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Old July 7th, 2014, 09:55 PM   #681
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61 floors? yeah sure this will be 549m. but hey its new york, so someone said 549m and this height ended in the thread title...
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Old July 7th, 2014, 09:57 PM   #682
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Frankly with just 61 floors it's rather unlikely it will even reach 1400ft without some huge spire.
Agree. 1400 pushing it. Just hope it's going to be jewel with that price tag.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 10:05 PM   #683
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at 61 floors we'll be lucky for a roof height of a supertall tbh!
That much square footage on that amount of floors would make it have a huge girth then! let's hope height floor to ceiling heights play a part here!

In comparison, how much will 30 Hudson Yards cost to build and how much square footage?

This building sounds like it could be quality over quantity, which I can't say i disapprove
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Old July 7th, 2014, 10:05 PM   #684
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61 floors? yeah sure this will be 549m. but hey its new york, so someone said 549m and this height ended in the thread title...
I'm really not surprised by the height. Before now it was nothing more but wet dreams of some creative seller. And now it seems the tower won't be much taller than the thing previously planned for this plot.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 10:06 PM   #685
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Looks like One WTC will be still hold the title for the tallest structure in NY for a while (by spire height, that is.)
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Old July 7th, 2014, 10:10 PM   #686
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this will be a supertall, and it will be... tall. People shouldn't consider anything such as floor count as final. According to the article posted one week ago, the building is still in design. I'm no expert, buy I would say that one does not simply finalize a design, which include floor count, in less than a week. Also, One Vanderbilt, at 1350 ft stands at less than 70 stories.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 10:13 PM   #687
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London is just as great as (if not even better than) NY, but it does not have 8,000 years of history. It was a tiny trading village 2,000 years ago and remained so until around the late 1600s when it really started to grow. London had 60,000 people in 1,500. Clearly, The London of today looks nothing like the London of 400 years ago, let alone 1,000 or 2,000 years ago.
There are artefacts and archaeological sites in London from the early neolithic. They all have the blue English heritage plaques that I was speaking of, each one designating their location. Even a tiny trading village has history in this part of the world.
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61 stories for a 549m tower?!?!? That's like 8-9m per floor!!!
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Old July 7th, 2014, 10:41 PM   #689
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The 549m tower was never real...
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...doesn't mean it won't be...
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Old July 7th, 2014, 10:46 PM   #691
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Yeah, I'm not terribly surprised, and really all I've been hoping for is a gem of a design with enough height to stand out above to 30 and 35 HY. But the 1400 ft. range is hardly a stretch for 61 floors, considering that most of them will likely have very high ceilings -- retail, trading floors, Class A office space, and luxury residential.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 10:56 PM   #692
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No one actually believed they would build a 549m tower there, did they...?
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Old July 7th, 2014, 11:05 PM   #693
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No one actually believed they would build a 549m tower there, did they...?
Based on what Tishman originally submitted for the Hudson yards l thought nyet.
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Hmm, with 61 floors the tower could reach the 1,312ft / 400m mark (spire and / or crown). Still, I'm a bit disappointed. How things are going, the Hudson Yards complex (along with Manhattan West) will be a plateau of supertalls with no real peak. The North Tower got a massive height cut and now this. Also, the Equinox Tower and Silverstein's residential tower are about the same height. New York has about 30 supertalls in the pipeline, but none with a truly great height. For a signature tower you need a good design and superb height.
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Something doesn't add up. They bought a ~$500M plot and plan a $3.2B tower, yet it will only be 61 stories?

Sounds like a lot of money for a small tower. They'll probably revise a few things before this actually gets built. No way do they spend that kind of money on a ~1200ft tower, unless it's really fat.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 11:34 PM   #697
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This will be at least 400m.
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Something doesn't add up. They bought a ~$500M plot and plan a $3.2B tower, yet it will only be 61 stories?

Sounds like a lot of money for a small tower. They'll probably revise a few things before this actually gets built. No way do they spend that kind of money on a ~1200ft tower, unless it's really fat.
Low doesn't mean small. Afaik this tower footprint should be big so there should also be lots of usable space available, hence return of investment
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Well, the good news is that this going up a LOT faster than most expected with construction starting in the fall of 2015. But ONLY 61 stories? Even with super high floors I can't see how this tower breaks beyond 1,300 ft, 1,400 ft even WITH a spire. It better be a great design, but it was primed to pop more.... certainly not 2,000 ft or more like some wanted which wasn't going to happen but surely 1,600-1,800 ft with a spire. I would like to hear more about the plans, whether the 61 is the final floor count decided on or preliminary, and how high are the floor plates.
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If 61 is the final floor count then at 400m the average floor heights would be roughly 6.5m, even at 300m, theyd have to average at 4.9m which is still very high!
This would need a mega crown/spire to reach the 400m mark

And indeed Citybooster, when this tower was first announced i was expecting this to start around the 2018/19 mark! Great news in that regard! Aslong as the design is great, what more could we ask for?
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