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Old March 9th, 2008, 11:44 AM   #401
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What is Hong Kong model of competition between modes?
The bus companies compete with the tram, which competes with the MTR, which competes with ferry traffic. They all compete for passengers like in a free market, so there is no integration between modes (e.g. when you get off the MTR you have to pay full fare to take a bus).

So my question is: are they pursuing this Hong Kong model, or are they planning and integrating all the modes?
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Old March 9th, 2008, 01:04 PM   #402
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Hey, I would like to start a thread about the Urban Rail Transit in China (Mainland, HK & Taiwan). Have a wonderful day!

Operating: (From North to South)
Changchun, Dalian, Beijing, Tianjin, Nanjing, Shanghai, Wuhan, Chongqing, Taipei, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Hong Kong.

U/C & Planning: Harbin, Shengyang, Qingdao, Wuxi, Hangzhou, Ningbo, Lanzhou, Xi'an, Chengdu, Kunming
@ChinaboyUSA, Suzhou Subway (U/C) is also missed from the list

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Suzhou Subway Construction Schedule:

Line 1: Opening 2012.6.28
Line 2: 2012.12
Line 3: 2015
Line 4: 2015





San Yuan Cun Station rendering


Gan Jiang Lu Station rendering


Ren Min Lu Station






Suzhou Leyuan Station construction


Line 2 Jinmin East Rd Station Construction


Line 1 Cangjie Lu Station U/C
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Old March 9th, 2008, 03:24 PM   #403
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Yes, I just modified my first post! Thanks for your updating.
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Old March 9th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #404
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Guangzhou



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The Chinese city of Guangzhou (formerly known as Canton) is the capital of the Guangdong Province and has 7 million inhabitants. It is situated in the south of the country near Hong Kong. Construction of a subway network was approved in 1989 and construction started in 1993.

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Old March 9th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #405
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Xiamen, in Fujian province, is also planning a metro system. I can't find any English-language sources, but there are some Chinese articles about it (see here, for example). As of that article, it was only under consideration, and I can't seem to find anything more recent; but when I was there in January, there was a lot of construction downtown for something that looked like it could be a light rail line. Does anyone know more?

Also, that Chongqing info is seriously out of date; construction on Line 1 and Line 3 has been ongoing since last summer. There should be a more up-to-date thread on Chongqing somewhere on this site. To the best of my knowledge, there are a lot of lines planned in that city; like everywhere, though, the challenge is getting funding for them, since Chongqing has neither the money nor the political heft of Beijing and Shanghai.
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Old March 9th, 2008, 10:59 PM   #406
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About Chongqing subway, there are 356km planned for 2020 and 513km by 2050. Long term plans are likely to be revised up, Chinese cities use to upgrade its subway plans quite often.







The maps above show slight differences, I don't know which one is more accurate.

Line 1: 46.1km. 21.6 of them underground.
Line 2: 37.8 km. 5.6 of them underground.
Line 3: 63.4km. 15.3 of them underground.
Line 4: 47.3km. 26.1 of them underground.
Line 5: 71.9km. 31.6 of them underground.
Line 6: 70.6km. 39.0 of them underground.
Line 7: 56km. 12 of them underground.
Line 8: 54.4km. 14.7 of them underground.
Line 9: 39.4km. 24.6 of them underground.
Ring Line: 44.9km. 30.4 of them underground.
Total: 530km+. 220+ of them underground.

http://mineye.blogbus.com/logs/14136948.html
http://www.cq.gov.cn/jjsh/cqyw/20070509110.HTM
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Old March 11th, 2008, 11:14 AM   #407
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China's metro really needs to take handicap people into consideration. The Changchun light rail new trains are neat, but certain parts of the station need help in its interior design. That ticket booth with the home like door is so wrong.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 07:40 PM   #408
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Old March 17th, 2008, 07:44 PM   #409
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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:28 AM   #410
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Great topic.

Are these machines built in China or it is just assemble?
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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:42 AM   #411
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I think it's imported. Here's a piece of news on Macau light rail planning.

Macau: Government launches tender for consultation on light rail

http://www.macauhub.com.mo/en/news.php?ID=4906

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Macau, China, 22 Feb – The Macau government has selected seven international companies to present proposals for consultation on the first phase of construction of the light railway that is due to be finished in 2011, officials said Thursday.

Extending over 20 kilometers, the light railway is expected to cost around 4.2 billion patacas (US$525 million).

The Bureau for Transport Infrastructure (GIT) of the Macau government selected European companies Consulgal, from Portugal, Egis Rail, from France, Movares Nederland B.V. from the Netherlands and France’s Setec.

GIT also invited the CPG Corporation of Singapore, MRT Corporation of Hong Kong and Lea+Elliot from the United States.

The seven companies are expected to present proposals by 25 April to prepare the plan of action for the public tender to build the light railway and which will support the government in managing the project.

The first phase of the Macau light railway will be built on an elevated platform and have 23 stations linking the Portas do Cerco area, the border with the Chinese mainland, and the Pac On area on Taipa island, near the Macau International Airport, passing through the city center.

The light railway will be driven automatically (no driver) and will have the capacity to transport a maximum of 152,000 passengers per day. (macauhub)
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Old March 18th, 2008, 09:04 AM   #412
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It's a shame Bombardier didn't go and bid their ALRT trains, considering the foothold they already have in China.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 12:58 PM   #413
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Keep TW out of this thread, by China, it means PRC. Leave this thread for Mainland China only for the sanity of everyone.

Taiwan deserves a thread of its own instead of being lumped into a thread full of communist, although grand and greatly planned railways. PRC has come a long way though, keep up the good work.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 02:02 PM   #414
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Keep TW out of this thread, by China, it means PRC. Leave this thread for Mainland China only for the sanity of everyone.

Taiwan deserves a thread of its own instead of being lumped into a thread full of communist, although grand and greatly planned railways. PRC has come a long way though, keep up the good work.

I agree . Btw China has long abandoned communism, these things won't happen under the real communist rule.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 11:10 PM   #415
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Keep TW out of this thread, by China, it means PRC. Leave this thread for Mainland China only for the sanity of everyone.

Taiwan deserves a thread of its own instead of being lumped into a thread full of communist, although grand and greatly planned railways. PRC has come a long way though, keep up the good work.

The titel of this thread says China, it could eihter mean PR China or Rep. of China. No need to be so touchy.
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Keep TW out of this thread, by China, it means PRC. Leave this thread for Mainland China only for the sanity of everyone.

Taiwan deserves a thread of its own instead of being lumped into a thread full of communist, although grand and greatly planned railways. PRC has come a long way though, keep up the good work.
It’s not a place to question a country's sovereignty. Unless you identify yourself as a resident of Taiwan and want to put up effective arguments on why Taiwan shouldn't be in this thread, information on Taiwan will be included in this thread by anyone who sees fit.

I know many residences of Taiwan who sees them selves as Chinese and want their home to be apart of China, and there are many who wish for the opposite. So nobody here have any right to demand what you have demanded.

And since this isn’t a political forum, let’s all keep our political zeal under the covers and let it be.
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Old March 21st, 2008, 08:38 PM   #417
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Keep TW out of this thread, by China, it means PRC. Leave this thread for Mainland China only for the sanity of everyone.

Taiwan deserves a thread of its own instead of being lumped into a thread full of communist, although grand and greatly planned railways. PRC has come a long way though, keep up the good work.
You had a reasonable argumentation until the communist-part. As the thread title is "China Urban Rail Transit Compilation", Taiwan will stay in this thread, as it is as Chinese as PRC.
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Old March 27th, 2008, 10:27 AM   #418
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People usually refer to Taiwan as "Chinese" (for example Chinese Taipei) but term "China" is reserved for PRC. The title of the thread is "China Urban Rail", I think it is not appropriate to put Taiwan in this compilation.

I wouldn't argue if the title is "Chinese Urban Rail..."
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Old March 27th, 2008, 11:41 AM   #419
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People usually refer to Taiwan as "Chinese" (for example Chinese Taipei) but term "China" is reserved for PRC.
"reserved" by whom? The Polish government?
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Old March 27th, 2008, 03:37 PM   #420
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"reserved" by whom? The Polish government?
no, by Italian one
by the common use.
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