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Old May 2nd, 2006, 08:02 AM   #181
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Again no. because I already have 350 km of metro, highways, completely developed infrastructure.

I don't need to build 100 km. So why should I be jealous?

To quote myself:
you dont have maglev yet.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 08:04 AM   #182
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you dont have maglev yet.
Nor does Japan. Or Great Britain. Or the United Kingdom. Or France. Or Canada. Or Germany. Or Italy. Or South Korea. Or Denmark. Or Switzerland. Or Norway...........

Are you going to tell me that a Norwegian is going to jealous of China as well?



Who in their right mind who lives in a rich country would wish that their country be poor but with "potential". Makes NO sense! If YOU think that China offers more opportunity, I urge you to return to the motherland and free up a spot for someone whose country offers less opportunity.

Would be the only fair thing to do.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 08:14 AM   #183
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Jealousy is the wrong context to use. More apropos is to call it the end of Western supremacy or for the racists... the end of white supremacy. Now that's more what's bugging them.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 08:17 AM   #184
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Yet you have to admit the jealousy argument is a wee bit extreme.
then how exactly do you explain the phenomenon that every time someone
praises some achievement of china, someone else from western countries would
jump out and bash china on something totally unrelated? if this is not jealousy,
then what is it? are these china bashers just plain *******s?
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 08:27 AM   #185
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"to expect non-democratic poor states to run before they can walk is unreasonable."


Which is why maglevs are so important eh?

Yep, I'm just sit'n here wish'n Parkdale had it's own maglev...preferably directly from my house to Bachus Roti.

You guys are hilarious.






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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:16 AM   #186
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then how exactly do you explain the phenomenon that every time someone
praises some achievement of china, someone else from western countries would
jump out and bash china on something totally unrelated? if this is not jealousy,
then what is it? are these china bashers just plain *******s?
I live in India, here there are three wheeler vehicles made by the local Manufacturer bajaj... Now, Chinese are making the exact vehicles which bajaj has recently launched (a CNG vehicle), and everything including the lights look same.. And funny enough they name the vehicle bajaj as well... Daewoo Matiz ran into same problem.. But there are nothing thats been done in China even if the companies filed cases against the chinese manufacturers.. . The companies keep getting away breaking one law after another without getting punished... The rest of the global companies suffer for that.. GM couldnt launch its Matiz car because the local manufacturer already launched the same thing in china... I dont think this happens anywhere else in the world....
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:31 AM   #187
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Good for china though I must say that China has extremly poor record in pirating. Many foreign companies have been ripped off by their chinese counterpart. Things like this happen in India too but at small scale and mostly to cheap items. Copying a car or missile, now thats neat .Though I admit that I envy them. Come on china, time to spend some money in India.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:34 AM   #188
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did you read my analogy?

i could be jealous of India, even though China is many times richer than India.

and how many is that "many"? 2 or less than 3?
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:40 AM   #189
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if by sustainable you mean less of a threat to the west, then i guess you are right.

due to its democratic nature, it's quite difficult for all indians to act uniformly, for chinese it's different due to the autocratic nature of the government. i guess you are really JEALOUS of our cohesion, eh?

You mean forced cohesion. I think the very idea of democracy is to let everyone form their own opinion. "Cohesion", as you mentioned leads to jingoism. And India is bad example but democracy and "prosperity" go hand in hand. There is this government can do. China really lacks private enterprise which is the base of any rich country. Sooner or later China would have to make a decision: be democratic or wither. There are no exceptions.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:41 AM   #190
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then how exactly do you explain the phenomenon that every time someone
praises some achievement of china, someone else from western countries would
jump out and bash china on something totally unrelated? if this is not jealousy,
then what is it? are these china bashers just plain *******s?
I recommend you speak in a more respectful manner.



No one is ever jealous about other people being poorer than them. NEVER.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:42 AM   #191
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I live in India, here there are three wheeler vehicles made by the local Manufacturer bajaj... Now, Chinese are making the exact vehicles which bajaj has recently launched (a CNG vehicle), and everything including the lights look same.. And funny enough they name the vehicle bajaj as well... Daewoo Matiz ran into same problem.. But there are nothing thats been done in China even if the companies filed cases against the chinese manufacturers.. . The companies keep getting away breaking one law after another without getting punished... The rest of the global companies suffer for that.. GM couldnt launch its Matiz car because the local manufacturer already launched the same thing in china... I dont think this happens anywhere else in the world....
you see this thread is about subways and trains, i wonder why you would talk about cars here ...

anyway, which indian cars and chinese cars are you talking about? i find it a bit hard to believe that the chinese would name their cars with some indian names which sound like total gibberish to chinese speakers ...
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:42 AM   #192
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Jealousy is the wrong context to use. More apropos is to call it the end of Western supremacy or for the racists... the end of white supremacy. Now that's more what's bugging them.

I thought chinese were white, no Thats not a good "cohesion", you know..
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:43 AM   #193
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you see this thread is about subways and trains, i wonder why you would talk about cars here ...

anyway, which indian cars and chinese cars are you talking about? i find it a bit hard to believe that the chinese would name their cars with some indian names which sound like total gibberish to chinese speakers ...

well you know he is lying.. let the poor guy have his day, atleast for once!!
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:46 AM   #194
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i would be jealous too if the other city is building 100 km subway everyear but it takes my city 10 years to evaluate a plan to build 10 km subway, and it's still not built yet.

do you understand now?

Not really. Atleast in later case, subway is not built on house and dream of some poor guy.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:50 AM   #195
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Good for china though I must say that China has extremly poor record in pirating. Many foreign companies have been ripped off by their chinese counterpart. Things like this happen in India too but at small scale and mostly to cheap items. Copying a car or missile, now thats neat .Though I admit that I envy them. Come on china, time to spend some money in India.
Yeah ! good for china, here are some articles when talking bout Piracy in China and producing fake products....
http://paultan.org/archives/2006/01/01/china/
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/GA15Ad03.html

That Egg faking is funny though
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:56 AM   #196
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well you know he is lying.. let the poor guy have his day, atleast for once!!
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/jan/1279932.htm
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/1483953.cms
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:57 AM   #197
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Okay can we not abuse a country? I wonder if there is a rule against this? As I said, one way or other chinese are dealing with their situation. And they do have world's attention (albeit bring ahem, "poverty", "piracy", "human right abuse") and it's not Iran kind of attention.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 10:28 AM   #198
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Yeah ! good for china, here are some articles when talking bout Piracy in China and producing fake products....
http://paultan.org/archives/2006/01/01/china/
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/GA15Ad03.html

That Egg faking is funny though
funny i don't see any mention of india in those two articles ... and as you've
offered no proof for your chinese-copying-indian-car allegation, i have to
conclude that you are a liar.

oh, speaking of indian piracy, well, i guess you guys are no better than china
in the eyes of americans:

India on US Priority Watch List again
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 10:31 AM   #199
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funny i don't see any mention of india in those two articles ... and as you've
offered no proof for your chinese-copying-indian-car allegation, i have to
conclude that you are a liar.

oh, speaking of indian piracy, well, i guess you guys are no better than china
in the eyes of americans:

India on US Priority Watch List again

there's a saying in India, "chor chor mausere bhai", meaning theives are cousin by default. So friends, right! I am so waiting to see Renminbi flowing in India.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 10:38 AM   #200
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I recommend you speak in a more respectful manner.
i see you've once again tiptoed around my simple question -- can i ever get a
straight answer from you?

respect must be mutual, you cannot possibly ask me to respect someone who
plainly has no respect for me.

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No one is ever jealous about other people being poorer than them. NEVER.
once again, you amazed me with your simplisitic way of thinking, well done!

i believe a more accurate way to describe jealousy is that "if i have something
that you want but cannot get, you will be jealous of me". you can be the richest
person in the world, but if i lived a much more happier life than you did, or
if my wife was 1000 times hotter than yours, then you would probably be
jealous of me. does that make any sense?
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