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Old January 30th, 2014, 06:18 AM   #181
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Hudson Spire is the only name that should be used.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 07:36 AM   #182
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I deleted a full page of garbages, the next person post any off topic and name calling comment will be suspended.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 07:37 PM   #183
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Hudson Spire is the only name that should be used.
yea I like that name for this, especially if this ends up being the tallest in the city.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 09:03 PM   #184
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New York Spire will be better.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 06:21 PM   #185
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I agree with Hudson Spire. The river's bigger than the town. Makes for a bigger name.

I don't like the stand-in model though. Hopefully it won't look like that (if built).
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Old January 31st, 2014, 06:38 PM   #186
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New York Spire will be better.
No. New York doesn't need to brag about its buildings. Let's leave that to other cities ("Shanghai Tower", "Dream Dubai Marina", "Wuhan Center", "India Tower", "Nanning Center"," Signature Tower Jakarta" etc.)

New York has always been classy: One World Trade Center, 432 Park Avenue, 111 West 57th Street, ... - I like that.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 06:49 PM   #187
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If a Chinese developer takes this site and builds a project aimed at Chinese companies, then I think that a Chinese name would be appropriate.

If an American developer buys it, it likely won't execeed 400m.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 07:27 PM   #188
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If a Chinese developer takes this site and builds a project aimed at Chinese companies, then I think that a Chinese name would be appropriate. If an American developer buys it, it likely won't execeed 400m.
Agreed.

Btw, how about The Gotham Spire for a name!

At this stage when your trying to lure foreign investors with big egos and ambitions, I think it's necessary to name a potential project as such. The Hudson Spire fits the bill.

But whatever! They can call it whatever they wish afaic, just as long it's ambitious.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 07:29 PM   #189
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No. New York doesn't need to brag about its buildings. Let's leave that to other cities ("Shanghai Tower", "Dream Dubai Marina", "Wuhan Center", "India Tower", "Nanning Center"," Signature Tower Jakarta" etc.)

New York has always been classy: One World Trade Center, 432 Park Avenue, 111 West 57th Street, ... - I like that.
Not to forget the best (nick)name of them all, Empire State Building.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 07:38 PM   #190
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No. New York doesn't need to brag about its buildings. Let's leave that to other cities ("Shanghai Tower", "Dream Dubai Marina", "Wuhan Center", "India Tower", "Nanning Center"," Signature Tower Jakarta" etc.)

New York has always been classy: One World Trade Center, 432 Park Avenue, 111 West 57th Street, ... - I like that.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 10:09 PM   #192
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If a Chinese developer takes this site and builds a project aimed at Chinese companies, then I think that a Chinese name would be appropriate.

If an American developer buys it, it likely won't execeed 400m.
not exactly,if a chinese developer does swipe the site we could see them target any anchoring tenants internationally ,and the American outcry for a non-Chinese name will be in order because most American's like their towers to have more of a western name (1wtc,willis,trump,etc)
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Okay, I'm reaching...
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The CiC North American Spire??

How would that sound for a name of a tower. They would be good candidates for this or 2WTC.


CIC May Move North American Headquarters to New York from Toronto -
CIC Considers Move as Investments Falter in Canadian Energy and Resources, Sources Say

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BEIJING—China's giant sovereign-wealth fund is considering moving its North American base to New York from Toronto, according to people with direct knowledge of the matter, in a potential shift that reflects growing interest at the fund in a recovering U.S. economy and doubts over its faltering investments in the Canadian energy and resources sector.

A move to New York would mark a change in strategy by China Investment Corp., which has $580 billion in assets under management. Although CIC has bought U.S. assets, it has stayed out of the U.S. partly to avoid criticism sometimes directed at China's authoritarian government.

At a meeting held in Beijing in September, CIC executives and the fund's international advisers talked about how the fund should respond to various challenges in investing overseas. Among the topics was a possible move of CIC's North American offices to New York, according to the people.

The fund's new chief, Ding Xuedong, appeared "open to the idea," one of the people said. No final decision has been made, the people cautioned, while adding the fund could opt to have offices in both New York and Toronto....read in link
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 01:02 AM   #198
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I don't think most people would even know about it tbh...

Foreign companies head quarters are dotted all around the world and even in New York I presume; it wouldn't really make much difference to the average person...

Also it's not upto the city council to approve or object it is it? I thought if the developer welcomes a new tenant, they sign contracts, sort out money etc and it's done? That's what happens here in England... no questions asked
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 01:28 AM   #199
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You don't think Fox News would drum up some controversy over that?

Especially as this so-called Hudson Spire, owned and built by China, would be taking the crown of tallest building in America from 1WTC, a building so invested with American patriotism it's practically a national symbol at this point?

I would have thought, as Americans, most of the people on this forum would want an American company to build and rent the Hudson site. That's what used to happen. Sears had the title of World's Tallest for decades and now people are so desperate for anything tall they're hoping China will come into their backyard and build something for them.

What happened?
That's the most pathetic and racist bollox I've ever pointed out before. Who cares if it's Chinese, America is portrayed multi-cultural by the government which means that communism and Chinese is welcome as well. Also the media is owned by the government, so why wouldn't they want some more investment cash flowing into NYC. And if the people are angry, then the American people who think they are so good should go ahead and build something even taller right next to it, instead of being cowards and trying to stop the whole project being built in the land of opportunity, where Chinese could build something in freedom as well.
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 04:54 AM   #200
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I doubt that many in Shanghai would welcome to Pudong a 700 meter "Manhattan Tower" funded by a consortium of American companies. So even if this Hudson Boulevard tower was funded by Chinese investment I think they'd probably name it "Hudson Spire".
To the contrary, many of the Chinese skyscrapers are named after NYC.

If NYC's tallest tower is built by the Chinese, it would speak to the lack of American gumption when it comes to building supertalls, and nothing more.

It would hopefully encourage American companies to step up to the plate when building corporate icons.

There are many opportunities to capture growth, but NYC seems to be neglecting several fields. Besides the abundance of suburban corporate campuses in the NYC region -- which Manhattan should be fighting for -- you have emerging companies like SpaceX that will (IMO) be among the leaders of the future, and NYC should be vying for their HQs.

With the boom in 'Silicon Alley,' Manhattan is emerging as a center of tech & free-flowing capital, with proximity to the heart of the global financial sector the city's only real leg up against San Francisco. NYC needs to exploit this better.
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