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Old November 18th, 2014, 05:51 PM   #881
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Well, the ESB was roughly one sixth taller than any other building at the time. Even discounting the design if the current tallest planned tower is around 1500ft. to the roof, than a comparable icon that is one sixth taller than that would be around 1750ft. to the roof. Of course, I know that there is a lot more to consider than just height, but a 1750ft. roof with an excellent design wouldn't be anything to complain about.
I agree. The main problem IMHO is not the height but lack of genuinely originality and ideas in design. Out of everything that is getting built in NYC and there are a lot of towers, only couple show some promise of truly great design. The rest... are OK, but not nothing more. It is surprising given the fact that there are truly good amount of space and zoning to build something spectacular. IN design and in height. I wonder when NYC will get out of this psychological prison of 1776 ft with the spire. Why not 2000 ft to the roof??? If not in NYC then where?
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 06:51 PM   #882
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Is this definitely shortened to 300+ ?
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 07:53 PM   #883
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 10:31 PM   #884
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I agree. The main problem IMHO is not the height but lack of genuinely originality and ideas in design. Out of everything that is getting built in NYC and there are a lot of towers, only couple show some promise of truly great design. The rest... are OK, but not nothing more. It is surprising given the fact that there are truly good amount of space and zoning to build something spectacular. IN design and in height. I wonder when NYC will get out of this psychological prison of 1776 ft with the spire. Why not 2000 ft to the roof??? If not in NYC then where?
I agree, and a 2000ft. roof would be tremendous for NYC. A good percentage of the new towers have very conservative designs that don't really show a lot of architectural ingenuity. I would love to see a building around 2000ft. to to the roof, and topped with a nice a spire that puts up an additionally 200-300ft. I know that is just wishful thinking, but really why not? The city could easily handle it. If any city could handle a 2000+ft. building, NYC is it.
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 10:54 PM   #885
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This will likely be around 1,250 to 1,350. It won't be 2,000.
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 11:40 PM   #886
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at 61 floors, the only way I can see this exceeding 1300' is with a spire.
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Old November 23rd, 2014, 01:04 AM   #887
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Isn't 1 Vanderbilt about 65 floors? Also, I doubt that the number of floors is set in stone.
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I believe 67 floors, and talking about 1,414 ft to the roof the floors will be super generously high plated.... and another hundred or so feet for the Spire to take it to the current projected height of 1,514 ft. So it is way too early and I agree the 61 stories isn't set in stone. Nor would the lower number of floor numbers mean a remarkably shorter building.... I still expect it will have something decorative at top and somehow it will be if not 1,800 ft as first advertised, in the 1,500 ft range at least. I think Tishman-Speyer wants it to stand out in quality and architecture even if the height isn't gargantuan as it may have been(and who knows may yet still be)?
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What's 1400ft in meters ? approximately 400 not?
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What's 1400ft in meters ? approximately 400 not?
400 meters is approximately 1313ft. 427 meters is 1400ft.
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All a lot of speculation. It makes little sense to build floor heights of 400/60 = 6.5 meter. Probably won't happen.
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http://nypost.com/2014/12/23/mighty-...amesake-tower/

"....Tishman Speyer Properties purchased the Hudson Yards building, which will be torn down in 2015 to make way for a gigantic super-tall 2.55 million-square-foot building with an estimated cost of $3.29 billion."
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Well, I'm quite curious as to how this will turn out. They have the square-footage and the money. My guess is 1,400ft roof + 200ft spire = 1,600ft total. Could be a very nice supertall, but still not a signature tower [would need more height fot that].

Btw I'd disregard the low floor count for now (just take a look at 1 Vanderbilt and 30 HY...). I'm sure it will change in due time.
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What's 1400ft in meters ? approximately 400 not?
for the future reference: multiply the number you got in ft to 0.3 and you will get meters
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for the future reference: multiply the number you got in ft to 0.3 and you will get meters
Or close to it, anyway. The actual conversion is 0.3048 meters = 1 foot. 1400 feet is 426.72 meters exactly.
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anyway, 2.55 million-square-foot is just huge.
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I agree. I think that a lot of the square footage will be occupied by a huge retail podium.
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Or close to it, anyway. The actual conversion is 0.3048 meters = 1 foot. 1400 feet is 426.72 meters exactly.
Those Americans and their funny measurement systems.
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