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Old May 14th, 2005, 04:32 AM   #21
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Upside down does have some advantages such as it doesn't need continuously levtiation above the track to run while the upside down one just hangs, requiring less energy.
??? You cannot hang without having something to hang on to - the track - otherwise you'll just fall down. But if you hang on the track, you also have to lavitate or you'll have friction like hell scratching along the whole track!
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Old May 14th, 2005, 06:27 AM   #22
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Looks pretty stupid, but don't forget that Japan has hanging monorails.
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Old May 14th, 2005, 08:02 AM   #23
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I suppose the prototype isn't fine-tuned for transporting people in complete comfort. Then again, China has some silly designs.
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Old May 14th, 2005, 08:53 PM   #24
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Actually, I remembered suspended railways were designed partly to resist weathering and ease maintenance. Pehaps this is the intent of the Chinese system. Railways that run suspended trains can be blocked from rain, snow, wind-blown debris, etc.
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Old May 15th, 2005, 12:28 AM   #25
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I think the reason for it to be upside down is for the maglev to accelerate at great speeds without losing velocity.
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Old May 15th, 2005, 01:28 AM   #26
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any design that is different from the western world's is always silly and ridiculous??
When did we start defining anything in western is right, and anything in eastern is "naturally" wrong??
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Old May 15th, 2005, 01:38 AM   #27
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Agree with vincent - we shouldn't judge the design too harshly from our Western viewpoint. Although I admit the prototype looks more reminiscent of Alton Towers than Intercity Express!
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Old May 15th, 2005, 02:04 AM   #28
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Why the hell do they put the doors opening that way, and not the regular way?!
Despite being overhanged, it could still have regular doors, which would be much more practical.

Here is an example:

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/vrr/wuppertal.htm

Check the pictures! Overhanged with regular access to the train.
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Old May 15th, 2005, 02:21 AM   #29
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i can see big advantages of overhanging maglevs, though maintanance might be more tricky snow, flooding, leaves on the track can all be avoided.
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Old May 15th, 2005, 03:08 AM   #30
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wow, thats pretty cool
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Old May 15th, 2005, 04:19 AM   #31
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New maglev makes debut in northeastern China
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New maglev makes debut in China

A scientist is introducing the characteristics of the new maglev train.

Jounalists have the first try to take the trains.

The newly-developed light maglev train "Zhonghua-06" based on the technology of suspended rail made debut in Dalian in northeast China's Liaoning Province on May 11.

The train is a significant project of which China has the indigenous intellectual property.

Li Lingqun, chief scientist of the research group, said that such a structure is simple in the forces received and is material saving. It reduces the weight of road and automobiles and can run at a high speed.

The cost for a two-way line is about RMB 80 million yuan per kilometer, only 28 percent of the currently world advanced technologies.

Moreover, the train features high degree of safety. Derailment and overturn can be avoided as the train is set in suspended track.

With a designed speed of 400 kilometers per hour, the train is an inter-city vehicle dedicated to economic zones in large and medium-sized cities.
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Old May 15th, 2005, 04:27 AM   #32
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China's light maglev train "Zhonghua-06" made debut in Dalian in northeast China's Liaoning Province on May 11. The train is 9.6 meters long, 1.65 meters wide and 1.87 meters high. The designed speed is 400 kPH




The driver's cabin in the Zhonghua-06 maglev.
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Old May 17th, 2005, 04:25 AM   #33
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is there any advantage to having it like that or is it a case of "look what i can do" :/
China and India are huge..in term of population. Thousand cities are waiting for better rail solution. and since they have abundance of cheap and smart graduated engineers available for few dollars..
It's much cheaper to "I can do it" rather than "I'm importing(wasting) it again".

sooner India will join the 'race'. I hope
Great news for all smaller countries (Malaysia, Brunei..etc)...more bargain when shopping on high-speed train solution.
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Old May 17th, 2005, 07:33 AM   #34
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There is a need to build an intercity transportation network between China's largest cities. The present railway system is not high speed and since many millions travel between these cities regularly, there is an urgent need to improve the railway network. Air travel is still not affordable to the masses.
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Old May 18th, 2005, 03:56 AM   #35
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It looks like it's an upside-down high-speed train . Also, how do you evacuate such a train in an emergency? You don't, right?
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Old May 18th, 2005, 04:12 AM   #36
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Very fascinating. But why the overhang design, I wonder. Does anyone know?
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Old May 18th, 2005, 04:16 AM   #37
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whaaaaaa, *crash* that's what happens in a emergency, nothing down below!

It looks like a very prototype, not a great design for mass transit system, there could be lot of lawsuits for tons of head banging and hitting there, ow!
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Old May 18th, 2005, 04:58 AM   #38
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Who's supposed to survive a 400 km/h rail crash anyway?
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Old May 21st, 2005, 06:13 PM   #39
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Guys who cares if its overhang or not? Point is this... China is a developing country and they have made new advances. One being developing their own maglev transportation system that is 100% Chinese. The overhang design is just a PROTOTYPE... having said this they can just easily put this on a "normal" rail system and use it. BTW, what other countries have their own homegrown maglev technology? Germany, Japan, now China, where else?
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Old May 25th, 2005, 06:50 AM   #40
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Check the pictures! Overhanged with regular access to the train.
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That is a very old train. The Chinese runs at 400 Km, I think the old regular look train run at a very slow speed. The high speed demand a different look and the door is just a compromise to the speed requirement and the cost for a prototype.
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