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Old August 26th, 2014, 11:20 AM   #141
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Old August 26th, 2014, 04:22 PM   #142
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I've visited. Tbh the metro ride is a bit of a drainer because the city is spread out so laterally.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 07:32 PM   #143
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Shenzhen has suddenly become everything what we have been expecting from China for years. It's not a vague long term process anymore, it's real already. And even what we see in those pictures is nothing compared to what is coming.
Cool to see all these projects materialize. Still many supertalls to come.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 07:55 PM   #144
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Right. All of a sudden competition with Shanghai doesn't seem so unreal anymore. If you look at things from a rational perspective Shenzhen is easily the best of the first tier cities in China. I'm not talking skyscrapers and cool sights but infrastructure in general, living quality, transport, proximity to Hong Kong (which is a HUGE advantage even if it is not part of the city itself). The current explosive boom of mega-constructions in Shenzhen is merely a result of the fundamental process that is taking place. I;m now so impatient to see Qianhai projects rising above the ground. If Qianhai suceeds Shenzhen will come to be a true global city.
I predict that by 2030 the completely integrated Pearl River Mega City with a population of 80+ million people, a gdp of 3+ trillion USD and 100+ supertalls will be the leading global city on the planet
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Old August 26th, 2014, 08:17 PM   #145
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Does Shenzhen have a port? Or is it landlocked?
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Old August 26th, 2014, 08:36 PM   #146
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It has

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Old August 27th, 2014, 04:44 AM   #147
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About the traffic in Shenzhen

I live in Shenzhen. I can tell that the traffic in Shenzhen is relatively better than Beijing or Shanghai. I think there are two reasons.

Firstly, ShenZhen is not a "round" city as Beijing or Shanghai. Shenzhen has 5 city centers and the majority of people tend to live close to where they work. Shenzhen is like the bay area in CA where small cities are placed in a chain.

Secondly, ShenZhen still has a MUCH smaller population than Beijing or Shanghai.

Both Beijing and Shanghai have much better metro system than Shenzhen. But you don't feel much crowded on most of the Shenzhen Metro lines. Especially on line 1, where you can still have seat at 8:00 in the morning.
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Old August 27th, 2014, 04:52 AM   #148
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Does Shenzhen have a port? Or is it landlocked?

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Old August 27th, 2014, 05:16 AM   #149
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I live in Shanghai. For reason #1, Shanghai also has multiple city centers. Most people live and work within their own vicinity.
For reason #2. Totally agree.

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I live in Shenzhen. I can tell that the traffic in Shenzhen is relatively better than Beijing or Shanghai. I think there are two reasons.

Firstly, ShenZhen is not a "round" city as Beijing or Shanghai. Shenzhen has 5 city centers and the majority of people tend to live close to where they work. Shenzhen is like the bay area in CA where small cities are placed in a chain.

Secondly, ShenZhen still has a MUCH smaller population than Beijing or Shanghai.

Both Beijing and Shanghai have much better metro system than Shenzhen. But you don't feel much crowded on most of the Shenzhen Metro lines. Especially on line 1, where you can still have seat at 8:00 in the morning.
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Old August 27th, 2014, 09:49 AM   #150
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Shenzhen is a large city and it is nice. I could live there. But it is overshadowed by Hong Kong and Guangzhou.
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Old August 27th, 2014, 10:42 AM   #151
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Shenzhen is a large city and it is nice. I could live there. But it is overshadowed by Hong Kong and Guangzhou.

In china Shenzhen isnt overshadowed by Guangzhou..there are both important cities..and outside China almost no one knows Guangzhou or Shenzhen
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Old August 27th, 2014, 12:51 PM   #152
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I disagree, many in the west with some brain knew Guangzhou with the european name of Canton, Shenzen was smaller in the past but now is bigger than most european cities.
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Old August 27th, 2014, 09:17 PM   #153
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Shenzhen now has a population of roughly 15million and is bigger than any European city
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Shenzhen now has a population of roughly 15million and is bigger than any European city
Both Moscow and Istanbul(if you want to consider it a european city) is roughly the same size as Shenzhen.
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Old August 27th, 2014, 10:39 PM   #155
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Both Moscow and Istanbul(if you want to consider it a european city) is roughly the same size as Shenzhen.
It's hard to tell. Shenzhen population is hard to estimate. Same applies to Moscow but I suppose not to the same extent. Shenzhen is probably bigger than either Moscow or Istanbul.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 01:03 AM   #156
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Not all of Istanbul's population is on the European side.
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Old September 7th, 2014, 01:22 PM   #157
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with Shenzhen (before: 3) and Nanjing (before: 2) both losing a 400m tower in their U/C lists, the lists of cities with most buildings 400m+ changed quite a bit. With the current prep status of other projects it does look most likely that Dubai will likely lose the title to New York in only a couple of years. Shenzhen keeping up will only happen, once Shenwan starts in full swing:


- worldwide 400m+ buildings U/C and Com by city -

4x400m+: Dubai
3x400m+: Shanghai, Tianjin, Wuhan, Kuala Lumpur, New York
2x400m+: Guangzhou, Guiyang, Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Suzhou, Chicago
1x400m+: Beijing, Changsha, Chongqing, Nanjing, Mumbai, Kuwait, St. Pertersburg, Jeddah, Mecca, Seoul, Taipei
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Old September 19th, 2014, 05:59 AM   #158
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I predict that by 2030 the completely integrated Pearl River Mega City with a population of 80+ million people, a gdp of 3+ trillion USD and 100+ supertalls will be the leading global city on the planet
Maybe it's little to early in 2030. Between 2040-2050 i'd say. And this new megapolis will also have alligators living in it's sewage. Alligators in New York sewage might be only legends, but there are real alligators in Pearl river....
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Old September 19th, 2014, 06:03 AM   #159
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Does Shenzhen have a port? Or is it landlocked?
It is on river. I supose there is a port as well....
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Old September 21st, 2014, 05:10 AM   #160
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Yeah around 2040-50 coz the tallest is 828m in Dubai so they would have to try really hard
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