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Old July 10th, 2014, 01:19 PM   #781
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Old July 10th, 2014, 02:43 PM   #782
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Old July 10th, 2014, 04:26 PM   #783
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after the surprise of thé nordstrom tower i hope that hudson spire goes same as this tower
i hope to sée this one exceed 2000 ft height!!
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Old July 10th, 2014, 05:04 PM   #784
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That's not going to happen. I think that it will be between 365 and 440m.
i am not agree with you because the future will say for us what will happen!!
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Old July 11th, 2014, 06:32 PM   #785
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On one hand, this is the Hudson Yards. We have so many tall towers this is literally the city inside a city. (I'm not misusing the word "literally"; the Hudson Yards alone can compete with some cities worldwide.)

Of course we need something to stand out, but I think the Hudson Yards North Tower is enough. (That's not cancelled, is it? I haven't heard much from it recently.) but Tower E could make it lose it's dominance.

On the other hand, this is New York. 1776 feet is the universal speed limit in the city (just like C, the speed of light, is the universal speed limit in the universe.) to prove it, the Nordstrom Tower is 1775 feet. (I would have preferred for it to be 1771 feet or 540 meters, because then it would be shorter to the rest of the world, who uses the metric system). Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if this became 1775 or 1774 feet or even 1770 or 1700~ feet because of One World Trade.

But if this became taller than One WTC, it would encourage other developers to also build higher by breaking the "NY building barrier". And if it was taller, I would want it to become over 2000 feet, so we can compete with Asian and Middle Eastern cities. And this, along with Chicago Spire, can pave the road for future development in America. And I'd love something like the Nordstrom surprise.

But I don't think we're ready for this. I think we should let the World Trade Center have it's glory for at least 10 years, because it has so much sentimental value, considering the rebuilding and the symbolism and whatnot. I think that's more important than racing for world's tallest, for now.

And our buildings are good enough. Nordstrom Tower is going to surpass the pinnacle of Empire State and roof of Willis, making it the most dominant building in America. (I judge buildings' dominance based on their roof height. For example, even though One World Trade is officially 1776 feet, it would still look tiny in Shanghai because the spire is so thin compared to the body.)
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Old July 11th, 2014, 09:38 PM   #786
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Ok let's get this straight, the world trade center would still look very large in shanghai. It would be the third tallest roof and second tallest pinnacle, and that is only to the shanghai tower witch is the second tallest in the world. being the second/third tallest in a huge city is very impressive.
That said I don't think you have to much to worry about because yimby said that the Nordstrom would not keep its title for very long. Meaning that there is another building planned in NYC to become taller than 1,775 feet. And I don't think that they (shvo) will tie the WTC. As for this I don't think it will go over 1,400 feet. Especially after the floor figure.
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Old July 11th, 2014, 11:31 PM   #787
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Oh, sorry, I meant clustered with the Lujuazi (I have no idea how to spell it) trio. I saw a photoshop of One World Trade Center with its spire lit up.

And I agree that this tower won't go taller than 1400 feet. One57 is 75 floors. It would actually be a stretch to have 1400 foot roof, but with spire that's easy. And there's still One Vanderbilt.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 12:07 AM   #788
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Maybe 61 is just the number of office floors and maybe it isn't final

Me being really optimistic.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 03:45 AM   #789
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Maybe 61 is just the number of mechanical floors and it'll be 10,000ft high
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Old July 12th, 2014, 04:30 AM   #790
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Maybe 61 is just the number of mechanical floors and it'll be 10,000ft high
You know what I bet you're right.

Looks like NYC will see a 10k footer!
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Old July 14th, 2014, 08:30 AM   #791
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Vote Planned on new Hudson Yards Tower

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...on-yards-tower

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The New York City Industrial Development Agency is poised to vote later this month on construction of a new tower within the vast Hudson Yards development project that would grant the property owner $170 million in tax breaks in exchange for multi-million-dollar contribution to expanding the Number 7 train and making other infrastucture improvements, city documents show.
The developer also would be required to pay workers a "living wage."
The I.D.A. has sheduled a public hearing for July 17, followed by a vote on July 22, on a $3.2 billion, 2.6 million-square-foot office and retail tower that would be built by the developer Tishman Speyer at Hudson Yards on Manhattan's west side.
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The E.D.C. spokeswoman said Tishman Speyer would be required to comply with the city's living-wage law, which previously exempted a portion of the Hudson Yards project when it was passed in 2012 over the objection of former mayor Michael Bloomberg.
That means Tishman's workers would be paid $10.30 an hour plus benefits, or $11.90 an hour without benefits, according to the latest figures on the living-wage rate, which has increased since the bill was passed.
The spokeswoman said Tishman's project is separate from the Hudson Yards development being spearheaded by the Related Companies in that the living-wage exemption would not extend to this tower.
maybe a height figure will come out of that public hearing on the 17th. Minimum wage is 8$ for NYS, for those wondering reading the article.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 04:03 PM   #792
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It's criminal that they consider $11.90/hr w/o benefits a living wage. That pretty much guarantees that you'll be living in the ghetto (if you're in NYC, at least).

I wonder if that "multi-million-dollar contribution" would just go to the MTA coffers to offset their expenses, or if perhaps it would be put toward the cancelled station at 10th and 41st... not likely.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 04:49 PM   #793
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It's criminal that they consider $11.90/hr w/o benefits a living wage. That pretty much guarantees that you'll be living in the ghetto (if you're in NYC, at least).

I wonder if that "multi-million-dollar contribution" would just go to the MTA coffers to offset their expenses, or if perhaps it would be put toward the cancelled station at 10th and 41st... not likely.
Yeah median rents at pretty much any neighborhood in the city is more than a months wages at 11.90 an hour
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Old July 15th, 2014, 02:00 PM   #794
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Not really. Most apartments in NYC are rent-regulated.
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Old July 15th, 2014, 05:11 PM   #795
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If by most you mean less than half (link), then sure. On top of that, vacancy in rent-stabilized units is pretty much nil. For those that do exist, the scrutiny and competition are so intense that only the richest applicants are accepted. So basically, if you want a rent-regulated apartment, you better already have it. If you've come any time in the last 10 years, it's market rate for your ass.

Do you even know anybody who lives here??
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Old July 15th, 2014, 05:34 PM   #796
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Before the Hudson Spire is built, the developer should be required to build 15-20 middle to low income housing units elsewhere in the city. Same with the Nordstrom Tower group and Related Companies and Brookfield.
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Before the Hudson Spire is built, the developer should be required to build 15-20 middle to low income housing units elsewhere in the city. Same with the Nordstrom Tower group and Related Companies and Brookfield.
Why?? The Spire is a commercial office tower! They are not creating any housing with it. Even if they incorporate housing they don't because this project is fully assembled and as of right with rights to add a small % of residential to this site if they so choose. This is why you select an As-of-right development site.

If TS is requesting for a zoning change to make the tower more residential than required then that could certainly be possible is my guess.
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Old July 15th, 2014, 11:47 PM   #798
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Not really. Most apartments in NYC are rent-regulated.
Well you're just wrong.

$11.90 * 40 hrs = $476 per wk
$476 * 52 wks = $24,752 per yr
$24,752 / 12 months = $2,062.67 per month before taxes

Here are the median rents for a one bedroom in NYC neighborhoods... Living wage?



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What's with the Garment District? Always thought that area was kind of dumpy. UES is a bargain!
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I hear Brownsville is great in the summer.
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