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Old December 31st, 2014, 06:59 AM   #921
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As in OH YEAH?
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Old December 31st, 2014, 08:00 AM   #922
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Wouldn't it be fun to get a contemporary Deco beast in Midtown?

Yea I would be looking fwd to that. A true contemporary deco beast of a tower would be amazing! Although for me I'm not sure I would want one in the a Hudson Yards.
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Old December 31st, 2014, 08:02 AM   #923
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Surprise surprise! At least I was..

Nordstrom's site has a bigger lot for development compared to the Spire.

Hudson Spire has more than double the size than the Nordstrom for developmental sq footage.

Tale of the tape:

Nordstrom Tower:


A) Lot area size = 90,915 sq. ft.
B) Development sq. ft. = 1.2m sq. ft.

Proposed roof height - 1,550'
Proposed pinnacle height - 1775'

Hudson Spire:


A) Lot area size = 67,453 sq. ft.
B) Development sq. ft. = 2.8m sq ft.

Proposed roof height - tbd
Proposed pinnacle height - tbd

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According to dob application for the Nordstrom the lot coverage is 75% of the 90,915 sq ft. Maybe the Spire's lot coverage would be a little higher but this could give a good indication how tall this spire can be = pretty dang tall.

Honestly, I'm very excited about the prospects of this tower. I totally agree with happy face post above about Tishman.

I believe Tishman when they say it's going to be iconic/trophy tower most especially with a $3b plus price tag. Let ur imaginations run wild peeps!

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Old December 31st, 2014, 08:13 AM   #924
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Hmm this is getting pretty interesting!
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Old December 31st, 2014, 04:27 PM   #925
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As in stern?
Maybe! What was the last office tower designed by Stern anyway?
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Old December 31st, 2014, 04:33 PM   #926
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I think it was Comcast in Philly.
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Old December 31st, 2014, 06:16 PM   #927
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That is a nice tower imo.
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Old December 31st, 2014, 06:22 PM   #928
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I agree. Is Stern associated with this project ?
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Old December 31st, 2014, 06:29 PM   #929
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With the Spire? I don't think they named an architect yet.
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Old December 31st, 2014, 07:40 PM   #930
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Question about the maximum square footage...reading that it looks like 2.225 million square feet, not 2.8 mil... am I reading it wrong?
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Old December 31st, 2014, 08:23 PM   #931
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No, you read it right! However, what it doesn't account for is the additional FAR that will be purchased via the District Improvement Bonus (DIB) to reach the total of 2.8msf.

The max zsf for the site 706B is indeed 2.26 msf but with the DIB program you can purchase additional FAR to go above and beyond.

The max allowable for this site through the DIB program is additional 540k sf, therefore that is how the 2.8 msf figure would be reached.

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Old December 31st, 2014, 08:27 PM   #932
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Related had gotten Stern for a project in the area, so it might be a possibility.

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Old December 31st, 2014, 08:40 PM   #933
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Originally for phase 2, supposedly Stern will develop 2 towers. Of course the designs are subject to change but I believe in the rendering above those are the 2 sites that he had designed.

The one with 2 towers and the school in the middle as one project and the 2nd project would be that modern glassy tower behind it with the setbacks..
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Old December 31st, 2014, 08:58 PM   #934
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It would be interesting for Stern to design the Spire as well.

Literally, his office is located just right across the street from the Spire and smack right in the middle of the HY mega development.



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Old December 31st, 2014, 10:16 PM   #935
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I hope we could get a skyscraper of at least 2K feet
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Old December 31st, 2014, 10:35 PM   #936
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Good luck with that
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Old December 31st, 2014, 11:14 PM   #937
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I REALLY like those proposed Stern towers... hopefully he will be able to build something like those. The glassy one is particularly interesting.... he's known for his limestone and stone based towers and the two designed here are classic, strong presentations of quintessential Stern but the setbacks on the glass towers are gorgeous.... love it and hope in the next phase Related okays his concepts with minimal tinkering ..though lol we all have seen how Related loves to tinker with Phase 1, particularly the major revisions in the residential towers!

Also, thanks V_G on the clarification regarding additional rights being allowed to be purchased that does bring the total scope of the tower to a whopping 2.8 mil square feet!
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Old January 15th, 2015, 12:48 PM   #938
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Apparently, Tishman will demolish the existing structures this year,

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December 23, 2014 | 11:25pm

Renowned artist and collector Hunt Slonem is moving from one pioneering location to another.
This time he will be moving his antiques, flea-market finds, tropical birds, art studio and offices to a sun-filled 30,623 square feet in Sunset Park.
Slonem will have the entire sixth floor and part of the second floor at 14 53rd St., which is the tallest building in the low-rise warehouse area. On this street also known as Whale Square, the former Whale Oil Building sits between First Avenue and the waterfront.
He will be moving from the entire third floor of 22,500 square feet at 509 W. 34th St. in Hudson Yards, which is now a development site.
We have followed Slonem’s whimsical art and moves through the years as he previously had workspaces at 545 W. 45th St., 303 W. 10th St. and the Starrett-Lehigh Building.
“It’s more of a jaw-dropper than that,” Slonem said, describing the new space, multiple windows and water views. “It’s a new frontier and I’m looking forward to it.”
A cousin to Tama Janowitz and brother to writer James Slonim, he is now celebrating the release of his new book, “When Art Meets Design.”
The tome shows off the décor in his various homes, including two lakeside mansions in Louisiana that pair vintage furniture with contemporary art and antiques and showcase his unique collection for Lee Jofa.
Carri Lyon of Cushman & Wakefield represented Slonem in the 15-year deal with SL Realty, which coincidently also owns the similar looking Starrett-Lehigh Building. SL Realty was represented in-house by Peter Thorsen. Asking rents in the building, which is in the midst of upgrading tenancies, range from the mid-teens to low $20s per foot.
“Hunt’s new space is one of the most beautiful loft spaces I’ve ever seen, with very high ceilings, windows on four sides looking over the water and resembles a cathedral with its two rows of columns,” said Lyon of the fifth space she has found for the artist.
Tishman Speyer Properties purchased the Hudson Yards building, which will be torn down in 2015 to make way for a gigantic super-tall 2.55 million-square-foot building with an estimated cost of $3.29 billion.
A development team led by Jonathan Stein’s Diversified Realty Advisors and California-based SunCal completed the purchase of the former General Motors plant site in Sleepy Hollow on Tuesday.
The first phase of the 1,177-unit, 170,000 square-foot commercial, retail and hotel development known as Lighthouse Landing will consist of some condos, townhomes and a rental building, but site approval and infrastructure work could take another year.
Pre-planning has been ongoing since the group contracted to buy the roughly 70 acres on the west and south portions of the site last year. The purchase price and contributions to Sleepy Hollow will total just over $50 million, sources said. The parties could not be reached or declined comment.
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Old January 15th, 2015, 11:18 PM   #939
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gigantic supertall eh? I like
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