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Old November 4th, 2014, 11:46 PM   #121
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please NBBJ, anything but an uninspired box! You're building plenty of those for cheap Amazon; downtown deserves better
Amazon was like "Quick, we need 2 million sq. ft. of bulk office asap!". I guarantee this one will be a slow roll.
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Old November 25th, 2014, 05:20 AM   #122
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Downsized. We don't know height at the moment.

Under the new preliminary design of a mixed-use skyscraper in downtown Seattle, people will be able to walk under the base of the 60-story building and look up to the sky through an atrium running most of the length of the building.
Real estate developer Urban Visions on Monday released the early design of the so-called 888 2nd project, which is proposed for the full block between Second and Third avenues and Columbia and Marion streets where a well-known steakhouse, the Metropolitan Grill, now operates.
Plans call for 1.2 million square feet of space with most dedicated to office. There will also be 30,000 square feet of street-level retail, including a new Metropolitan Grill, and 140,000 square feet of residential space – most likely condos – on the top 16 floors, Urban Visions CEO Greg Smith said.
Smith said it's yet-to-be determined whether he would start the project before pre-leasing any of the office space. First he has to get the city's OK to build the tower. He plans to take the project to a city board for what's known as early design guidance next month or early next year. No target construction start date has been set.
Under the preliminary plan, the building will be "lifted" up off the street, Smtih said, allowing people to walk under the building through a plaza. In the middle of the tower will be the approximately 65-foot-wide atrium that goes all the way to the top of the building. This will allow office workers to get natural light from the interior as well as the exterior of the tower. Urban Visions plans to market this and other design features to set itself apart from competing office projects.
It was nearly a year ago that Urban Visions announced plans for a 77-story project on the site. That would have been a floor taller than Seattle's tallest building, Columbia Center. Smith now said the 77-floor proposal was "kind of speculative." The new, shorter design will have larger, more efficient floor plates than competing high-rise projects, Smith said, adding 888 2nd still will have "great skyline presence" because other towers won't block its views. "We really see it as an iconic structure."
Not having the city's tallest skyrise is not what matters.
"What's important to us is designing a building that becomes a recruitment and retention tool for employers," Smith said. "That was the No. 1 priority."
He added that the floor plates are "incredibly efficient," meaning that tenants will be able to fit 10 or 15 percent more people into a space compared to a tower with a central core rather than an atrium.
With sight lines across each floor of office as well as up and down the atrium to other floors, workers will be more productive and creative, said Smith, who noted that studies have shown this greater chance of interacting with peers, along with more natural light, boosts employee moral.
At the street level is a pedestrian plaza.
"The cool thing about it is we are lifting the whole block," Smith said. He said 888 2nd will be the nexus point between the retail core and Pioneer Square.
The project will require the city signing off on "vacating" the alley currently on the block. This means that the city would sell the alley to Urban Visions and require the developer to provide a public benefit. Smith thinks the "incredible plaza area" will be " a great public benefit."
Urban Visions has been on a roll. Earlier this year, Weyerhaeuser announced it is moving its headquarters from Federal Way to a building in Pioneer Square that the company is developing, and last week Urban Visions announced plans for a large Seattle office and retail campus called Stadium East.
Seattle architect Ryan Mullenix of the firm NBBJ is designing 888 2nd, and Sellen Construction will be the general contractor, said Smith. Urban Visions and Martin Smith Inc. will market the project for lease.
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Old November 25th, 2014, 05:50 AM   #123
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That's not surprising, I never expected a new supertall to be a serious proposal in Seattle.
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Old November 25th, 2014, 01:10 PM   #124
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NBBJ, this thing is a profound disappointment.
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Old November 25th, 2014, 04:25 PM   #125
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Sigh, why am I not surprised?
Hopefully they still intend to build something tall, say at least 700-900ft.
They did say that they didn't intend to build a new tallest, so the thread should probably be moved to proposed skyscrapers.
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Old November 25th, 2014, 04:47 PM   #126
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Ewww, that new design is atrocious. A massive buzzkill. I guess Seattle won't be joining the supertall club for a while.
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Old November 25th, 2014, 05:37 PM   #127
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NBBJ, this thing is a profound disappointment.
its a shame! the gensler proposal is overwhelming!

well..is it too expensive to be built or what are the reasons not to build a beauty like this?!

...well, then bring it to new york at least :-D
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Old November 26th, 2014, 03:34 AM   #128
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NBBJ, this thing is a profound disappointment.
Is that what's being built ?
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Old November 26th, 2014, 06:08 AM   #129
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hahahahaha wow NBBJ just wow. Looks like a great place for amazon to lease some cheap space for their serfs.
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Old December 4th, 2014, 02:06 AM   #130
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That Gensler proposal is magnificent... Why'd they choose NBBJ?





almost perfect design and declined...
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I agree. Just spectacular and so much better than the proposal above.
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Old December 5th, 2014, 05:09 AM   #132
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The US sure does downgrade all the coolest proposals
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Markets hate bravura architecture. If every banker and bondholder was appeased, all our new buildings would be 10 story boxes in a cornfield.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 04:44 AM   #134
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What ever became of the supertall Alpert/Trump Emerald City Tower?
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Old January 13th, 2015, 04:46 AM   #135
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That other design is kinda weird but could turn into something cool potentially.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 05:29 AM   #136
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What ever became of the supertall Alpert/Trump Emerald City Tower?
You mean the Alpert tower where he hoped to sign up a partner like Trump?
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Old January 13th, 2015, 06:34 AM   #137
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Yes ... I haven't heard anything in several years.
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Shouldn't this thread be renamed 888 Second Ave.? Anyone know what the proposed height is now?
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Old March 8th, 2015, 08:52 AM   #139
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So is this still alive ?
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yes, but in all likelihood it is no longer a supertall.
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