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Old November 11th, 2015, 11:09 PM   #801
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PORTUGAL »» A26


Last official update according to a portuguese newspapper:


A26-1: Santo Andre – Sines (A26) 10.8km (September 2010 to To be concluded till Jan. 2016) – ? – map


A26: Santiago do Cacem-West – Roncao 15.8km (September 2010 to To be concluded till Jan. 2016) [2nd c/w] – ? – map

Unknown opening date:



A26: Roncao – Azinheira (IC1) 23km (September 2010 to Definetely Suspended) – ? – map


A26: Azinheira (IC1) – Santa Margarida do Sado 7km (September 2010 to To be concluded till Jan. 2016) – ? – map
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Could someone add these on first page for Turkey?

O??: Gebze (O1) – İzmir (O30)433km (2013 to Late 2016) – project >> Includes İzmit Bay Bridge

O??: Odayeri (O1) – Paşaköy (O3) (Northern Marmara Part 1)95km (2012 to Late 2016) – project >> Includes Third Bosphorus Bridge

O??: Kınalı – Odayeri (O1) (Northern Marmara Part 2)149km (2016 to Late 2017) – project

O??: Kurtköy – Akyazı (Northern Marmara Part 3)187km (2016 to Early 2018) – project

O??: Ankara (O20) – Niğde 330km (- to Early 2023) – project
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Old November 12th, 2015, 09:58 PM   #803
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Could someone add these on first page for Turkey?
Thank you very much . I'm happy that I finally got Turkish projects .

Does your list contain all u/c Turkish motorway/expressway projects or are there additional projects?

I will check your list later this year and I think I will add it (I'm a little bit busy at the moment, have to create a new thread et cetera; the future Iranian list is also still on hold).
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Could someone add these on first page for Turkey?

O??: Gebze (O1) – İzmir (O30)433km (2013 to Late 2016) – project >> Includes İzmit Bay Bridge

O??: Odayeri (O1) – Paşaköy (O3) (Northern Marmara Part 1)95km (2012 to Late 2016) – project >> Includes Third Bosphorus Bridge

O??: Kınalı – Odayeri (O1) (Northern Marmara Part 2)149km (2016 to Late 2017) – project

O??: Kurtköy – Akyazı (Northern Marmara Part 3)187km (2016 to Early 2018) – project

O??: Ankara (O20) – Niğde 330km (- to Early 2023) – project
Its nice that Turkey would'nt be missing in this Grand list anymore. Until now there were just rumors, and maps which were dissenting.

Project pages are a big step. Maybe you could support several times again. Making a list is just the first step, i needs to stay up-to-date also.
Please tell anything you know especially about smaller sections. I don't want to doubt it, but it would be outstanding to open an more than 400km motorway in one piece...
Lets see.
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Thank you very much . I'm happy that I finally got Turkish projects .

Does your list contain all u/c Turkish motorway/expressway projects or are there additional projects?

I will check your list later this year and I think I will add it (I'm a little bit busy at the moment, have to create a new thread et cetera; the future Iranian list is also still on hold).
Not all, there are also more planning Projects on Central Anatolia and Aegean regions but the details are not revealed as of yet. These are the "clear" ones.

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Its nice that Turkey would'nt be missing in this Grand list anymore. Until now there were just rumors, and maps which were dissenting.

Project pages are a big step. Maybe you could support several times again. Making a list is just the first step, i needs to stay up-to-date also.
Please tell anything you know especially about smaller sections. I don't want to doubt it, but it would be outstanding to open an more than 400km motorway in one piece...
Lets see.
Here is the official map by the General Directorate of Highways, you can also find English definitions of legends on right-bottom of the map. Focus on the West parts.

The smallest part of u/c projects is the first section of Norhern Marmara Motorway( 95 km ) which is quite big whether we compare any other ordinary projects in another country. Other ones will be opened in one time for each, not piece by piece.
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- Canada:
QC-A73: Notre-Dame-des-Pins – Saint-Georges-North 5.4km (July 2012 to Fall 2015 --> 11th November 2015) – ? – map (source)

- Croatia:
A11: Jakusevec (A3) – Veliko Polje --> Jakusevec (A3) – Velika Gorica 8.5km (April 2006 to 3rd November 2015) – ? – map (source)

- Czech Republic:
R6: Bosov – Lubenec 4.1km (May 2010 to 10th November 2015 --> 10th November 2015) – projectmap (source)

- Germany:
B49: Solms – AS Oberbiel-East 3.2km (May 2010 to 2016 --> Late 2017) --> [~300m/~1000m in service since 2014/15]projectmap (source)
B51: AS Münster-Warendorfer Straße (B481) – AS Münster-Wolbecker Straße 2.7km (June 2015 to Late 2018) – ? --> projectmap (source)
B85: AS Neubäu-West – AS Neubäu-East 4.0km (November 2015 to 2018 --> Mid 2019) [1st c/w] – projectmap (source)

- Italy: (source)
A1var: La Quercia – Aglio 37km (2004 to 2016 --> 15th December 2015) – projectmap
A1var: Aglio – Barberino 6km (2004 to 2016 --> 15th December 2015) [2nd c/w] – projectmap

- Norway:
Fv557: Liavatnet – Sandeide 4.2km (April 2011 to 12th November 2015 --> 12th November 2015) – projectmap (source; source)

- Pakistan:
M4: Khanewal – Multan 54km (August 2009 to >= 2015 --> Mid November 2015) – ? – map (source)

- Polen: (source; source)
S61: Szczuczyn-North – north of Szczuczyn-West 3.7km (August 2012 to December 2015 --> 13th November 2015) [1st c/w] – projectmap
S61: north of Szczuczyn-West – south of Szczuczyn-West 1.5km (August 2012 to December 2015 --> 13th November 2015) – projectmap
S61: south of Szczuczyn-West – Koniecki Male 2.9km (August 2012 to December 2015 --> 13th November 2015) [1st c/w] – projectmap

- Portugal: (source)
A26-1: Santo Andre – Sines (A26) 10.8km (September 2010 to 2016 --> January 2016) – ? – map
A26: Santiago do Cacem-West – Roncao 15.8km (September 2010 to 2016 --> January 2016) [2nd c/w] – ? – map
A26: Azinheira (IC1) – Santa Margarida do Sado 7km (September 2010 to suspended --> January 2016) – ? – map

- Slovakia:
R2: Pstrusa – Krivan 10.4km (November 2013 to 10th November 2015 --> 10th November 2015) – projectmap (source)

- Spain:
A8009: San Jose de la Rinconada-West – San Jose de la Rinconada-South 1.5km (? to > October 2015 --> Late November 2015) – projectmap (source)


Upcoming openings (November/December 2015):

Bosnia and Herzegovina ?: Butila (A1) – Brijesce 3.5km (October 2010 to 16th November 2015) – projectmap
Pakistan M4: Khanewal – Multan 54km (August 2009 to Mid November 2015) – ? – map
Slovakia D1: Levoca – Jablonov 9.5km (June 2012 to November 2015) – projectmap
Canada ON-401: Windsor-Ojibway – Windsor-Lamelle Street ~3km (August 2011 to Late November 2015) – projectmap
Spain A8009: San Jose de la Rinconada-West – San Jose de la Rinconada-South 1.5km (? to Late November 2015) – projectmap
Serbia A1: Vladicin han – Prevalac 10.1km (April 2012 to 30th November 2015) – projectmap
Serbia A1: Prevalac – Donji Neradovac 16.2km (April 2012 to 30th November 2015) – projectmap
Canada QC-A73: Notre-Dame-des-Pins – Saint-Georges-North 5.4km (July 2012 to Fall 2015) – ? – map
Serbia A1: Dobanovci – west of Ostruznica bridge 10.1km (May 2014 to Fall 2015) [2nd c/w] – projectmap
Austria S36: west of Sankt Georgen – east of Sankt Georgen ~1.5km (April 2013 to 1st December 2015) – projectmap
Italy A1var: La Quercia – Aglio 37km (2004 to 15th December 2015) – projectmap
Italy A1var: Aglio – Barberino 6km (2004 to 15th December 2015) [2nd c/w] – projectmap
The Netherlands A4: Delft – Schiedam-North 7km (April 2012 to 18th December 2015) – projectmap
Austria S10: Freistadt-South – Unterweitersbach 13.6km (Spring 2012 to 20th December 2015) – projectmap
Germany A14: AK Schwerin – AS Grabow 14.4km (November 2012 to 21st December 2015) – ? – map
Italy SS534: Spezzano Albanese-Terme – Sibari Marina 14km (November 2013 to 24th December 2015) [2nd c/w] – projectmap
Canada ON-407: Pickering-Brock Road – Oshawa-Harmony Road 22km (2013 to December 2015) – projectmap
Canada ON-407-WDL: Whitby (ON407) – Whitby (ON401) 10km (2013 to December 2015) – projectmap
France N79: Bresnay – Chemilly 6.3km (? to December 2015) [2nd c/w] – projectmap
Italy SS199: west of Olbia-South (SS131DCN) – Olbia-Airport 2.5km (June 2012 to December 2015) – projectmap
The Netherlands N381: Drachten (A7) – Wijnjewoude 5.0km (May 2014 to December 2015) – ? – map
Poland S61: Szczuczyn-North – north of Szczuczyn-West 3.7km (August 2012 to December 2015) [1st c/w] – projectmap
Poland S61: north of Szczuczyn-West – south of Szczuczyn-West 1.5km (August 2012 to December 2015) – projectmap
Poland S61: south of Szczuczyn-West – Koniecki Male 2.9km (August 2012 to December 2015) [1st c/w] – projectmap
Poland S8: Paszkow – Warsaw-Janki (DK7) 3.8km (March 2014 to December 2015) – projectmap
Poland DK7: Sekocin Stary – Sekocin Las 1.1km (September 2014 to December 2015) – projectmap
Slovakia D1: Fricovce – Svinia 11.2km (December 2011 to December 2015) – projectmap
Spain A27: Valls-North – Valls-South 5.7km (? to December 2015) – ? – map
Spain A316: Puente del Obispo-South - Puente del Obispo-North 5.8km (? to December 2015) – projectmap
Spain A316: Puente del Obispo-North – Baeza-West 4.5km (? to December 2015) – projectmap
Spain AC15: A Coruna Outer Port – Pastoriza (AG55) ~5km (< 2011 to December 2015) – ? – map
Germany A14: AS Groß Warnow – AS Karstädt 10.8km (October 2013 to Late December 2015) – projectmap
Serbia A4: Crvena Reka – Ciflik 12.7km (October 2011 to Late December 2015) – projectmap
Belarus MKAD2: Rakaw (M6) – Haroski (P28) 18km (Early 2014 to Late 2015) – ? – map
Bulgaria I1: Montana bypass 12.5km (September 2013 to Late 2015) – projectmap
Kosovo M9: Gllareve – Gjergjice 10km (June 2014 to Late 2015) – ? – map
Morocco A3: Rabat-East (A1/A2) – Sale El Jadida 5.1km (2010 to Late 2015) – ? – map
Morocco A3: Sale El Jadida – Skhirat (A3) 36.0km (2010 to Late 2015) – ? – map
Romania A1: Timisoara-East – Balint (A6) 35.6km (2011 to Late 2015) – ? – map
Serbia A2: Ljig – Boljkovci 10.7km (2012 to Late 2015) [1st c/w] – projectmap
Serbia A2: Boljkovci – Takovo 12.6km (2012 to Late 2015) [1st c/w] – projectmap
Serbia A2: Takovo – Preljina 17.1km (2012 to Late 2015) [1st c/w] – projectmap
Spain FV2: Matas Blancas – El Salmo 14.3km (? to Late 2015) – ? – map
Greece A29: Krystalopigi – Koromilia 15km (2012 to 2015) – projectmap
Italy SS640: Agrigento – Canicatti 8km (March 2009 to 2015) – projectmap
Russia P242: Lobanovo – Koyanovo 6.8km (Late 2012 to 2015) – projectmap
Spain A33: La Font de la Figuera (A35) – Caudete (A31) 12.5km (? to >= 2015) – ? – map
Spain A2-AP7: Castellbisbal (A2) – Castellbisbal (AP7) 1km (2007 to >= 2015) – projectmap

Please correct if data is outdated.
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For technical reason, this thread is not being updated anymore!


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Maybe this thread should stay as a place where other users report updates and discuss your list?
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Here is the official map by the General Directorate of Highways, you can also find English definitions of legends on right-bottom of the map. Focus on the West parts.

The smallest part of u/c projects is the first section of Norhern Marmara Motorway( 95 km ) which is quite big whether we compare any other ordinary projects in another country. Other ones will be opened in one time for each, not piece by piece.
You know, i looked up the project pages which you provided us with. The english version is much smaller. So afterwards i treid to understnad the turkish one. As it was not such clear for me, what could be important, i just opened every single subpage in its order. I found the maps, but some were old, others unclear. I did not want to complain before i looked up every piece. Maybe its just my fault, but i supposed it must be a good idea to give more information about such huge projects. Often every step forward is used by politicians. To find 2 pictures and one small paragraph about some hundred kilometers of highway was not much to work with.

Thank you for the map. Its legend says motorways under construciotn are yellow. But there are none. Just white ones, which semmes to be a planning.
It says it was made at 1st of january this year. But some of the motorways in plannung/ u/c dont show intersections at all. Anyway thats a map better than most we saw before about turkish motorways.

About the question whether long motorways are opened in one piece: I guess its not possible to get everything ready (just to the spot) at the same time exactly. So the question is, if it makes sense to open some parts earlier then the rest. Which is not the case if this parts end at smaller connection raods which cannot carry traffic etc. It could also be a political decision. But often the idea to get some positive news for opening an section as early as possible might not be so unlikely.

I really hope that there is a continuous flow of information about whats going on. I am really interested Thank you for contributing.
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Maybe this thread should stay as a place where other users report updates and discuss your list?
Thats a good idea. This way MichiH stays in control about his Thread, and can change it by necessity, even make it longer, without help of mods moving something. Also it would not destroy the bright picture there, if the discussion here gets sometimes derail
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About the question whether long motorways are opened in one piece: I guess its not possible to get everything ready (just to the spot) at the same time exactly. So the question is, if it makes sense to open some parts earlier then the rest. Which is not the case if this parts end at smaller connection raods which cannot carry traffic etc. It could also be a political decision. But often the idea to get some positive news for opening an section as early as possible might not be so unlikely.

I really hope that there is a continuous flow of information about whats going on. I am really interested Thank you for contributing.
I've not yet checked the provided data. I cannot add a new country when I don't get frequent info from other forumers. I hope I'll get it about Turkey.

It is possible to open a several hundreds kilometer of motorway on one day - I think it happens in China - but it's not very likely in any countries. When contracts are signed, the completion deadlines are usually the same for all contractors. If there's no updated info (no one what's to admit that there could be a delay and one could really get a problem for announcements like this in some countries), the completion date remains the same. In the end, it's possible that some sections are opened earlier or (more likely) are delayed (for many years). Completed parts of new roads are sometimes not (officially) in service because the next interchange is in the neighboring section where works are not completed for any reason (see A2 Serbia or A1 Romania near Lugoj).

I think it's okay for my list but I'd like to get as much and as detailed info as possible. That means, info if some sections will be opened earlier or are delayed. If info like this is provided by the authorities, government or construction companies...

Of course, I cannot expect that I get as detailed info about Turkish projects like I get about Polish projects .

Again, sorry, I have not yet checked the Iranian and Turkish project list but I hope I can do it later this year (updating the existing list takes a lot of time and it's just a hobby...).
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Thats a good idea. This way MichiH stays in control about his Thread, and can change it by necessity, even make it longer, without help of mods moving something. Also it would not destroy the bright picture there, if the discussion here gets sometimes derail
I'm not sure if it's useful to have two threads. Generally, I prefer discussing all updated info in the thread of the country because it's a general news which is also interesting for other forumers. And I want to have discussion about the news! I want posts like "Finally! Do you know how..." or "Yes, and here some pics I've taken..." or "I don't believe that the announcement can be fulfilled because I was there and the road is not yet completed".

"My thread" is just a summary of all u/c projects. I think there's almost no need for discussion if it's handled like described. Of course, general discussion like this post should be in the summary thread.

Thanks to all supporting this projects and I'm happy about all info but I read the threads of all (listed) countries. I'm used to start reading the countries' threads first. The summary thread is the last one. It's not necessary to post duplicates like x, x or x (I don't want to blame anyone though!). I already got the info from the countries' thread. Others - which are maybe not used to read all threads - usally get the info by my modification list of my next update.

But it's not "my show". If you want to keep this thread alive, I could rename the thread to "New motorway projects discussion". I'm happy about each info and in the end I don't care how I got the info .

The thread could also be used for general discussion which is not country-specific, e.g. about a motorway from Poland to Adriatic Sea et cetera (which is usually discussed in the thread of one country only and some forumers are pissed off that the discussion is about a different country (e.g. Croatia instead of Bosnia) and the interesting discussion is stopped....).


@Mods: Both threads are stickies now. I don't know who has decided and how it's planned to be handled. Do you want to keep both threads as sticky or do you want to remove the old thread's sticky after the new thread is well-known? I don't know if it's favored to have more stickies or if it's better to have less stickies.... What do you think about a motorway discussion thread which is not country-specific?


Btw, I was used to copy the html code of the first post to have an offline backup (I really had to use it a several times when saving the post was aborted). I have too many posts now and I cannot handle it this way. For this reason, I optimized my offline list and I have not copied the data from the old thread but from my offline list. It would be great if you could check that data of the new thread is still correct. I will not delete the content of the first post now but I will do it later on. E.g. if we really want to use this thread for "general motorway discussion about new motorway projects which is not country-specific".
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@Mods: Both threads are stickies now. I don't know who has decided and how it's planned to be handled. Do you want to keep both threads as sticky or do you want to remove the old thread's sticky after the new thread is well-known? I don't know if it's favored to have more stickies or if it's better to have less stickies.... What do you think about a motorway discussion thread which is not country-specific?
I thought we could have both threads stickied for a little while as a 'transition period'. I'd like to keep the number of stuck/stickied threads as low as possible.

I think it's better to keep the discussion about the list in the list thread itself, that way it remains relevant and current. Otherwise you'll have an important thread with no active posts for months or even years at one point, which seems kind of strange.
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You know, i looked up the project pages which you provided us with. The english version is much smaller. So afterwards i treid to understnad the turkish one. As it was not such clear for me, what could be important, i just opened every single subpage in its order. I found the maps, but some were old, others unclear. I did not want to complain before i looked up every piece. Maybe its just my fault, but i supposed it must be a good idea to give more information about such huge projects. Often every step forward is used by politicians. To find 2 pictures and one small paragraph about some hundred kilometers of highway was not much to work with.

Thank you for the map. Its legend says motorways under construciotn are yellow. But there are none. Just white ones, which semmes to be a planning.
It says it was made at 1st of january this year. But some of the motorways in plannung/ u/c dont show intersections at all. Anyway thats a map better than most we saw before about turkish motorways.

About the question whether long motorways are opened in one piece: I guess its not possible to get everything ready (just to the spot) at the same time exactly. So the question is, if it makes sense to open some parts earlier then the rest. Which is not the case if this parts end at smaller connection raods which cannot carry traffic etc. It could also be a political decision. But often the idea to get some positive news for opening an section as early as possible might not be so unlikely.

I really hope that there is a continuous flow of information about whats going on. I am really interested Thank you for contributing.
You're so right. Infos on the offical pages are neither clear nor sufficient to understand size and details of the projects.

When it comes to the map, actually the unpainted ones (they suppose to be yellow as per the legends shown on the map) are "clearly" approved projects officially. I defined them on my previous post, not all are under construction at the moment, some is just on "planning" phase. Highway directorate is going to update te map accordingly, i believe.

I will try to contribute here as much as find a chance. There're many photos, Project infos and "current situation" infos on Turkish websites, so, i will also translate and add them here (maybe on a seperate thread) briefly to share latest progresses.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 03:28 PM   #816
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When it comes to the map, actually the unpainted ones are "clearly" approved projects officially. I defined them on my previous post, not all are under construction at the moment, some is just on "planning" phase.
Does your list contain u/c projects only or does it contain clearly approved projects too?

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I will try to contribute here as much as find a chance. There're many photos, Project infos and "current situation" infos on Turkish websites, so, i will also translate and add them here (maybe on a seperate thread) briefly to share latest progresses.
Thanks . I think you should post all info in the international Turkish thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=430254.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 04:55 AM   #817
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You're so right. Infos on the offical pages are neither clear nor sufficient to understand size and details of the projects.

When it comes to the map, actually the unpainted ones (they suppose to be yellow as per the legends shown on the map) are "clearly" approved projects officially. I defined them on my previous post, not all are under construction at the moment, some is just on "planning" phase. Highway directorate is going to update te map accordingly, i believe.
Oh, because of your post i looked up the turkish forum. I can not quantify it, but i have just the feeling that the share in english language is lower than in other easter-european ones i read, and thats also jsut a feeling, but after some travveling around i understand a bit in several languages, but not in turkish. That does not mean to say anything about how relative turkish is to any language i understand better. But that leaves us unenlighted ones to the pictures. Which teaches that not only 3rd bosporus bridge but the whole project is under construction and they have really effort to do something. On the other hand the bridge over the bay of marmara sea somewhere between Diliskelesi and Hersek seems to be just a plan right now.

So maybe you can motivate your "fellow" forumers in turkish forum to give some more information in english, this way other can pick up the info themselves. Or you animate them to help you build up an information flow. For me it was mostly just page turning in search for pictures

And be sure that i don'nt want to be critical about any info. Its just about digging up more. I question because i know so little. And sometimes i offer a guess... nothing else.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 08:23 AM   #818
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Does your list contain u/c projects only or does it contain clearly approved projects too?
Gebze-Izmır and Odayeri Pasakoy are u/c. Others are approved but physical Works are not started. Only Ankara - Nigde is not clear, i mean it will be constructed but beginning date and other details are not revealed and stated by officials. However, Highway directorate has shown the route for this part on its official map. We can say it's on planning phase as of the date.

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Oh, because of your post i looked up the turkish forum. I can not quantify it, but i have just the feeling that the share in english language is lower than in other easter-european ones i read, and thats also jsut a feeling, but after some travveling around i understand a bit in several languages, but not in turkish. That does not mean to say anything about how relative turkish is to any language i understand better. But that leaves us unenlighted ones to the pictures. Which teaches that not only 3rd bosporus bridge but the whole project is under construction and they have really effort to do something. On the other hand the bridge over the bay of marmara sea somewhere between Diliskelesi and Hersek seems to be just a plan right now.

So maybe you can motivate your "fellow" forumers in turkish forum to give some more information in english, this way other can pick up the info themselves. Or you animate them to help you build up an information flow. For me it was mostly just page turning in search for pictures

And be sure that i don'nt want to be critical about any info. Its just about digging up more. I question because i know so little. And sometimes i offer a guess... nothing else.
It's a great to share your opinions and suggestions, thanks.

Apart from that, i need to make a small addition. The Izmit Bay Bridge is u/c right now and to be completed in March 2016 according to the latest news on many news sites Here
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Could you please tell anything on the contracts signed by Poland. There are a lot of them on S5,S6,S11,S17and S61 please include them into the openings(the works weren't kicked off yet)
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It's a great to share your opinions and suggestions, thanks.

Apart from that, i need to make a small addition. The Izmit Bay Bridge is u/c right now and to be completed in March 2016 according to the latest news on many news sites Here
You are very friendly to an old man

Yes today i saw the Pictures of this bridge. I have no idea about how long it takes to finish it (except studies in mechanical engineering) but well.... it could be a political date
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