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Old July 12th, 2007, 10:52 AM   #121
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Well let's hope the reclamation is going to be reasonable enough and the Green people are going to be reasonable as well... As far as I'm concerned, the Green people are only worried about not interrupting any natural environment but that could mean nothing can be built anywhere...
Besides, I guess we needed some of that land for a possible container port plus other infrastructure needed to strengthen HKIA's influence... let's face it... we get some, we lose some
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港珠澳橋擬建高架連接路
30/08/2007
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【 本 報 訊 】 粵 港 澳 三 地 政 府 仍 在 商 議 港 珠 澳 大 橋 的 興 建 事 宜 , 規 劃 署 聘 請 顧 問 所 做的 環 評 報 告 指 , 日 後 會 有 道 路 連 接 港 珠 澳 大 橋 及 北 大 嶼 山 公 路 , 為 避 免 北 大 嶼 山 居民 受 噪 音 問 題 困 擾 , 報 告 認 為 有 關 連 接 路 以 海 面 高 架 形 式 建 造 , 能 對 附 近 住 宅 構 成較 小 影 響 。 報 告 又 指 , 香 港 汽 車 會 建 議 在 小 蠔 灣 大 嶼 山 物 流 園 闢 設 賽 車 場 會 加 劇 空氣 污 染 問 題 。

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Old August 30th, 2007, 06:42 PM   #123
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Old August 31st, 2007, 04:51 AM   #124
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Planning Department of Hong Kong is considering the construction of the proposed connection between HK-Macao-Zhuhai Brigde and Northern Lantau Link to be built over water body off the shore to minimize the noise impact on Tung Chung residents according to suggestions found by the project's environmental impact study.

The study also briefly reviewed the noise and air pollution impact of a racing course proposed by the Hong Kong Automobile Club in the Logistic Park just next to Tung Chung. A more in depth is needed to further review the noise and air pollutions due to the racing course beside the HK-Macao-Zhuhai Bridge in order to proceed.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 07:46 PM   #126
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港珠澳橋港口岸提三選址
15/09/2007




【本報訊】港府最近完成了擾攘多年的港珠澳大橋香港口岸落腳點的研究,提出三個可行選址,新口岸整體面積約為九十至一百公頃,以容納各項口岸的整體面積及車輛緩衝區。離島區議員期望大橋可以盡快興建,期望創造就業機會之餘,亦可以促進大嶼山的旅遊發展,但大橋上馬仍然遙遙無期。

建人工島最遠離民居
港珠澳大橋將採三地三檢,港府早前委聘顧問工程公司,為香港口岸選址及布置進行研究。研究認為機場島以西地區,例如沙螺灣、 石灣一帶具考古價值,亦鄰近中華白海豚活躍地帶,選址需十分小心,建議在機場島西面的水域興建人工島作為新口岸,該方案既遠離大嶼山民居,亦遠離海豚活躍區,但由於要滿足航空高度,連接該方案的高架橋需大幅扭曲及延長,工程難度大增。

至於在機場航天城東面水域填海興建口岸的建議,該地點遠離東涌市鎮及生態敏感地區,噪音及廢氣不會影響居民,而且鄰近機場,可與機場互相配合,但由於需要重置機場沿岸設施,包括海天客運碼頭及海運碼頭,口岸建造時間較長。

顧問提出第三個方案,於大嶼山物流園選址西面填海興建港方口岸,配合擬建的物流園及小蠔灣交通樞紐,但該方案與大蠔灣排水口距離只有一百米,需進一步研究會否對大蠔灣水質及生態影響,而且該選址亦不便旅客往返機場。

離島區議會下周三召開特別會議討論港府提出三個方案,並會審議新界西北交通運輸基建檢討的最新進展。

東面水域少滋擾海豚
世界自然基金會香港分會高級環保主任梁士倫不希望在機場島西面興建新口岸,因為該區為中華白海豚活躍區,擔心工程會對海豚造成不良影響。

離島區議員容詠嫦支持在航天城東面水域興建新口岸,因為該區遠離海豚保育區,而且可連接日後興建的屯門西繞道,有助帶動區內的就業及旅遊發展。
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Old September 16th, 2007, 02:13 AM   #127
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This project has was proposed so long ago and its still being planned, it would be an awesome landmark if they decide to build it. Keep the updates coming
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Old September 16th, 2007, 04:45 AM   #128
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Yeah it is very ambitious plan, if this was realise within 5 years, it will be a remarkable feat to achieve. To minimize obstruction to the water but an more expensive option is to build a tunnel across to Zhuhai.

Other users in the forum has pointed out about the potential for more toll duties/ charges going from HK, Macao or Zhuhai. The other issue is that HK and Macao are driving on the left and Zhuhai drives on the right. There would have to be very many road interchanges to switch the traffic. It would be simpler to go to Macao and then have a diverting traffic to Zhuhai, then you can do one switch in traffic and reduce toll charges.
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Old September 17th, 2007, 06:44 PM   #129
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Proposals for landing point revealed
Hong Kong Standard
Monday, September 17, 2007

The government has suggested three landing points for the proposed Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau bridge, with two of them requiring reclamation work.

According to an Islands District Council paper obtained by Headline Daily - sister paper of The Standard - the Highways Department said a 100-hectare, entry-and-exit point is needed to accommodate sufficient immigration, inspection and transport facilities.

It proposed either building an artificial island to the west of the airport island; reclaiming the northeastern part of the island; or undertaking reclamation at the western part of a logistics park planned for north Lantau.

But, according to the paper, there are drawbacks to all three options.

For the artificial island option, the design of the bridge would be more complicated in order to facilitate the movement of aircraft and ships. Buildings around the site may also affect air currents, having adverse effects on aircraft take-offs and landings.

For the second option, it would lengthen construction time as all the facilities along the coast of the airport island may have to be moved.

For the third option, since there would only be 100 meters between the reclamation area and Tai Ho Wan, a place with high ecological value, assessment of the impact on water quality and ecology would be needed.

The paper said the latter two options would bring more economic benefits. As the site for the second option is close to the airport, this would facilitate passenger movement between the entry- and-exit point and the airport. For the third option, since the site is near the logistics park, cargo movement would be easier.

Islands District Council vice chairwoman Chau Chuen-heung said she preferred the first option as the route would be more direct if the site and the airport island are adequately linked.

The other two options would mean a detour round the airport island to travel from the entry-and-exit point to the airport, which is not time and cost effective, she said.

The proposals will be discussed at a meeting of the Islands District Council on Wednesday.
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Old September 23rd, 2007, 05:26 PM   #130
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Site to east of airport backed for bridge
20 September 2007
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A 100-hectare reclamation project on Lantau Island, northeast of the airport, is favoured by the government for the landing point of the proposed Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau bridge.

It is one of three options - unveiled for the first time yesterday - for boundary-crossing facilities at the Hong Kong end of the planned 35km bridge across the mouth of the Pearl River. The others include a site west of the airport and one close to Tai Ho Bay.

No date has been set for a start on the HK$30 billion project, with talks among the three involved governments, which started in 2003, bogged down over financing.

The shortlist of options for the Hong Kong landing point, selected after a five-month study, were presented to the Islands District Council yesterday.

The government said the northeast site was favoured because it was 2km away from Tung Chung town, meaning there would be no noise and air quality impact on residents.

It also would not affect the Lantau shoreline, airport channel, dolphin habitats, or the ecologically sensitive Tai Ho Bay, and was away from a geologically complex area of undersea cavities to the west.

The proposal received a mixed response from councillors.

Highways Department project manager Cheng Ting-ning said the close proximity between the checkpoint and the airport would enable the two developments to work together for "synergy and greater convenience to passengers". It could also integrate with the proposed Tuen Mun-Chek Lap Kok Link.

But the disadvantage was that it might require reprovisioning of facilities on the shoreline of the airport island, including SkyPier and the Marine Cargo Terminal so it would take longer to build than the other two options.

Several council members said a site to the west of the airport would enhance the entire development of Lantau Island.

But the government said three possible sites to the west, looked at during the study, would have affected aircraft landing and taking off, and an archaeological site at San Shek Wan.

It added that the site close to Tai Ho Bay was ecologically sensitive and passengers would need to take a longer route to and from the airport and the northwest New Territories.

A consultant appointed to study the issue said that as the three governments had decided on separate checkpoints and holding areas rather than one joint facility, a reclamation of 90 to 100 hectares was needed.

Tam Hon-choi, Highways Department chief engineer and also responsible for the bridge project, said the consultation process had started to gauge public opinion on the options.

Mr Tam said a detailed environmental impact assessment would be conducted after a consensus was reached about the site location.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:51 PM   #131
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The Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macao Bridge is a priority project. As a major strategic cross-boundary project, it is unprecedented in terms of scope, scale and complexity. The efforts made by the three governments involved are gradually bearing fruit. We have completed the engineering feasibility studies for over 20 project items. A remaining task is to finalise the financial arrangements. We aim to complete the financial arrangements in the near future and convene an expert group meeting to scrutinise the report. This will serve as the basis for discussion over specific investment and financing arrangements by the three governments at the next stage.
We have also made much effort on site investigation of the connecting roads in Hong Kong. Following the principle of "separate locations of boundary crossing facilities" agreed by the three parties, we have commenced the site selection study in Hong Kong and are collecting public views. I hope that we will have your support.
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Old October 28th, 2007, 07:26 AM   #132
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港珠澳大橋將建人工島
28/10/2007


【本報訊】 港珠澳大橋即將展開海中橋及隧道主體工程補充地質勘察,工程費用會由香港、珠海和澳門三地政府攤分,三地政府亦傾向大橋落成後採用三地三檢方式運作,由各地區直接管理自己區域的出入境口岸。

內地網易新聞中心消息稱,港珠澳大橋在三地的落腳點,分別位於香港大嶼山散石灣、澳門明珠及珠海拱北。內地發出的《港珠澳大橋海中橋隧道主體工程補充工程地質勘察資格預審公告》,顯示大橋主體跨海總長度約三十五公里,海底隧道長約六點七五公里,橋樑長度為二十九公里。

設三地三檢口岸
為配合車輛需要在橋樑與隧道之間轉換路線,工程會建設兩個分別長一千米、寬一百米的海中人工島。海中橋隧道主體工程和珠海連接線會按六車道高速公路標準興建,澳門口岸與大橋連接部分則採用四車道設計,至於香港與澳門連接的通道則尚待研究。

此外,港珠澳大橋會配備三個三地三檢的口岸,分別設於香港、澳門及珠海近岸的三個人工島。港珠澳大橋會在今年稍後時間分階段動工,二○一五年建成,車速限制為八十公里。當大橋通車後,三地居民通過大橋往返香港與澳門或珠海,車程不需三十分鐘。

本港運輸及房屋局局長鄭汝樺昨在電台節目稱,港珠澳大橋融資方案已進入最後階段,未來幾個月會與各方密切商討。至於以專用通道興建的廣深港高速鐵路,初步傾向以契約方式租予鐵路公司營運,特區政府正與內地探討在西九龍車站,實行一地兩檢的可行性。
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Old October 29th, 2007, 09:09 AM   #133
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北方的桥都是内陆桥 立交桥 没有南方沿海的好看啊
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Old January 14th, 2008, 05:10 PM   #135
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HK must mesh with mainland rail network or else, says business chief
14 January 2008
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Hong Kong lacks "sensitivity" in railway development and could be marginalised if it fails to catch up with the mainland's fast-growing transport networks, the head of the Greater Pearl River Delta Business Council and Airport Authority chairman Victor Fung Kwok-king says.

In an interview with the South China Morning Post, Dr Fung reiterated that the proposed cross-delta bridge must have a railway to further speed up passenger flows and logistics in the region.

He called for early completion of the proposed bridge connecting Hong Kong with Zhuhai and Macau.

"We are expecting a dramatic increase in cross-border traffic. If we build the Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau bridge, a rail link is a must," Dr Fung said.

"The rail system in the country is developing at an amazing speed and we should think about what its impact on our economic development will be. The country is pushing passenger flows between major cities on high-speed trains while using the remaining capacity for cargo. The rail system is now massive.

"In Hong Kong, we always talk about road links, air links and sea links. But we don't have adequate sensitivity in rail links. I never believed Hong Kong would be marginalised, but we could be if we are not careful in rail-link development."

Dr Fung, chairman of the Li and Fung Group, has headed the Greater Pearl River Delta Business Council since 2004. It advises the chief executive on co-operation between Hong Kong and Guangdong.

The cross-delta bridge project has been dragging on for years. The idea of building a railway with the bridge has been suggested but the government has never committed itself to including it.

After the 10th working meeting of the Hong Kong/Guangdong Co-operation Joint Conference in Guangzhou on Tuesday, the Hong Kong government said 20 studies had been completed under the feasibility study of the bridge project.

Both sides agreed to strive for early implementation of the project.

Dr Fung said another key project that could bring Hong Kong closer to the Pearl River Delta was the Regional Express Line connecting the city with Guangzhou. The link, expected to be completed by 2014, will shorten the journey between the two cities from two hours to 48 minutes.

Another proposed railway linking Hong Kong and Shenzhen airports would shuttle commuters between the two aviation centres in 18 minutes.

"You could check in at one point and get on a flight in another," Dr Fung said.

"We serve different markets. Hong Kong cannot provide daily flights to a second-tier city like Zhengzhou ; we don't have such a market. But the market for domestic flights in Shenzhen is very big. Shenzhen does not have many international flights, but we do. We can complement each other, totally."

Chief Secretary Henry Tang Ying-yen said last month that a rail link would be the best way to boost ties between the two cities' aviation sectors. Two joint taskforces will be set up soon - one to study inter-airport co-operation and the other to look at development of the Lok Ma Chau Loop.

Reviewing Pearl River Delta development since the handover, Dr Fung said he was glad to see an increasing awareness of a regional perspective among Hongkongers.

"Hong Kong has to view itself as being at the heart of a population of 40 million. If we don't have a vision of an economy of this size, we cannot {hellip} compete globally.

"Ten years after the handover, people's mindset about the Pearl River Delta has changed.

"When I first talked about the greater delta five or six years ago, some people did not know what I was talking about. But now no one questions this direction."
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Old January 22nd, 2008, 03:31 PM   #136
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Delta bridge link to get priority, says Guangdong planning chief
19 January 2008
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Guangdong's top planning official has announced that the provincial government will do its utmost to hasten the launch of the Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau Bridge.

The project, linking Hong Kong to the western part of the Pearl River Delta, has long been delayed.

Li Miaojuan , director general of Guangdong's Development and Reform Commission, said the bridge was a key infrastructure project for this year.

Ms Li said she would meet the secretary for transport and housing, Eva Cheng Yu-wah, soon to discuss details for speeding up the project.

"We will try our best to bring forward the starting date for bridge construction as the project is favourable for Hong Kong, Macau and Guangdong," she said.

Ms Li said several key research projects for the bridge would be conducted in June. The impact of the bridge on coastal ecosystems would be one issue examined.

The provincial government would also keep researching issues such as funding and location of the bridge control point.

Ms Li said the matter of deciding where investment would come from was still being discussed by the three governments involved.

Guangdong wanted private companies to invest in the project rather than government funding, she said. "But we are still waiting to reach an agreement."

The idea of a link between Hong Kong and the delta was floated two decades ago but the plan has been dogged by controversy surrounding the exact location of the bridge, its environmental impact, and which authority or authorities would have jurisdiction over it.

In 2003 a consensus was reached between Hong Kong and Guangdong to build a Y-shaped bridge linking the three points after the central government gave its support.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 12:52 AM   #137
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Old January 24th, 2008, 04:37 PM   #138
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There are a lot of questions over this link's viability. It's supposed to open up the western side of the delta, which until now has been relatively slow to develop compared to the eastern side, but that is also a reason why not to build a link to nowhere. It'll lose money.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 05:05 AM   #139
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This project seems like a lot of hot air, they've been saying the bridge is needed for eons and its still at the 'we don't know how to do it' stage.

However, should it actualize, it'll be the coolest bridge/tunnel connection ever!
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 05:18 PM   #140
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This project seems like a lot of hot air, they've been saying the bridge is needed for eons and its still at the 'we don't know how to do it' stage.

However, should it actualize, it'll be the coolest bridge/tunnel connection ever!
I think the biggest problem is the justification of such an enormous cost when the western part of the delta isn't so developed to warrant the traffic. However, Hong Kong's links with Macau should bring quite a lot of traffic on this bridge.
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