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Old June 30th, 2015, 08:55 AM   #161
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 05:26 AM   #162
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PIA will end 747 ops from 31 July, after 39 years of service. In 16 years the last one AP-BFY wore five liveries.
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Old July 14th, 2015, 02:13 PM   #164
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I want to ask some questions about the current fleet of Pakistan International Airlines.

Firstly there is a suggestion on airliners.net that their airline might swap its order of 5 Boeing 777-300ERs with 5 Boeing 747-8s and perhaps lease some additional 777-300ERs as well.*

Do you think getting the 747-8 is a good idea for the airline?

Likewise how is the airline coping with the withdrawal of 7 A310s and the 5 747-300s without what it seems replacement aircraft?

Lastly should the airline order 787s to replace the A310s and fill in the gap between the 777s and A320s?
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I want to ask some questions about the current fleet of Pakistan International Airlines.

Firstly there is a suggestion on airliners.net that their airline might swap its order of 5 Boeing 777-300ERs with 5 Boeing 747-8s and perhaps lease some additional 777-300ERs as well.*

Do you think getting the 747-8 is a good idea for the airline?

Likewise how is the airline coping with the withdrawal of 7 A310s and the 5 747-300s without what it seems replacement aircraft?

Lastly should the airline order 787s to replace the A310s and fill in the gap between the 777s and A320s?
PIA should rather go for more 777-300ER to replace its older 747s rather than 747-8.I only see that the use of 747s for PIA comes useful mostly during Hajj periods. So 777-300ER can do the job of their older 747s. And yes PIA should purchase 787s to replace their ageing A310s.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 08:11 AM   #166
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Do you think getting the 747-8 is a good idea for the airline?
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Likewise how is the airline coping with the withdrawal of 7 A310s and the 5 747-300s without what it seems replacement aircraft?
A310's have not been withdrawn yet and 747-300's were rarely ever used so not that big of a difference. However 3 leased 777-300er will soon join PIA.

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Lastly should the airline order 787s to replace the A310s and fill in the gap between the 777s and A320s?
787, 777x and a350 are under consideration. They are planning on leasing a330-200/300 until they come to a final decision.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 01:10 PM   #167
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PIA should rather go for more 777-300ER to replace its older 747s rather than 747-8.I only see that the use of 747s for PIA comes useful mostly during Hajj periods. So 777-300ER can do the job of their older 747s. And yes PIA should purchase 787s to replace their ageing A310s.
I agree that the 777-300ER is a very good replacement for the 747-300 and has served the airline well. However considering that PIA is the only carrier serving London, NYC, Mancester and Toronto non-stop from Pakistan (and the only real competition is from Gulf Carriers and TK) there might be a case for ordering some 747-8s to meet levels of demand considering the prospects of getting additional slots at LHR or JFK is not that high.

Likewise I am surprised they have yet to order the 787, it has been around for many years on order and they must have known that the A310s are not going to last forever.

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A310's have not been withdrawn yet and 747-300's were rarely ever used so not that big of a difference.
I have read that half the 12 strong A310 fleet has now been withdrawn and in relation to 747 useage are you talking about the last few years?

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However 3 leased 777-300er will soon join PIA.
I have heard about this lease, I suppose this is what would be replacing the 747s, does this lease affect the order of 5 777-300ERs the airline placed some years back? If not then the airline will end up having 11 of these planes, which more than compensates the loss of the 747s.

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787, 777x and a350 are under consideration. They are planning on leasing a330-200/300 until they come to a final decision.
Would the A350 and 777X be more of replacements for the 777s though?

Considering that they are planning to lease A330s, have they considered the A330neo as well as the 787?
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 07:40 PM   #168
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PK plans on bringing 2 ex-Vietnam Airlines 777-200ers and 3 ex-Kenya Airways 777-300ers by the end of the year, bringing the total number of 777s to 14 in her fleet.
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PK plans on bringing 2 ex-Vietnam Airlines 777-200ers and 3 ex-Kenya Airways 777-300ers by the end of the year, bringing the total number of 777s to 14 in her fleet.
How old are these 5 aircraft? Less than 15 years?
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Old September 24th, 2015, 06:01 AM   #171
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How old are these 5 aircraft? Less than 15 years?
Kenyan 777-300ers are 4 years old and Vietnam 777-200ers are less than 15 years old. Additional 5 300ers will be delivered to PK in 2017 by Boeing.
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Old September 24th, 2015, 06:09 AM   #172
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Old September 24th, 2015, 11:03 PM   #173
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Pakistan International Airlines will add new flights and adjust one service to the Middle East thanks to its new A320s and ATR aircraft. Details below are from Airline Route:

Multan – Abu Dhabi: from 26 October 2015
PK293 MUX0930 – 1200AUH 320 1
PK294 AUH0425 – 0830MUX 320 1

Gwadar – Muscat – Abu Dhabi – Gwadar: from 27 October 2015
PK191 GWD0855 – 0910MCT0955 – 1130AUH ATR 2
PK192 AUH1215 – 1515GWD ATR 2

Above flight will replace current once-weekly Turbat - Muscat - Abu Dhabi - Turbat service. However, the triangular Turbat - Abu Dhabi - Muscat - Turbat service will still operate twice weekly.

Karachi – Kuwait: from 28 October 2015
PK215 KHI2210 – 2340KWI 320 3
PK216 KWI0040 – 0545KHI 320 4

Faisalabad – Jeddah: from 30 October 2015
PK739 LYP1710 – 2000JED 320 5
PK736 JED0900 – 1530LYP 320 5

Sialkot – Abu Dhabi: from 31 October 2015
PK293 SKT0810 – 1025AUH 320 6
PK294 AUH1145 – 1610SKT 320 6

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The next question I have is: can any of those flights be operated more than twice weekly to a point that those can be flown on a daily basis? Or is it something PIA wants to experiment first to see if more flights can be mounted over time?

And perhaps, how are the flight loads on the current flights to the Mideast operated by PK?
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The next question I have is: can any of those flights be operated more than twice weekly to a point that those can be flown on a daily basis? Or is it something PIA wants to experiment first to see if more flights can be mounted over time?

And perhaps, how are the flight loads on the current flights to the Mideast operated by PK?
PK took this step after foreign carriers started operating through airports like Multan, Sialkot, Gwadar etc and yes they will eventually increase the frequencies as more aircraft are added to their fleet (A few more a320's are arriving soon).
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PK took this step after foreign carriers started operating through airports like Multan, Sialkot, Gwadar etc and yes they will eventually increase the frequencies as more aircraft are added to their fleet (A few more a320's are arriving soon).
Ah that's good. It's interesting that international flights from Gwadar and Turbat get the ATR while the rest get the A320... are their runways not that wide or long enough to accommodate jet aircraft, or is the demand from either airport still low to have full-time A320 operations?
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Ah that's good. It's interesting that international flights from Gwadar and Turbat get the ATR while the rest get the A320... are their runways not that wide or long enough to accommodate jet aircraft, or is the demand from either airport still low to have full-time A320 operations?
Turbat has a small airport. Gwadar can handle multiple narrow body jets at the same time so it must be the load factors. A much bigger airport is U/C in Gwadar so we will see wide bodies soon as well.
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