

not necessarily, I happen to find certain architecture from the more recent era attractive (I.E. some of the better PoMo), while I detest some of the Classics (I.E. colonial, anything 1800-1830, anything Spanish adobe, Etc. While I understand that you have this pe conceived notion, I beg to differ. For example, Art Deco certainly became classic not too long after it fell out of popularity, while modernism, on the other hand was even lamented as dull, even when it was still all the rage, same goes for brutalism. Now I am not going to say that all of these buildings are awful (I love any good Van-der Rhoe work, or brutal work, for that matter), but that age is not the main issue to deciding the quality of architecture, compared to let's say, the degree which it plays in fashion, or music.
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I think the New Orleans building might have got more sympathy had it still looked like it did in the original photos, rather than how it looked at the end.

The modifications ruined it.


One thing that does seem to be true is that people often don't miss old buildings until few examples are left.

I mean, even away from normal architecture, you now have loads of football fans saying they miss the old "inadequate" stadiums, saying that the new ones that replaced them are bland and lacking in character. Few were hailed as gems before they started getting knocked down, and while the newer grounds don't get called ugly, I doubt many would be missed if they were replaced.

Indeed, looking at the USA, where many 60s/70s 2nd generation stadiums are now being knocked down, people don't seem to get at all misty-eyed about their demise.


Maybe (and it's a bit of a stretch, I admit) this is the fate of the demolished modernist buildings.

The first wave of modernist buildings really won't be missed, but the ones that came after, with a conscious effort to avoid the mistakes that made those building so unpopular, will gain approval as a result.
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