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Old May 6th, 2006, 07:43 AM   #261
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Er.. that goes to prove that even though India is getting 1/10 of what china is getting in FDI, it's still not that behind when it comes patent filling (whatever they are worth..), no?
You are now admitting that China FDI is 10 times bigger than that of India.
However, you denied on your earlier post stating that China FDI was not 10 times bigger.
Good you are learning since you have admitted your earlier mistake.

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No i don't. First of all China doesn't get 10 times more FDI than India. Second, FDI is not a "monolithic" entity. There are "various" things in which you can invest. China has created a whole "anything manufactured for peanut price till it doesn't require much skill" industry. Since world needs such a kind job, the most, china gets highest FDI. And if you think that a "shoe" company evaluates the risk of investment in India, you are mistaken. In India most of FDI goes to jobs which require more skill (automobile part, gems,...) and since you don't have market for these, you don't get much investment.

Not though I know that you have any clue about any of these, but I was curious about the fields where India provides "no risk" and where many multinational companies have invested money. But seeing the breadth of ingnorance here, it was clearly a futile question.
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Old May 6th, 2006, 09:35 AM   #262
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As of this year, China is about 7 times more. And that should be obvious. Look at china! Massive growth.

Now I have a question,
How much cheaper will China's maglev technology be than current technology by Germany and Japan. Japan's maglev technology is Double the cost of Shinkansen Bullet Train Technology. Is China able to lower maglev cost to Shinkansen Tech cost?
If China has, will they sell and build for other countries. Because India is thinking of setting up bullet train using Japan or German technology. But if China has maglev for same price which runs double the speed, India should buy from China!
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Old May 6th, 2006, 09:59 AM   #263
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As of this year, China is about 7 times more. And that should be obvious. Look at china! Massive growth.

Now I have a question,
How much cheaper will China's maglev technology be than current technology by Germany and Japan. Japan's maglev technology is Double the cost of Shinkansen Bullet Train Technology. Is China able to lower maglev cost to Shinkansen Tech cost?
If China has, will they sell and build for other countries. Because India is thinking of setting up bullet train using Japan or German technology. But if China has maglev for same price which runs double the speed, India should buy from China!
Thank you for the correction concerning the FDI.
The Chinese government claim to be cheaper than the German one. By how much I am not certain. Usually new technology are very expensive at the beginning but as time passes it become cheaper. Assuming that it survive long enough to reach maturity.

I am sure that China want to make the maglev to a comercial success so I am sure that China would sell it to India. Look, China has big commercial business with Japan, Russia and many other countries that have had confrontation in the past so I don't see any reason why China would not sell it to India. Besides the trade between China and India is increasing every years.

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Old May 6th, 2006, 12:42 PM   #264
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today there is an article in the printversion of the financial times deutschland, which says that if the transrapid malgev project in munich between the downton main station and the airport,which is currently in the stage of federal approval, will fail, the german industry ( siemens and thyssen-krupp) will sell all their patents to the chinese....

Or, as Otto von Bismark sayd it: Denk ich an Deutschland in der Nacht, bin ich um den schlaf gebracht.

Good night germany, good morning china
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Old May 6th, 2006, 02:01 PM   #265
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India and China are the best place to implement maglev technology because of the high no of users who will use it as compared to the western world.. And if the cost is between a normal rail fare and an air fare and travelling at half speed of a plane, there will be a huge no of users using it.. Consider the fact, in India airfares are one of the highest in the world thanks to the ATF set by the Indian govt. Still there are more than 70 flights a day between Delhi and Mumbai, which indicates the no of ppl who travels between these cities . Half that speed and half that cost will very much double the number of ppl travelling (for eg, a passenger wouldnt mind spending four hours on a maglev compared to 2 hrs on flight when you pay half the fare and have no hassles of checking in at airport terminals and so on)... ALL THe BEST
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Old May 6th, 2006, 03:17 PM   #266
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Or, as Otto von Bismark sayd it: Denk ich an Deutschland in der Nacht, bin ich um den schlaf gebracht.
That quote is from Heinrich Heine.
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Old May 6th, 2006, 03:36 PM   #267
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Old May 6th, 2006, 03:44 PM   #268
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The TransRapid is a waste of money.
The train who travels between Hong Kong city and the airport is 130km/h fast. So a 500km/h fast connection is useless. You can`t safe much time in short ranges.
In the middle range you have fast trains like the ICE, Shinkasen. There you can`t safe much time either. You also can`t use the tracks of the maglev for trains with goods.
In the long range where you really can safe time you also can use a plane.

Maglev is dead
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Old May 6th, 2006, 03:52 PM   #269
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Maglev is going to be extended (to Hangzhou).
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Old May 6th, 2006, 03:54 PM   #270
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Maglev is going to be extended (to Hangzhou).
How much time will the Maglev safe?
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Old May 6th, 2006, 04:06 PM   #271
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if conventional train can only travel at 200 Km/h , maglev can travel at 450 km/h, i suppose a lot of time will be saved.

also maglev also serves to deviate of some of the high way traffic between Shanghai and Hangzhou, Hangzhou is a popular destination for Shanghai citizens to spend their weekend , the highway traffics is very congested.

a maglev line between airport and the city doesnt make much sense, but that was built study the future prospect of building maglev for long distance lines, such as the Beijing-Shanghai HSR line,
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Old May 6th, 2006, 05:31 PM   #272
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today with Rail:
Shanghai Hangzhou 2:30 hr
with malgev

0:26 hr
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Old May 6th, 2006, 07:52 PM   #273
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how long would it take if you drive in perfect and normal traffic scenarios?
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Old May 6th, 2006, 08:21 PM   #274
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India and China are the best place to implement maglev technology because of the high no of users who will use it as compared to the western world.. And if the cost is between a normal rail fare and an air fare and travelling at half speed of a plane, there will be a huge no of users using it.. Consider the fact, in India airfares are one of the highest in the world thanks to the ATF set by the Indian govt. Still there are more than 70 flights a day between Delhi and Mumbai, which indicates the no of ppl who travels between these cities . Half that speed and half that cost will very much double the number of ppl travelling (for eg, a passenger wouldnt mind spending four hours on a maglev compared to 2 hrs on flight when you pay half the fare and have no hassles of checking in at airport terminals and so on)... ALL THe BEST
Also in future lot more people will be able to afford since China will have 1st or 2nd largest economy in world and India will have 3rd largest economy.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 05:04 AM   #275
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today with Rail:
Shanghai Hangzhou 2:30 hr
with malgev

0:26 hr
0:26 hr?
This is only possible if there are no stops between Shanghai and Hangzhou.

You can also use a faster train who makes no stops in cities like Songjiang and Haining. 1 hour should be possible with a fast train.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 06:35 AM   #276
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Old June 14th, 2006, 09:08 PM   #277
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World Bank Urges China to Boost Public Transport

World Bank urges China to boost public transport

BEIJING, June 14 (Reuters) - China needs to improve public transport to help curb choking traffic jams instead of building more and more highways to make room for private cars, the World Bank said on Wednesday.

Too few Chinese cities had devised coherent urban transport plans while those that had often failed to stick to them, it said.

"A major challenge for the Chinese cities now is how to develop an efficient bus transport system before the critical mass of motorists is formed and shapes an irreversible, auto-dependent land use pattern," it said.

Urban transport problems in China were beginning to affect the productivity of workers and lead to excessive conversion of agricultural land, it said.

Most cities needed to find alternatives to urban rail networks given the high costs involved and the length of time spent on building such systems.

Chinese cities, including even second-tier ones, are already investing billions of dollars in new or expanded subway systems.

By 2010, 35 percent of Shanghai's commuters are expected to use the subway, up from 12 percent in 2005, by which time Shanghai will have 11 subway lines totalling 400 km (240 miles), state media has said.

In Beijing -- where about 1,000 new vehicles take to the road a day -- the average speed during peak hours on the city's arterial roads had dropped by half in the last decade, the report said.

And in the southern boomtown on Shenzhen, across the border from Hong Kong, traffic accidents have been the top killer for the last three years, it added.
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Old June 15th, 2006, 12:58 AM   #278
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What do they think China's been doing all these years. You can only built so much so fast at a short time, its not like they're not doing it.
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Old November 5th, 2006, 11:43 PM   #279
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New Metro train made in China

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Old November 5th, 2006, 11:45 PM   #280
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wow, that looks so modern
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