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Old May 22nd, 2014, 02:19 AM   #601
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NYC is getting a lot of supertalls proposed and u/c, hope all of them gets constructed, and it looks like it is not falling out of the race afterall.
Who said it was falling out of the race? It actually appears to be leading it, as it should, being the original skyscraper city.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 02:45 AM   #602
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^. I always found this argument hilarious, in fact NYC right now has more supertall under construction or planned than any other city in the world except for Dubai (more according to SSP, less according to Emporis). And we're talking about what's already a world class city not a developing one, which is quite impressive so there's no debate there.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 10:07 PM   #603
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They will be constructed. NYC is the world capital.

There may be 20 towers over 1,000+ feet in the very near future:

Completed, under construction, and topped out are the following:

Empire State Building
Chrysler Building
One World Trade Center
One57
432 Park Avenue

The following towers will surely be constructed at some point:

217 West 57th Street
111 West 57th Street
Tower Verre
30 Hudson Yards
3 Hudson Boulevard (I think they are close to securing a tenant)
35 Hudson Yards
50 Hudson Yards
One Vanderbilt (they apparently have a tenant lined up)
Tishman Speyer's "Hudson Spire" site
Witkoff's Park Lane site
31 West 57th Street
Two World Trade Center
Three World Trade Center
514 11th Avenue
80 South Street

Truly an unprecedented time in the great city's history.
New York has 6 supertalls right now: BoA, Chrysler, Empire State, New York Times, 1WTC, One57 and 1 more U/C: 432 Park Avenue

Then there are the 15 Proposed that you listed PLUS One Manhattan West, 138 East 50th, 341 Madison, and then there's that tower in Lower Manhattan that could now be a supertall because the 2 skyscraper plots were merged (can't remember the name)

Then there's the 2 mystery buildings: Central Park Tower and the Wanda Tower. 15 Penn Plaza is also a long-term viability. 425 Park Avenue could get an upgrade.

So the cumulative tally is:
Done: 5
+T/O: 6
+U/C: 7
+Proposed: 26
+Long-Term: 30
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 01:52 PM   #604
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Somewhere between 10 and 15 supertalls by 2020 seems likely.
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 05:55 PM   #605
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You can't count those spires as supertalls though really. It's a major cheat. Where's Kanto when we need him. Really, NYC has only 3 supertalls. One57, WTC1, and ESB. Dubai has 20 and more to come.. I think NYC wll end up with around 10 supertalls to roof (that's all the matters really) after this cycle and many proposals will probably be canned due to a downturn in international demand or market slowdown. Sadly, as we saw last cycle, quite a few of those 26 proposals will be put on hold.
Most of these proposed towers will be built. This is New York.
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Old May 24th, 2014, 07:13 AM   #606
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You can't count those spires as supertalls though really. It's a major cheat. Where's Kanto when we need him. Really, NYC has only 3 supertalls. One57, WTC1, and ESB. Dubai has 20 and more to come.. I think NYC wll end up with around 10 supertalls to roof (that's all the matters really) after this cycle and many proposals will probably be canned due to a downturn in international demand or market slowdown. Sadly, as we saw last cycle, quite a few of those 26 proposals will be put on hold.
Everyone else counts spires so why shouldn't New York? How many does Dubai have not counting spires? Burj al Arab wouldn't count, for instance.
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Old May 31st, 2014, 03:31 AM   #607
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New York needs at least one 2000 footer imo. I mean, it's New York City!
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Old June 1st, 2014, 04:09 PM   #608
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New York needs at least one 2000 footer imo. I mean, it's New York City!
i wish that a tishman speyer do it
likely a +2100 ftt
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Old June 1st, 2014, 05:05 PM   #609
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i wish that a tishman speyer do it
likely a +2100 ftt
That would be nice, but not likely. I would say an optimistic but reasonable height for this building would be between 1500-1700ft to the roof with a spire maybe getting it to around 1800-2000ft.
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Old June 1st, 2014, 05:16 PM   #610
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Well, I did say it was an optimistic guess. It wouldn't surprise me if you were right, but I'm hoping for at least a 1500+ft. roof.
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 12:01 AM   #611
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Wait... What's the topic of this thread again?
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 01:15 AM   #612
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Also, New York's office towers aren't that tall.
One World Trade Center: 1,373/1,797 feet
Empire State Building: 1,250/1,474 feet
Chrysler Building: 1,046 feet

The Hudson Spire: 1,100-1,450 feet
One Vanderbilt: 1,200/ spire? feet
30 Hudson Yards: 1,227 feet
3 Hudson Boulevard: 1,034 feet
50 Hudson Yards: 1,068 feet
Two World Trade Center: 1,265/1,359 feet
Three World Trade Center: 1,073/1,171 feet


Those are massive buildings anywhere you go.
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 06:00 AM   #613
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I think that it will be between 350 and 440m.
I can't imagine this being below 400 meters unless it were really fat.

Girasole is only 1.3 or so msf and still over 1000 feet. 1WTC is about 3 million but is quite a large tower especially at the base.

I would imagine or at least hope they will add a crown or spire or both to make this NY's tallest.
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I wouldn't call 1WTC fat either.
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Let's keep to the topic folks.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 01:36 AM   #616
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On that note, any one hear anything whats going on with this potential gem?
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Old June 4th, 2014, 02:20 AM   #617
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On that note, any one hear anything whats going on with this potential gem?
In case anybody doesn't know, or forgot with all of that blabber, Tishman Speyer aquired the entire block and plans to build something "truly iconic"
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Old June 4th, 2014, 04:56 AM   #618
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well here's hoping they make good on their promise!
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